Hamza Yusuf: From Traditionalist to Reformist/Deformist

Hamzza

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Just curious, where did Daniel Haqiqatjou study Islam?
He may be self-taught or studied in the Mosque, what is certain is the fact that he knows his stuff. You don't need a university degree to be a Sheikh or Islamic scholar, many talibul Ilm people still study in the classical way.
 
Just curious, where did Daniel Haqiqatjou study Islam?

He is not giving religious verdicts but quotes the Quran and Scholars and is exposing liberal agents by presenting what they have said and done themselves. He is doing a great job at it and has alerted many Muslims to these sinister plots. Allahuma Barik.
 

Awdalite

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He may be self-taught or studied in the Mosque, what is certain is the fact that he knows his stuff. You don't need a university degree to be a Sheikh or Islamic scholar, many talibul Ilm people still study in the classical way.

Do you know which Mosque or traditional institute he may have studied in or any established religious scholar (irrespective of Madhab) that has vouched for him?
 

Awdalite

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He is not giving religious verdicts but quotes the Quran and Scholars and is exposing liberal agents by presenting what they have said and done themselves. He is doing a great job at it and has alerted many Muslims to these sinister plots. Allahuma Barik.

He is still speaking on religious issues/matters. It would be good to know if he studied. Is there any established religious scholar that can vouch for him?
 

Hamzza

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Do you know which Mosque or traditional institute he may have studied in or any established religious scholar (irrespective of Madhab) that has vouched for him?
No, I don't know. As I said he knows his stuff so he doesn't need verification from any institution or Scholar. Islamic literature is easier to access nowadays.

He is doing an honorable job(may Allah ﷻ reward him) in exposing the modernist deviants among the Ummah.
 

Hamzza

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He is still speaking on religious issues/matters. It would be good to know if he studied. Is there any established religious scholar that can vouch for him?
Do you think a person who never studied the Deen can challenge scholars and point out their fallacies?
 
He may be self-taught or studied in the Mosque, what is certain is the fact that he knows his stuff. You don't need a university degree to be a Sheikh or Islamic scholar, many talibul Ilm people still study in the classical way.
The other day he was insinuating that Prophet s.a.w of beating Aisha as a way to suggest that women don’t deserve unlimited kindness. It caused a storm and many actual scholars spoke up . What made it disturbing that he used an Islamqa fatwa but cut the rest that made it clear that the Prophet s.a.w never beat Aisha ect and that he did a jester on her that he has done to various male Sahabas when he was iterating something that was very important.

He needs to stop speaking now. Khalaas.
 

Hamzza

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The other day he was insinuating that Prophet s.a.w of beating Aisha as a way to suggest that women don’t deserve unlimited kindness. It caused a storm and many actual scholars spoke up . What made it disturbing that he used an Islamqa fatwa but cut the rest that made it clear that the Prophet s.a.w never beat Aisha ect and that he did a jester on her that he has done to various male Sahabas when he was iterating something that was very important.

He needs to stop speaking now. Khalaas.
His last tweet about Aisha and the prophet ﷺ doesn't indicate lack of knowledge, as you put it, but it shows his selective use of Islamic content to score points without caring about the consequences.

I think he has gone to the extreme in his fight with feminists and now labels every legitimate grievance of Muslim women as either false or exaggerated. I don't like his defense of Andrew Tate either.

I agree with you he needs to stop speaking about women but he should continue his job of exposing the deviants.
 
His last tweet about Aisha and the prophet ﷺ doesn't indicate lack of knowledge, as you put it, but it shows his selective use of Islamic content to score points without caring about the consequences.

I think he has gone to the extreme in his fight with feminists and now labels every legitimate grievance of Muslim women as either false or exaggerated. I don't like his defense of Andrew Tate either.

I agree with you he needs to stop speaking about women but he should continue his job of exposing the deviants.
It depends, a charitable argument would be lack of knowledge, but you’re right he is being selective but he isn’t knowledgeable and he betrays himself on the TL as of late anyways.

He’s getting to a point where himself is becoming a deviant. He’s getting worse and worse and any legitimate criticism against him by even actual learned scholars is mocked by him and he goes as far as calling normal points as simping.

A madina graduate talked about how Islamic masculinity is different to the one that is pushed by Tate stans and the man talked about humbleness, piety ect, what did he call him? A simp.

What is DH’s end goal? It isn’t looking good tbh and he is constantly fighting and arguing and he is just all around lacking in akhlaaq.
 
The other day he was insinuating that Prophet s.a.w of beating Aisha as a way to suggest that women don’t deserve unlimited kindness. It caused a storm and many actual scholars spoke up . What made it disturbing that he used an Islamqa fatwa but cut the rest that made it clear that the Prophet s.a.w never beat Aisha ect and that he did a jester on her that he has done to various male Sahabas when he was iterating something that was very important.

He needs to stop speaking now. Khalaas.
Hamza said what? Link please
 

Bob Roberts and His Dawah Mafia Friends: Their Agenda to Reform Islam​



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Many of you know about how the new “Abrahamic House” that was just opened is a Zionist interfaith project against Islam, pushed by the US and Israel.

But did you know that one of the main promoters of this project, Bob Roberts, is deeply connected to certain celebrity imams?

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First more information on Roberts.

He has a long resume working for thr US State Dept, the UN, and is a WEF fellow. Basically his job is to push religious reform, secularization, liberalization, and Israel normalization through interfaith. Primarily, he targets Muslims.

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Roberts has been a key participant at “peace” and “global faith” forums. The purpose of these forums, which have been held since 2014, is to give religious legitimacy to Zionist normalization and silence pro Palestinian advocacy in the Muslim world.

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A secondary goal is to push “religious freedom” in the Muslim world. What this refers to is secularization.

Laws that are based on Islam violate the “rights of religious minorities.”

This is the stick used by RAND-guided, US-funded campaigns to separate “mosque and state.”

Roberts sells this secularization project to Muslims by claiming he fights against islamophobia in the US. In return, Muslims should push for “religious freedom” for Atheists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc., in the Muslim world, i.e., to secularize.


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Here is Roberts co writing an article about how interfaith is the way to fight hate and violent extremism (CVE).

Note the co-author…


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Central to Roberts’ religious freedom agenda is legalizing blasphemy in the Muslim world.

Islam has severe criminal punishments for blasphemy and apostasy. This serves to protect the Islamic character of Muslim society by keeping the sacred sacrosanct. Bob wants to end this.

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What is Roberts’ connection to Muslims in the West?

He has been the keynote speaker at numerous Muslim national conventions over the years, including ISNA, RIS, and ICNA.

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He has a special connection with Mohamed Magid, a notorious pro-Zionist imam who has an extensive history working with the US gov via CVE initiatives to police his own community. Truly a despicable person.

(We need a separate article for all of Magid’s filthy work)

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Next is Hamza Yusuf, himself a key figure in pushing all the same narratives as Roberts: secularization, CVE, anti Islamic law, etc. More on Yusuf’s role can be read here.


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Alongside Yusuf and Magid is, of course, Bin Bayyah, not a Western figure, but still used by “traditionalists” in the West to normalize these pro-zionist and secularization campaigns.
 
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All these figures converged in a 2018 interfaith event where a Muslim children’s choir performed the Hebrew song “salaam” at the Multi Faith Prayer Service organized by Pastor Bob Roberts. Magid, Yusuf, and Bin Bayyah gave speeches. Watch here (Telegram link).

Another figure close to Roberts: Yasir Qadhi.

Coincidentally, Qadhi has in recent years vocally called for Islamic “reform” and has even spoken against blasphemy laws in Islam and politicsl Islam more broadly.

RELATED: Yasir Qadhi: Cancelled for LGBT or Is He Being Hypocritical?

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Another imam that Roberts has worked with and highly praised as “a man of strong integrity and courage” in recent years: Omar Suleiman.

Roberts tells us to that Suleiman is an “imam to keep your eyes on.”

I wonder why.

RELATED: Reviewing Yaqeen Institute: A Source of Certainty or Doubt?

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