Breaking News Former Deputy-PM of Somalia Mohamed Omar Carte gives up on unity and believes in separation. Granted pardon by Somaliland.

kickz

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Sounds like one of those Djibouti negotiation points of Politicians moving freely coming to fruition :hmm:
 

OffTheDome

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Dumbass government gave him forgiveness and a pardon after he resigned from the Somalian parliament, should’ve been shot on sight or sent to Mandheera
:francis:
 

Octavian

Hmm
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Your leaders are quite silly and your people should stand up to them and tell them the truth, the liklihood the international community will violate a registered member state of the UN and break all international laws regarding territorial sovereignity of a nation is 'unlikely' and 'improbable'.

Your leaders just feed your people garbage and you sit there for 30 years and 'clap' like something significant will change. Take charge and say u had enough of the secession lies rather then defending it. Your people pay the price for this 30 years and nothing and u will have children who pursue the same failed ambition and get nowhere.
firstly im not from sl secondly if the leaders have sold them these so called lies then why haven't they rebelled before ? if the people wanted change then would've done ages ago organizing a angry mob into a semi competent militicia is the simplest thing mankind could do. What i think of these lies that ur proposing is that the people are fine with it sure sl has its problems but it is doing far better then most federal states. When it comes to icitraaf firstly u have too look at whom they are trying to seceede from and its gov the federal goverment has issues stemming from AS holding ministry positions to being one of the most corrupt nations on earth and as barley any control of its own capital and country so with these factors in mind i do think that sl has the ability to become a recognized nation
 

Thegoodshepherd

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So there were Isaaq warlords in Mogadishu? I always assumed Omar Arte was Hawiye.
This is the son of Cumar Carte. Both father and son were part of USC and were leading the push against the southern Darod in 1991. Cumar Carte, then PM of the USC government, convinced Cali Mahdi to cut supplies to Caydiid and the USC fighting in Jubaland. This advice is what would later cause the civil war inside USC, and give the southern Darod the time needed to resupply from Kenya and end Hawiye presence in Jubaland. Cumar Carte is big reason why Hawiye military power fell off a cliff after 1992.
 
He worked with the CIA, he is one of the few well connected people left, no one can touch him. But he's been out of a government position, this is hardly breaking news.
 

Grigori Rasputin

“No more your dad” “your mom loofs me”
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Is the Somali gov just a sitting duck. A xoolo. This is treasonous. Why didn’t they grab him and jail him?
 

Helios

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This is the son of Cumar Carte. Both father and son were part of USC and were leading the push against the southern Darod in 1991. Cumar Carte, then PM of the USC government, convinced Cali Mahdi to cut supplies to Caydiid and the USC fighting in Jubaland. This advice is what would later cause the civil war inside USC, and give the southern Darod the time needed to resupply from Kenya and end Hawiye presence in Jubaland. Cumar Carte is big reason why Hawiye military power fell off a cliff after 1992.
He also disbanded the SNA
:banderas:

@Crow Cumar Arte is not a warlord idk why thegoodshepherd forgot to address that point but he was foreign minister during the kacaan and is the reason why Somalia joined the Arab league. His son Mohamed Cumar was the last deputy PM. Neither of them are rated in the north because Cumar was too cozy with Siad Barre and he's an opp in my opinion. The family is wealthy asf and well connected - they're HA.
 
He also disbanded the SNA
:banderas:

@Crow Cumar Arte is not a warlord idk why thegoodshepherd forgot to address that point but he was foreign minister during the kacaan and is the reason why Somalia joined the Arab league. His son Mohamed Cumar was the last deputy PM. Neither of them are rated in the north because Cumar was too cozy with Siad Barre and he's an opp in my opinion. The family is wealthy asf and well connected - they're HA.
Yes, it's more accurate to say he was part of the wider Manifesto Group. He disbanded the army for you lot and you still show him no support. Sad! :meleshame:
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
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This is the son of Cumar Carte. Both father and son were part of USC and were leading the push against the southern Darod in 1991. Cumar Carte, then PM of the USC government, convinced Cali Mahdi to cut supplies to Caydiid and the USC fighting in Jubaland. This advice is what would later cause the civil war inside USC, and give the southern Darod the time needed to resupply from Kenya and end Hawiye presence in Jubaland. Cumar Carte is big reason why Hawiye military power fell off a cliff after 1992.
I don't buy this narrative. His father, Omar Arte, was the last PM named by Siad Barre. He ordered the darod militias to disarm and surrender to USC and SNM :pachah1:
 

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