Happy 21kii October (Kacaan)

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  1. Sheikh

    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Every clan has their August 1st, May 18th, ONLF day etc. This is a MX international holiday. Told my employers that I can't come to work today bc it was a cultural holiday and they let me off the hook kkk. So back the plot today is a very special day to honor a great man Major General Jaalle Mohamed Siad Barre.
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    Jaalle MSB saved us from uncertainty and from a earlier civil war by rescuing Somalia and turning it to the Switzerland of Africa and gave us the glorious Kacaan of 21 yrs of law of order and brought and implemented Civilization and made qabil taboo to discuss and gave us along his staff the standard Somali language we speak today. He treated Bantus and Cadcads as equals to other Ethnic Somalis. He was a Wadani that had a vision and accomplished it. He tamed these outta control *******s in prior were in zoos. He brought the best out of Somalia. There are many accomplishments to count he achieved Mash'Allah. His heroic legacy is living on forever nolow Siyaad nolow the Lion of Africa the Lion son of Sade landeere :salute:

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    The man was in a Magazine greatest African leader ever.

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    He loved the kids so much by making orphan kids orphanages AUN geesi.

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  2. Dues Ex Machete

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    Salaan Sarre Jaale Ugaas,

    The Lion of Africa Jaale Mohamed Siyaad Barre was a giant of his time and with out a doubt history will always look back at him in this light. The many advancements he brought in such a short amount of time had set a precedent for Sub-Saharan countries and allowed us to help many other nations escape the yoke of colonialism. Among rapid increases in literacy and education, our military was one of the most advanced in the continent.

    The multitude of events that have come to pass since the end of his term; have done nothing but vindicate him of all undue criticisms and highlight all of his efforts in bringing pride to the Somali name were unforgettable.
     
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  3. Sheikh

    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Saax ina adeer. MSB was always before his time and knew the West and world globally very well plus like you said hated colonialism and freed many sub-Saharan countries from gumasysi he was gumaysidiid. Many African/Middle Eastern leaders looked up to him. He was beyond Somalia he had a vision for Africa countering the West and the world and by freeing them from gumaysi colonialism. The father of Somalia. Free healthcare, free school, free food to families, best military, infrastructure, building ports etc. Truly the best and GOAT politician daacad he was :rejoice:
     
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    Rest in peace to the million isaaq who were ethnically cleansed massacred genocide that took place in hargaysa, burco and berbera massacred by siad barre communist gaal dictatorship



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  5. FBIsomalia

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    Still gedo has no water well.
     
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  6. Sheikh

    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Warya I see what you are tryna do kkk nutcase. I as a MX landeere has nothing but great respect for my Northern brothas the Isaaq. :camby:
     
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  7. Samaalic Era

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    The man did alot of things,especially for Af Somali. However his anti deen stance and his policies towards after 1985 will always define him. Its no different to a man who was pious his whole life but in his last moments, died in disbelief.

    A man will always be judged by his last deeds
     
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  8. Sheikh

    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Do you live in Gedo or JL? Warya worry about the Garowe uprisings instead of sticking your lil nose in places where they don't matter organize your priorities
     
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    Those uprise for government lands that the PL government take it back. We can handle our people without amisom or Ethiopia.

    But here we talking about the achievements of your abo afwenya in gedo. Still no water well.
     
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    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    I respect your take. After all I'm a civil person kkk. Sxb imo the good outweighs the alleged bad. He loved every Somali the same. To me his great deeds define him as a person. His other deeds should be looked upon by Allah. Only Allah knows best. I know this a mixed topic for people but for me and majority of ppl loved him. We had everything. But now we are rebuilding even tho we are in store for good things. But Kacaan was the best
     
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    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Stop derailing warya. Handle your own topics I'll handle my own. MSB still haunts you kkk. Water wells are everywhere in Somalia. I'm not for bickering over petty talk sxb get your stuff sorted out
     
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    I'm here commend on your abo thread. So please let us stick to your afwenya achievement. Now beside water well what he did to his kin in gedo?.
     
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    In the Valley of Death: Somaliland’s Forgotten Genocide



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    Human remains in Somaliland's Valley of Death. Photo courtesy of the Peruvian Forensic Anthropology Team (EPAF) led by Franco Mora. Somaliland, 2018.

    On a hot and humid June afternoon, a group of boys wearing FC Barcelona jerseys kicked around a soccer ball in the Malko-Durduro, a dry seasonal river on the outskirts of Hargeisa, the capital of the breakaway territory of Somaliland. At first glance, the flat, red earth of the riverbed made for a typical improvised pitch in this arid region. But recent heavy rains had exposed what had earned the area the moniker “the Valley of Death.” Around them, human bones protruded from the ground. But these kids had grown up playing soccer surrounded by skeletal remains; they hardly noticed them.

    Between 1987 and 1989, the regime of Somali dictator Siad Barre massacred an estimated 200,000 members of the Isaaq tribe, the largest clan group in the northwest part of Somalia. At the time, some Isaaqs were fighting for independence, and to eliminate the threat, Barre tried to exterminate all of them. Experts now say there are more than 200 mass graves in Somaliland, most of them in the Valley of Death.

    This year marks the 30th anniversary of what is often called the “Hargeisa Holocaust,” when about 90 percent of the city was destroyed and tens of thousands of Isaaqs were killed. Yet there are no major plans to mark the horrors in Somaliland, or anywhere else for that matter. In the past, a few international organizations have recognized the bloodletting. A 2001 UN report investigating the attacks against the Isaaqs concluded that “the crime of genocide was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somalia Government against the Isaaq people of northern Somalia.” But the events have been mostly forgotten; the boys playing soccer did not know the story behind the bones.

    Even in Hargeisa, many people don’t realize the extent of US support during the genocide. No American has ever apologized for what happened in Somaliland; there has been no internationally backed Truth and Reconciliation Commission; and no one has been criminally punished. There is little funding to investigate—let alone prosecute—the perpetrators. And some of the Somali genocidaires now have close ties to the US-backed government in Mogadishu of President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, known as Farmajo.



    COLD WAR PROXY

    The country of Somalia was formed in 1960, when British Somaliland gained its independence from Britain and joined with its much larger neighbor to east and south, Italian Somaliland. Nine years later, General Siad Barre took over in a bloodless coup and steered the young country toward the Soviet Union. Somalia was strategically placed along Africa’s longest coastline, and the Soviets welcomed a new proxy in the Horn of Africa.

    This all changed in 1977 when Barre invaded the Somali-majority Ogaden region of southeastern Ethiopia. Previously Ethiopia had been aligned with the US, but after the Derg military junta seized power in 1974, the Soviets had begun supporting Somalia’s communist neighbor. Forced to choose between allies, the Soviets sided with the Derg junta, and sent arms and military advisers. Cuba’s Fidel Castro provided an additional 13,000 troops, and Ethiopia repelled the Somali army in 1978.

    Livid at the Soviet support for Ethiopia, Barre switched sides, allying himself with the US. In January 1981, former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger visited the presidential palace in Mogadishu, hoping to further strengthen US-Somalia ties. Barre had criticized President Jimmy Carter for not backing his country against the Soviets. But now Kissinger was convincing President Ronald Reagan to view Somalia as a crucial theater for US-Soviet confrontation. A year later, Barre made the trip to Washington, DC, to meet with Reagan in the Oval Office. Grainy footage of the encounter shows Barre asking Reagan for help. “Somalia is not afraid of any other country in the region, but it cannot cope with a superpower like the Soviet Union,” he told Reagan.

    Barre said the United States agreed to help Somalia, because it “is also in its own interest.” In the 1983 budget, Reagan requested $91 million in military and economic assistance for Somalia, plus another $18 million in food aid for refugees. That year Somalia’s entire GDP was less than $750 million.

    Around this time, Paul Manafort, a lobbyist who would become the chairman of Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, took on the Barre government as a client. In 1980 Manafort founded the lobbying company, Black, Manafort and Stone, which had close ties to the Reagan White House and later the George HW Bush administration. Riva Levinson, who worked with Manafort in the 1980s, has said she asked at the time, “Are we sure we want this guy as a client?” Manafort sounded agitated: “We all know Barre is a bad guy, Riva. We just have to make sure he’s our bad guy.”

    Manafort did PR for Barre even as he was massacring the Isaaqs. Levinson said Manafort sent her to Somalia to have Barre sign a contract for $1 million. “Our assignment would then be to clean up Siad Barre’s international reputation, which needed plenty of soap,” she wrote in The Washington Post in 2017.

    With Manafort’s PR work and the country’s anti-Soviet Union alignment, the US was happy to turn a blind eye to Barre’s abuses. By 1988, the US had given his government hundreds of millions dollars of military and economic aid, and Barre had become entirely dependent on US support.



    THE GENOCIDE AND THE US

    Barre had long targeted and discriminated against the Isaaq tribe, and so in 1981 in London, Isaaq dissidents formed the Somali National Movement (SNM) to overthrow Barre’s rule in the north of the country. Barre responded to this insurgency with a ruthless military campaign. In 1988, Amnesty International reported the Barre regime used "widespread arbitrary arrests, ill treatment and summary executions" and torture of those suspected of collaborating with the SNM. They found that those who opposed the Barre regime were gathered, bound, and taken to places like the Valley of Death where they were shot and buried in unmarked graves.

    One of the most brutal parts of the genocidal campaign was the destruction of Hargeisa, the largest city in northern Somalia. In May of 1988, Barre’s regime sent in fighter jets to level the city. The destruction of Hargeisa was so total that it earned the nickname “the Dresden of Africa.” Bombing missions and ground troops attacks killed more than 40,000 people. Burao, the third largest city in Somalia at the time and the second principal city in northern Somalia, was razed. The relentless violence against Isaaq civilians in 1988 resulted in the world’s largest refugee crisis. More than 300,000 refugees fled to Ethiopia, most of them arriving in the small border town of Harta Sheikh in Ethiopia, which became the largest refugee camp from 1988 until it closed in 2004.

    Saad Ali Shire, Somaliland’s current foreign minister, told us, “In 1988, when the government started bombarding Hargeisa and other towns in Somaliland, the Americans were of course friends of the Siad Barre regime … for strategic reasons. … And they gave Siad Barre arms—arms were unloaded in Berbera port—and it was reported by Amnesty International and other human-rights organizations at the time.”

    He paused and then said, “The US was not directly involved in the inhuman treatment of the people of Somaliland, but, like many other allies of the regime then, of course their hand was there.” The US mission to Somalia did not return a request for comment.

    The US knew what was going on and maintained its support. A cable released by Wikileaks from that period and sent by the US embassy in Mogadishu noted: “Many displaced persons (i.e. Isaaqs) would have returned home long ago had they not been deterred from doing so by … government forces.” The cable continued: “Isaaqs, suffering from thirst, hunger, disease, and abominable camp conditions, were demanding to go home.” There was no discussion of cutting support for Barre as the genocide unfolded.

    But as the US ramped up its bombing campaigns in Iraq and the Cold War ended, the US eventually decided to redirect its resources from Barre’s government to the Middle East. Without US support, the government of Somalia collapsed.

    Around that time, on May 18, 1991, the SNM declared the northwest bit of Somalia independent and established the Somaliland Republic. The international community still does not recognize Somaliland as a sovereign country, but it has all the trappings of a nation-state—a Constitution, a president, a currency, and even biometric passports.



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  14. Sheikh

    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Neefyahow he did many things for the Somali Republic and for his ppl he's from especially he jump started the Baardheere dam project and built our Kismayo port in 1986. And built Military bases around our lands etc. What did your abo AY build you sxb
     
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    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    You're not Isaaq sxb you don't represent Isaaq :farmajoyaab:
     
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    I am a wadani I care about all somalis while you only care about the oppressor Siad Barre communist gaal dictator Who commited genocide against millions of isaaq merely cause Siad Barre is from your tribe.
     
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    There should be a museum in Mogadishu to remember the genocide of isaaq people how millions of isaaq were massacred using bombs dropped from planes like Hiroshima and Nagasaki
     
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    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    So now you are wadani? So you care about ppl excluding Cismaan Maxamud? Is that what you are telling me right now? Kkk nice joke :cryinglaughsmiley: I care about all Somalis like my Northern Isaaq brothas, Dblock, Samaroon
     
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    Sheikh Jaalle Ugas ''Comrade Ugas''

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    Only a person like a Isaaq brotha can talk about his clan anyway he wants not you sxb :pachah1:
     
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    I stand with the isaaq people who were massacred like the jews in Germany who were put into concentration camps burned alive rest in peace to the millions of isaaq that lost their lives in the isaaq holocaust
     
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