French President Macron: Africa's problem is NOT colonization but women having 7 or 8 babies

[SuldaanGuled]

An increasing population isn't not an indicator that a country/continent is overpopulated if anything it's a combination of different factors that lead to it. Africa is rich in resources and arable land which is more than capable to sustain it's inhabitants and any population growth, if you factor in technology it's becomes easier to sustain this growth in population.

Generally speaking overpopulation is caused by limited resources not enough to sustain the growing population, or by overconsumption. Neither of which apply to the african continent, in fact europe is the most densely populated contitent per square kilometre

The problem with the world population is not that we are too ‘heavy’ for the Earth to carry, the problem with the world population is the impact of human consumption and activity on the environment and resources.

The USA consumes 25% of world resources while its population is under 5%. And the West as a bloc represents less than 15% of the overall world population while consuming over half of world resources and being responsible for 80% of the world climate change factors.

When it comes to carbon dioxide emission (‘carbon footprint’) per person on the global scale, one person in the US emits about 20 tons every year, one person in the European Union emits 11 tons, one person in China emit three tons, and one person in the sub-Saharan Africa emits a maximum of 300 kilograms. Which means the African carbon impact is 66 times less than American, and 36 times less than European.

Put simply, the impact of a single American on the environment and his role in furthering the global warming effect is equivalent to that of almost 7,000 Africans. A single European threatens the environment with the ‘force’ of 4,000 Africans.

The same goes for the consumption of vital resources like water, meat, etc. For example, the US, with a population around 300 million people, consume as much water per person as China or India which each have above one billion inhabitants. EU countries follow similar patterns.

The whole African continent’s population is less than China’s alone, and a totalGDP the size of a small country like France (France’s 2013 GDP was 2.806 trillion USD vs Africa’s 2.6 trillion in 2013) which is five times smaller than Congo.

Looking from that perspective, you can now see why it is convenient for some people to throw dubious numbers out there: attacking poor Africans is such a harmless exercise.

The debate about the world overpopulation should not be about headcount, but about a single individual’s impact on the environment, and it is necessary to recalculate the ‘overpopulation factor’ based on those parameters.

The world is overpopulated, let’s have less rich people should be the real agenda.

There are too many Americans, too many Europeans, too many Australians, too many Japanese, too many Singaporeans, and so on, because they are the people impacting our common planet in the worst way. Only, concerning Africa, we are talking about population reduction strategies funded by Western NGOs and governments.

Is it because Africa does not have resources to feed two billion people? No. It is because other nations want those resources for their own people.

If you live in Africa, and those Western overpopulation experts come to spread their dubious propaganda, ask them some tough questions and take them as the new Christopher Columbus. I hope you won’t bite on this new covert war on the poor and another distraction from the real culprits.

Finally, let me say this to those who are conceiving the African continent to be, look, and consume like Europe and America: “You are going in the wrong direction. The future requires a different model.”

http://siliconafrica.com/the-myth-of-africa-overpopulation/

 

[SuldaanGuled]

This would have been a fair criticism if it was not coming from a French president. The french are infuriating when it comes to their attitude toward Africa and Africans

I mean read this article detailing how the french STILL benefit from colonization. What a sanctimonious A**hole

http://siliconafrica.com/france-colonial-tax/

The old "you are intellectual challenged " argument to explain why africans find themselves in their past, present and future predicaments.

Whatever sympathy they express know it's done for their own agendas.

 

[Yonis]

People who think overpopulation in africa is not a problem are contributing to the problem of poverty

 

[DR OSMAN]

Africa predicament is partly economical regarding why they have so much kids. They are trying to add more people because they believe it's better insurance to survive if you have larger family, you have more hands that can work then a smaller family. But why Africa isn't progressing is totally colonial and anyone who denies that is blind. When you carve our borders and add people together into a state who never shared a state nor are culturally similar, what sort of system will they agree on? they all have different ideas of how a govt should be run based on how their ancestors used to run their tribes. It just leads to a clash so the europeans thought carve our the borders and leave behind your system and brainwash them to all buy it. But tradition dies hard and that's why you see their democracies not working cause it doesn't represent their culture. Same thing happened to Somalia but the only difference about Somalia is, they do share a culture a nomadic one which they can base their system on, where-as other african countries don't share anything in common so their nothing they can come to common ground on. It's like adding france with england and then leaving behind the 'somali customary system' and telling them to rule each other on that. It simply wouldn't work cause their so different in culture and on top of that using a foreign system on one another, you can see where that will lead.

 

[MadNomad]

Colonialism can't be the scapegoat forever. The population growth is completely unsustainable. Africans are already struggling with poverty today, add another billion and that continent is done for.

 

[Yonis]

If any one thinks this is sustainable is utterly deluded

 

[Nightline Kid]

If any one thinks this is sustainable is utterly deluded

Overpopulation is a problem but don't you think it's wrong to completely dismiss the effects of colonialism and solely blame high birth rates?

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Macron is just mad cuz he dont have kids

 

[Yonis]

Overpopulation is a problem but don't you think it's wrong to completely dismiss the effects of colonialism and solely blame high birth rates?

What does colonialism have to do with high birth rates.

Sub saharan africa will be overpopulated by 2050 and it will be because of the lack of access to birth control and contraceptives .

 

[Nightline Kid]

What does colonialism have to do with high birth rates.

Sub saharan africa will be overpopulated by 2050 and it will be because of the lack of access to birth control and contraceptives .

The problem with what Macron said is that he dismissed the effects of colonialism and solely blamed the high birth rates of Africans. Is overpopulation a problem? Yes it is, but to blame that and only that on Africa's problems and dismissing colonialism altogether is an erroneous decision

 

[Yonis]

The problem with what Macron said is that he dismissed the effects of colonialism and solely blamed the high birth rates of Africans. Is overpopulation a problem? Yes it is, but to blame that and only that on Africa's problems and dismissing colonialism altogether is an erroneous decision

Where does he do this

 

[Nightline Kid]

Where does he do this

I was going to reply that it was right in the OP, but then I found this translation of the speech

It looks like the "7 or 8 children per woman" was sort of taken out of context.

 

[Ras]

There might be plenty of resources enough for 10x of the current population in Africa but it's useless if everyone is poor and uneducated.

No family planning leads to overburdened households that can't invest sufficiently in their children's future.

Average decent schooling per kid in Somalia goes for thousands a year.

Atm most average households only have that much to spend between 5-7 kids.

It'll be a never ending cycle of poverty.

 

[Inquisitive_]

The number of idiots on this thread is alarming, bringing nothing to this debate other then useless regurgitation of the same old fascist Europhile talking points.

The problem in Africa and much of the world is due to these same satanic Europhile's, it's the ongoing neocolonialism, the fascism, for god God sake much of Africa still paying colonial tax to France with a level of exploitation and loot that is beyond human comprehension and on a scale that is deafening.

This is why Ghaddafi had to go and why many other countries were plunged into chaos were they fund all the rebel/terrorists groups as part of population control plans and to ensure perpetual poverty and chaos, they used to specifically go out and murder professors/learned people/entrepreneurs and anything else that is a threat to revival or a populist leader (they murdered both DR King/Malcom even in America never mind Africa)

The reason why these Europhiles since the 1800's have become fixated with overpopulation is because they are the least fertile people on this earth, this plot is essentially for their own survival, they know they cannot continue to do this colossal theft as their numbers dwindle.

Let's take a look at Somalia, no one disputes al-shabab is a CIA asset/creation, therefore no accident they are squatting on the most fertile soils in Somalia with such a force/arms that even tribal or government militia's can't do anything about and this is not by accident, they occupy the most fertile soils in the entire Jubba valley, ensuring self sufficiency never comes to you and hence your perpetual reliance on handouts.

As a last line of defence you have the Europhile numerous NGO's, IMF, World Bank tyranny, anyone that steps out of line will get invaded like the previous Central African Republic Pro China President (overthrown through fictitious Kony2012 NGO program) which plunged the country into a civil war ever since, like in Syria, Libya, Iraq and many more.

As Muslims we are commanded in the Quran not to kill out children for fear of poverty because Allah provides for them (abortion is killing), the idea that there is some sort of a limit on population which Malthus put at 500 million, then 1 billion etc. (forever changing) is nothing more then a satanic form of mental disease and Europhile conformity, it's a voluntary form of mental slavery, the slaves that were being shipped to Europe many of them went willingly and were baptised just before it, they thought they were doing Christ work, the people arguing overpopulation are no different then those slaves that willingly let the iron collars be place on their necks and toil in the fields (until it was too late to change their minds)

The causes of poverty/conflict around the world particularly Africa is the due to the kabbalist Talmudist satanic Babylonian system of which the overlords are none other then the Europhile's, because the only way the richest continent on this earth in everything is also the poorest can only be explained by gross exploitation and wicked neocolonialism which is exactly what is happening.

 

[SuldaanGuled]

War anaga waxaa aragnay

We need to assess as to why the population can't be sustained, simply saying it can't dood ma ahaan ee sabaabta so sheeg. I for one believe the real culprit lies with how the existing resources are managed & utilised. Take dalkeena for instance isn't it due to our inability to properly utilise and manage the current resources which are available to sustain and cater for the populace and any potential growth ?

The resources are there we need to look at the causes that hinder them from being exploited for the good of the people. This is the real cause for the current predicaments africa finds itself in

 

[Gambar]

It's not the amount of kids, it's the poverty in comparison to the amount of kids. If your parents both have decent jobs and can support 5-10 kids (like mine did) then it's not a problem. The problem is extremely poor people keep having kids despite not having sufficient food, resources, and funds to support their already big family.

Look at all these Somali men for example pressuring their wives to have a litter of kids for them because "Allah will be provide" and "nin laandheere baan ahay". War orod oo laandheeredada wase! Well off folks either don't have kids or have 1-2 kids.

 

[Yonis]

It's not the amount of kids, it's the poverty in comparison to the amount of kids. If your parents both have decent jobs and can support 5-10 kids (like mine did) then it's not a problem. The problem is extremely poor people keep having kids despite not having sufficient food, resources, and funds to support their already big family.

Look at all these Somali men for example pressuring their wives to have a litter of kids for them because "Allah will be provide" and "nin laandheere baan ahay". War orod oo laandheeredada wase! Well off folks either don't have kids or have 1-2 kids.

You are a Darood queen you can have as many children as you'd like

 

[Gambar]

You are a Darood queen you can have as many children as you'd like

No thanks I am only having 1-2.

 

[Inquisitive_]

It's not the amount of kids, it's the poverty in comparison to the amount of kids. If your parents both have decent jobs and can support 5-10 kids (like mine did) then it's not a problem. The problem is extremely poor people keep having kids despite not having sufficient food, resources, and funds to support their already big family.

Look at all these Somali men for example pressuring their wives to have a litter of kids for them because "Allah will be provide" and "nin laandheere baan ahay". War orod oo laandheeredada wase! Well off folks either don't have kids or have 1-2 kids.

They are all better then you, they have all raised families whom Allah provides for unlike you that took the Europhile position of swallowing poisonous birth control pills and talking as if it's all in your hands while being proud of your 9-5.

Many of these parents never made even close to that money you did yet their faith was strong, today they are reaping those fruits in many ways earning far more including their kids while you sit there with your Europhile blue-pill imaan-la'aan family planning books arrogantly thinking the best time to have kids like it's all in your hands, have some shame

 

[Yonis]

They are all better then you, they have all raised families whom Allah provides for unlike you that took the Europhile position of swallowing poisonous birth control pills and talking as if it's all in your hands while being proud of your 9-5.

Many of these parents never made that money you did yet their faith was strong, today they are reaping those fruits in many ways while you sit there with your Europhile blue-pill imaan-la'aan family planning books arrogantly thinking the best time to have kids like it's all in your hands, have some shame.

lower IQ people tend to have more children than higher IQ people, because smarter people tend to second guess their decisions and consider whether they have the financial means and resources to raise large families.

Everything you dismiss as "europhile" is just inconvenient truths