Harar under Siege like its the middle ages

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The Gdabursi and ciise migration I'd relatively new. If they did so a 100 years before they'd be Oromo

Ciise have always bordered Oromos. Samw with Gadabursi for over 200 years. Even Richard Burton mentions that Ciise and Gadabursi were living/trading and shared territory with the Noole Gallas. So you are incorrect.
 
@Karim shows @Factz the original book and screenshot and tells him where to download it and what page it was on
@Factz THis Iz nOt tHe oRigInaL BooK thE EnglISh TranStlation is Da moSt authNtic
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@Karim shows @Factz the original book and screenshot and tells him where to download it and what page it was on
@Factz THis Iz nOt tHe oRigInaL BooK thE EnglISh TranStlation is Da moSt authNtic View attachment 49453

Actually all of the Arabic that exists today is copied off a poor manuscript. If you want the real one go to either Harar or Gujarat India.

So all of the Arabic that's being posted here is nonsensical. @Factz is right.
 
Ciise have always bordered Oromos. Samw with Gadabursi for over 200 years. Even Richard Burton mentions that Ciise and Gadabursi were living/trading and shared territory with the Noole Gallas. So you are incorrect.
They emigrated just a bit before the gaal Burton came. Plus other dir like the gurgura have become oromized. If the gadabursi and ciise had emigrated earlier I'd say the same would have happened
 
They emigrated just a bit before the gaal Burton came. Plus other dir like the gurgura have become oromized. If the gadabursi and ciise had emigrated earlier I'd say the same would have happened

I respectfully disagree on this point. Furthermore, Gurgura are bilingual, they can and do speak Oromo simply due to Geography just the way me and you speak English. But they identify as a Somali Dir clan.

Gurgura is the reason why Dire Dawa is a federal state and not part of Oromia or Kilil 4. Ciise and Gurgura combined made the Oromos a minority which means Dire Dawa is still a pre-dominantly Somali city.
 
Great town of Amud, Adal 10km east of Borama.


The old section of Amud spans 25 acres (100,000 m2) and contains hundreds of ancient ruins of multi-roomed courtyardhouses, stone walls, complex mosques, and other archaeological remains, including intricate colored glass bracelets and Chinese ceramics.

According to Sonia Mary Cole, the town features 250 to 300 houses and an ancient temple. The temple was constructed of carefully dressed stone, and was later transformed into a mosque. It also features pottery lamps. Altogether, the building techniques, among other factors, point to a close association with Aksumite archaeological sites from the 2nd to 5th centuries CE.

Amud is home to several historic pilgrimagesites belonging to celebrated Somali Saints, the most prominent being Saint Sau, Saint Amud and Saint Sharlagamadi. During his research in the area, the historian G.W.B. Huntingford noticed that whenever a historic site had the prefix Aw in its name (such as the ruins of Aw Barre), it denoted the final resting place of a local Saint.[4] The patron Saint Amud is buried in the vicinity of the ancient town.

The Amoud University in Borama is named after the archaeological site.


Note: Even the Aksumites were in Amud.
 

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But you always attack your own folks. Its like your waiting for any opportunity to attack @Factz . What do you have against him?

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He's arrogant and can never admit defeat in an argument. The kid claims that he is always right and everyone else is stupid, ignorant, a dolt, etc but in reality he doesn't know much of anything. Also anyone can claim a clan but he doesn't know much about my clan which he claims on here aside from what he read on wiki. I don't consider him as one of my folks. Like I said earlier, the only legit and active JB users on here are the 4 users I mentioned earlier. Anyone else is not part of our squad.

If there is one thing I hate its someome who claims to be knowledgeable in everything and can never admit when they are wrong.

If you think I'm being unfair in targetting him, I guarantee you he will reply to this post with insults and personal attacks and won't even refute anything I'm saying with actual evidence but instead prove my point about him further.
 
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I respectfully disagree on this point. Furthermore, Gurgura are bilingual, they can and do speak Oromo simply due to Geography just the way me and you speak English. But they identify as a Somali Dir clan.

Gurgura is the reason why Dire Dawa is a federal state and not part of Oromia or Kilil 4. Ciise and Gurgura combined made the Oromos a minority which means Dire Dawa is still a pre-dominantly Somali city.
Most gurgura speak Oromo hence why oromos are so keen to claim them. Only some elders know Somali and some of those who live closer to the Somali side. A lot of them started to identify as Oromo after 19991
 
He's arrogant and can never admit defeat in an argument. The kid claims that he is always right and everyone else is stupid, ignorant, a dolt, etc but in reality he doesn't know much of anything. Also anyone can claim a clan but he doesn't know much about my clan which he claims on here aside from what he read on wiki. I don't consider him as one of my folks.

If there is one thing I hate its someome who claims to be knowledgeable in everything and can never admit when they are wrong.

If you think I'm being unfair in targetting him, I guarantee you he will reply to this post with insults and personal attacks and won't even refute anything I'm saying with actual evidence but instead prove my point about him further.

For the life of me, are you guys still arguing?
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Walee Beesha sade mareexan produced self made warriors from the founder of walashma dynasty abadir musa warwajele (fiqi umar walashma)
Ahmed gurey the conqueror his nephew amir nur ibn mujahid, sayid Muhammads hero and inspiration his maternal grandfather Sade mogan a great warrior chief, siad barre, ali mataan hashi 1 of the first somali fighter pilots.
What happened to farmaajo tho it remains to be a mystery
 
Ahmed Gurey's full name is Ahmed Ibrahim Maxamed. His cousin is Garaad Abuun, which the Futuh also mentions as his cousin. Garaad Abuun and the Hobat Garaads are descended from Garaad Maxiiqe of Hobat, who are Karanle.

Fadlan provide your sources!
 
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