Harar under Siege like its the middle ages

[Fang4]

Only when we are united can we stop them from encroaching on our lands if we don’t we’ll be like the hararis.

 

[La Xawla]

Dhulbahante are fucking nothing BTEC darood . They are isaaq people's men. Do you know how many dhulbahante chicks i know sucking HJ dick happily

Even in London

 

[La Xawla]

Only when we are united can we stop them from encroaching on our lands if we don’t we’ll be like the hararis.

The time old tactic of divide and conquer. It’s funny how easy Somalis fall for it

 

[Factz]

You're really a deranged kid aren't you?! The original text of Futuh Al Habesha is in Arabic which is the one I posted. That's the screenshot I took from the book itself and it's not Some random picture genius.
Read the Original Arabic version of the book page 13/130 and it clearly reveals how Habar Magaadle refused to pay Zakat and how they started campaign of pillaging and looting other Muslim until Ahmed Gurey subjugated and forced them into submission.

You're clearly a dullard dolt if you didn't understand me.

What do you mean original? Translation doesn't mean shit. I've read the English version and it doesn't state that so I call that a bullshit and other bullshit you stated was also bullshit because you didn't provide no reference.

Remember I was positive in this thread until you derailed this thread so I'm here to correct your bullshit and lies.

 

[.279]

Noone even knows gureys ethnicity let alone clan.

Lots of retards here, chief.

 

[La Xawla]

Noone even knows gureys ethnicity let alone clan.

Lots of retards here, chief.

Gotta make everything bout qabiil

 

[Karim]

You're clearly a dullard dolt if you didn't understand me.

What do you mean original? Translation doesn't mean shit. I've read the English version and it doesn't state that so I call that a bullshit and other bullshit you stated was also bullshit because you didn't provide no reference.

Remember I was positive in this thread until you derailed this thread so I'm here to correct your bullshit and lies.

"Translation doesn't mean shit" lol we're arguing with these kids who don't even know the original language of the book. The book was written in Arabic and the author is a Arabic speaking Muslim and I've got the original book in my PC in Arabic.
Can you even read Arabic horta?!!

 

[Factz]

"Translation doesn't mean shit" lol we're arguing with these kids who don't even know the original language of the book. The book was written in Arabic and the author is a Arabic speaking Muslim and I've got the original book in my PC in Arabic.
Can you even read Arabic horta?!!

You showing me a picture doesn't prove anything. I need a link and reference. The original Futuh Al-Habasha: The Conquest of Abyssinia was written in the 16th century and it never states Habar Magaadle being anything bad except being part of Adal Sultanate and the first army to join Ahmed Gurey. That is a historical fact.

Horta why are you poisoning this thread with your bullshit for? No one here dissed any clan except your cuqdad cancer that derailed this positive thread.

 

[Disappointed]

It's time to end the debate on the Imam. He was a black man.

 

[government]

"Translation doesn't mean shit" lol we're arguing with these kids who don't even know the original language of the book. The book was written in Arabic and the author is a Arabic speaking Muslim and I've got the original book in my PC in Arabic.
Can you even read Arabic horta?!!

It's quite sad you literally gave him a screenshot of the book and the neef will refuse to believe it kulha a link

 

[embarassing]

Ah


Axmed Gurey was not Mursal Karanle he was Baalow Seexawle Karanle as were the Garaads of Hobat.
There are three main clans of Karanle, Waadeerle (father of Mursal), Seexawle and Gidir Karanle. Gidir is the mothers clan of the Habar Gidir her name was Raaray.

Only Murusade travelled to Somalia all the other Karanle clans still live near Harar. Most Karanle these days have been adopted into Oromo as discussed upthread, there are a lot more Karanle than people think, a big percentage of Hararghe "Oromo" are Karanle.

Can you share the evidence that lead you to believe he was Sexawle Karanle?

 

[shabellegal]

the last time they tried to invade all the way into the Shebelle region when we were fighting off colonial powers. AUN Sheikh Barsane fended our lands and send those beasts back to Ogaden

Don’t mind the “Amhara” part because that’s the generals we all know who the foot soldiers are.

Oromos have no ID. For years they pretended to be Somali in the West, understand our language and Amhara, and play both sides. Wallahi they are sleeper agents.

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[Karim]

It's quite sad you literally gave him a screenshot of the book and the neef will refuse to believe it kulha a link

Bro, Wlhi bilaah I'm baffled!! KKK I'm arguing with a retarded fucker with an IQ of 40 lol.

 

[government]

Bro, Wlhi bilaah I'm baffled!! KKK I'm arguing with a retarded fucker with an IQ of 40 lol.

Just give up walahi you can never win an argument with him you should the guy the original book quote and he is saying give me a link

 

[La Xawla]

This shit still going

How about he was Oromo?

 

[James Dahl]

Ahmed Gurey's full name is Ahmed Ibrahim Maxamed. His cousin is Garaad Abuun, which the Futuh also mentions as his cousin. Garaad Abuun and the Hobat Garaads are descended from Garaad Maxiiqe of Hobat, who are Karanle.

 

[Karim]

You showing me a picture doesn't prove anything. I need a link and reference. The original Futuh Al-Habasha: The Conquest of Abyssinia was written in the 16th century and it never states Habar Magaadle being anything bad except being part of Adal Sultanate and the first army to join Ahmed Gurey. That is a historical fact.

Here's the PDF link of the book in Arabic. Download it and read page 13/130.
https://archive.org/details/bahjatalzaman
If you can't read Arabic don't mention my name again. And enjoy rating my posts as "Qashin" you emotional freak.

 

[Karim]

Ahmed Gurey's full name is Ahmed Ibrahim Maxamed. His cousin is Garaad Abuun, which the Futuh also mentions as his cousin. Garaad Abuun and the Hobat Garaads are descended from Garaad Maxiiqe of Hobat, who are Karanle.

Source?!!

 

[La Xawla]

Ahmed Gurey's full name is Ahmed Ibrahim Maxamed. His cousin is Garaad Abuun, which the Futuh also mentions as his cousin. Garaad Abuun and the Hobat Garaads are descended from Garaad Maxiiqe of Hobat, who are Karanle.

Is this the guy who made abtirsi.com?

 

[Factz]

Bro, Wlhi bilaah I'm baffled!! KKK I'm arguing with a retarded fucker with an IQ of 40 lol.

Just give up walahi you can never win an argument with him you should the guy the original book quote and he is saying give me a link

Posting a picture doesn't mean anything. Both of you retards aren't even on the main point after I debunked that.

Like I said. I read The original Futuh Al-Habasha: The Conquest of Abyssinia and it never stated such a thing. Only mentions of Habar Magaadle was they were part of Adal Sultanate and first army to join Ahmed Gurey.

@Karim I said link, you can easily direct me that page. There is no need for download so you lied again. Just show me a reference.

You bastards like to derail threads so if you going to play games then I have multiple terrible sources about Darood and put this thread into clan section since y'all ruined it. I mean I have sources that the ancestor of Darood was an Oromo slave? You don't see me posting that shit because I don't derail positive threads unlike you simpleton imbeciles.

Some sources say you guys are originally Habesha (Harla).

Some sources say Darood was a bastard that sought refuge in a Dir dominated territory.

I can go on and on.