Finally A Puntite Patriot Spits Facts
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It's about time we tell Somalis the truth not just SFG origin being from PL. But even the SYL. From 1930-1991 we contributed nothing but positivity to Somalia at the EXPENSE of our clan and region thru 'wadanimo'. That's facts, love it or hate it but it's still HARD FACTS.
Has any clan done such thing in return for PL, what 'facts' support your 'wadanimo' I ask non majerten clans? is it only 'songs'?
War khasaaraha naga soo gaadhay Somalinimada is never mentioned. We don't ever benefit from it, I know that for certain. HAGS benefit from Somalinimo always, look at where hag was pre-abdillahi and post abdillahi and measure the 'difference'. They gain something always from it. The same cannot be said for Puntland.
Has any clan done such thing in return for PL, what 'facts' support your 'wadanimo' I ask non majerten clans? is it only 'songs'?
War khasaaraha naga soo gaadhay Somalinimada is never mentioned. We don't ever benefit from it, I know that for certain. HAGS benefit from Somalinimo always, look at where hag was pre-abdillahi and post abdillahi and measure the 'difference'. They gain something always from it. The same cannot be said for Puntland.
I can list all the negavities that can fill an ocean that PL gained from Somalinimo.
1. Neglect towards our region from 1930-1991 to build other people land
2. Clan genocide against un-armed civilians and private properties looted
3. Dahir aways sending al-itihaad terrorists to our mountains and killing 300 people
4. Abdiqasim Salat instigating our civil war between jama ali jama and abdillahi yusuf using his PM ali khalif galayr.
5. Post SFG 2009 all the langaabs uniting against PL to lead using the govt we created against us, using international aid as 'isbaaro' on PL, undermining PL student 'scholarship', 4.5 which is another crime against PL. That's why I know Puntites are 'mightiest' clan becuz of how hamar/hargeisa all unite against them
Benefits
1. Italy aid funded road and 'semi complete' port at Bosaso only done in return to stop our 'rebel group'. This wasn't a 'debt' either but 'aid'. PL has no share of the national debt.
So when I hear puntites being so somalinimo, I wonder 'adigu fa'ido' kuma gabtid somalinimo nacas yahow nothing but total khasaaro
1. Neglect towards our region from 1930-1991 to build other people land
2. Clan genocide against un-armed civilians and private properties looted
3. Dahir aways sending al-itihaad terrorists to our mountains and killing 300 people
4. Abdiqasim Salat instigating our civil war between jama ali jama and abdillahi yusuf using his PM ali khalif galayr.
5. Post SFG 2009 all the langaabs uniting against PL to lead using the govt we created against us, using international aid as 'isbaaro' on PL, undermining PL student 'scholarship', 4.5 which is another crime against PL. That's why I know Puntites are 'mightiest' clan becuz of how hamar/hargeisa all unite against them
Benefits
1. Italy aid funded road and 'semi complete' port at Bosaso only done in return to stop our 'rebel group'. This wasn't a 'debt' either but 'aid'. PL has no share of the national debt.
So when I hear puntites being so somalinimo, I wonder 'adigu fa'ido' kuma gabtid somalinimo nacas yahow nothing but total khasaaro
PL carries the burden of Somalinimo, while langaabs reap the reward. The Far right should tap into the silent majority sentiment.
HG Achievements
1. Abdillahi Issa and North 'no condition' union which the North blames Majerten
2. USC genocide of darod un-armed civilians keyword 'unarmed'. USC 4 month war with itself.
3. Post 4 month war, HG land expansion into the south and mogadishu using the 'we r protecting u from darod' card to Hags
4. Looted the whole nation public and private assets and re-invested
5. Abdiqasim govt finishing his term in Nairobi hotels after his clan warlord refused to leave the capital.
6. Abdiqasim instigating PL civil war between Abdillahi Yusuf and Jama Ali Jama using PM Ali Khalif Galayr
7. Let's not forget Aideed who instigated SL civil war also between egal and abdirahman tuur which is still 'unresolved' to this day.
8. HG clan warring with everyone from darods-dir-rahanwayn-hawiyes
9. ICU giving birth to HG Shabab who used the religion card on SFG run by 'yey' and when sharif was elected then they went all 'shabab' proving 'dawlad ma raban' habar gedir, they will oppose anything and everything using ANY JAMBAL it can. HAGS ma raban inay iska gabtan nimankani. HG want 'haramtooda' thats it.
But these HAGS/DIRS still love them and back them, is that insanity or not? hence logic doesn't work in Somalia, so I advice PL to adopt a 'crazy insane' policy front, we may 'reap' rewards this time becuz other clans who have done this are reaping the rewards.
HG dawlad ma rabto wa in hisaabta lagu dara and not deny this and let them swallow up hs/gm/banadir and we propose a new solution for PL/JL
1. Abdillahi Issa and North 'no condition' union which the North blames Majerten
2. USC genocide of darod un-armed civilians keyword 'unarmed'. USC 4 month war with itself.
3. Post 4 month war, HG land expansion into the south and mogadishu using the 'we r protecting u from darod' card to Hags
4. Looted the whole nation public and private assets and re-invested
5. Abdiqasim govt finishing his term in Nairobi hotels after his clan warlord refused to leave the capital.
6. Abdiqasim instigating PL civil war between Abdillahi Yusuf and Jama Ali Jama using PM Ali Khalif Galayr
7. Let's not forget Aideed who instigated SL civil war also between egal and abdirahman tuur which is still 'unresolved' to this day.
8. HG clan warring with everyone from darods-dir-rahanwayn-hawiyes
9. ICU giving birth to HG Shabab who used the religion card on SFG run by 'yey' and when sharif was elected then they went all 'shabab' proving 'dawlad ma raban' habar gedir, they will oppose anything and everything using ANY JAMBAL it can. HAGS ma raban inay iska gabtan nimankani. HG want 'haramtooda' thats it.
But these HAGS/DIRS still love them and back them, is that insanity or not? hence logic doesn't work in Somalia, so I advice PL to adopt a 'crazy insane' policy front, we may 'reap' rewards this time becuz other clans who have done this are reaping the rewards.
HG dawlad ma rabto wa in hisaabta lagu dara and not deny this and let them swallow up hs/gm/banadir and we propose a new solution for PL/JL
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Daljir is where HG is now, they will hide behind the scenes backing anyone they know 'somali isku diri' karto so 'the haram can continue' this is their new strategy while they let their 'shabab' project continue to spread as 'back up'. I know these ppl, I studied them. Their working on new 'jambals' as we speak when one 'jambal' is dealt with.
HG want anyone who is darod or hawiye oo 'ay' kalsooni ku gaban inaysan dawladooda socon karin oo khilaaf iyo isgabgabsi ku dhamaado so they can continue bathing themselves in the 'haram' they acquired. HG will never back a guy that has the respect of all clans, it wud be nightmare to them somali is-racday. They know their politically 'untouchable' but this is their new strategy.
HG want anyone who is darod or hawiye oo 'ay' kalsooni ku gaban inaysan dawladooda socon karin oo khilaaf iyo isgabgabsi ku dhamaado so they can continue bathing themselves in the 'haram' they acquired. HG will never back a guy that has the respect of all clans, it wud be nightmare to them somali is-racday. They know their politically 'untouchable' but this is their new strategy.
HG thinks Puntites r stupid? we know u back n support any president of any clan that u know can't unify the nation so that govt dies and goes into nothingness. They put some HSM in and then tell 'hags' look darod hate u. Put Ogaden in PM, say look MJ hates u. They will do the same continously across all clans even MJ ay ku kalsooni gaban inu hawiye neceb yahay so they can say to hags look MJ hates u. War waxan waa 'jambalkooda' and ujeedo ba laga lee yahay inaysan somali isku racin oo arkin 'HG' is the common problem facing all clans.
I would tell our ISIMS in PL, HG has their 'goals' achieved of no govt in Somalia. They work behind the scenes to name new govt, PL then destroys it and this facilitates their end goal of no govt and perpertual cycle of nothing achieved, so they can continue their haram goals and their 'ultimate' fear somalis united waking up to who the common enemy of the nation is.
Deni was right if he did say to Omar mahmoud in galkayo 'the cadow of all somalis' is near u in baraxley 'quarter'.
Deni was right if he did say to Omar mahmoud in galkayo 'the cadow of all somalis' is near u in baraxley 'quarter'.
That's why I tell Puntites HG plans will get more 'sophisticated' they will re-run a 'Jama ali jama' type of majerten into villa somalia and then cause puntites to kill each other becuz duligani @Libaax-Joore ujeedada laga lee yahay 'waa burburka' puntland but he will think 'waa neceb muse suldan'. Now their using 'aaran jaan' locally or 'diyano' but they haven't 'put' them yet at 'qaran level' thank god.
Mark my words as MJS we must be very 'cautious' and must 'demand' any nominee in SFG has to have approval from their 'regional govt' in PL/JL. Right now their doing 'isku dir' at the darod level but mark my words HG has far more 'installed' for US in PL.
I can 'vision' what HG plans are to bring SNA/GM/HS/SL to attack a PL wadani leader after they installed a 'jama ali jama' type into villa somalia and using that subclan as 'trojan' horse inside PL saying PL wa 'somali diid' they know our 'clan' well and who is some1 ay 'wadan karan', mark my words now, u won't see what I say now, but when it happens, Ill remind u from my post here. A good leader has to have 'aragti' niyahow before IT HAPPENS not 'after' it happens and reporting on it.
Mark my words as MJS we must be very 'cautious' and must 'demand' any nominee in SFG has to have approval from their 'regional govt' in PL/JL. Right now their doing 'isku dir' at the darod level but mark my words HG has far more 'installed' for US in PL.
I can 'vision' what HG plans are to bring SNA/GM/HS/SL to attack a PL wadani leader after they installed a 'jama ali jama' type into villa somalia and using that subclan as 'trojan' horse inside PL saying PL wa 'somali diid' they know our 'clan' well and who is some1 ay 'wadan karan', mark my words now, u won't see what I say now, but when it happens, Ill remind u from my post here. A good leader has to have 'aragti' niyahow before IT HAPPENS not 'after' it happens and reporting on it.
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Right now my prediction is HG will kulamaysi 'issa mahmoud' telling em ' u never been in the villa' it's ur time, install a puppet that reports to them, then use sna/hs/gm forces to tell em PL is refusing the majerten president and this will spark a civil war front with issa mahmouds all running around saying 'why mjs refusing our time' like duligani @Libaax-Joore does lakin ma 'arkan' waxaa dan laga lee yahay.
Mark my words boys its coming, hada waa 'darod kala dil' ee majerteen kala dil ayaa soo socoda. That's why I tell Puntites stay away from presidential elections, the enemy can install a 'trojan' from ur region to cause civil war in ur territory, STAY WITH PM at least that can be discussed their 'appointee' and promote a 'strong raisal wasaare' not presidency in constitution like the 60s. So u can vote for their 'duli' in a ceremonial presidential role while having the PM 'negiotated' with PL/JL is the best strategy u 'hit two positions' with one rock.
I promoted this strategy years ago but it has fell on DEAF EARS. Maybe the future generation will see how it's 'wise'
Mark my words boys its coming, hada waa 'darod kala dil' ee majerteen kala dil ayaa soo socoda. That's why I tell Puntites stay away from presidential elections, the enemy can install a 'trojan' from ur region to cause civil war in ur territory, STAY WITH PM at least that can be discussed their 'appointee' and promote a 'strong raisal wasaare' not presidency in constitution like the 60s. So u can vote for their 'duli' in a ceremonial presidential role while having the PM 'negiotated' with PL/JL is the best strategy u 'hit two positions' with one rock.
I promoted this strategy years ago but it has fell on DEAF EARS. Maybe the future generation will see how it's 'wise'
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My strategy for PL/JL is the following.
1. Demand constitution protects PM autonomy
2. Weaken presidential role to ceremonial in constitution
3. Never run for Presidential, as somalis can plot to 'elect a stooge' from ur region to cause civil war with their home region
4. Untill such time 4.5 exists. PL/JL both have to consult on the 'darod' post not 'one side' only and this cannot be left to the president to decide
5. Every election 'elect' a hawiye like 'aden adde' type into president, while behind closed doors with the president, PL/JL select their 'PM' post, rinse n repeat this 'safety' strategy where they 'dont' elect ur 'stooge' thru 'voting' or god forbid thru 'presidential powers'. This allows u to 'control their HAG portion thru parliament voting, while eating yours separately behind closed doors when PM is named'
This strategy will ensure no 'isku dir' can happen at the darod or god forbid 'subclan' level when every parliament starts 'electing' your 'stooge' with the 'sole aim' of destroying your regions.
We must start WAGING a war on the presidential system and teach Somalis the evilness of presidential system which was inherited from 'siyad govt', the president is an 'oday' or 'ceremonial head of state' not the 'government' or god forbid the 'parliament or courts' which is what this type of presidential system is leading too(copying siyad).
1. Demand constitution protects PM autonomy
2. Weaken presidential role to ceremonial in constitution
3. Never run for Presidential, as somalis can plot to 'elect a stooge' from ur region to cause civil war with their home region
4. Untill such time 4.5 exists. PL/JL both have to consult on the 'darod' post not 'one side' only and this cannot be left to the president to decide
5. Every election 'elect' a hawiye like 'aden adde' type into president, while behind closed doors with the president, PL/JL select their 'PM' post, rinse n repeat this 'safety' strategy where they 'dont' elect ur 'stooge' thru 'voting' or god forbid thru 'presidential powers'. This allows u to 'control their HAG portion thru parliament voting, while eating yours separately behind closed doors when PM is named'
This strategy will ensure no 'isku dir' can happen at the darod or god forbid 'subclan' level when every parliament starts 'electing' your 'stooge' with the 'sole aim' of destroying your regions.
We must start WAGING a war on the presidential system and teach Somalis the evilness of presidential system which was inherited from 'siyad govt', the president is an 'oday' or 'ceremonial head of state' not the 'government' or god forbid the 'parliament or courts' which is what this type of presidential system is leading too(copying siyad).
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Yes Abdullahi Yuusuf AUN and MJ brought dawladnimada to Villa Xamar since 1991 there was no Govt but they put it in the wrong place. You cant fix Xamar.
The SFG right now is focused on 'darod isku dir' they will play this out, but whats coming later is 'scarier' 'sub clan isku dir' at PL or JL. When they elect ur 'stooge' who is maxamud saleban and he starts collecting sna/hs/gm to wage 'war' on PL who will see 'ujeedada' markay 'taabato' only, not 'before' and PL has internal rebellion and SNA/GM/HS/SL all swarm in to end PL while having 'trojan' clan inside of it helping their 'trojan elected weji sfg president' but he wont have any 'real' power but he will support their 'cause' to invade PL becuz of 'personal interests' of his.
Puntites need to discusss 'personal interest n regional interest' and where the LINE is drawn so anyone who violates it they cant cry 'the clan card'
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Umad aan 'tashan' usually have the most dangerous 'politicians' as their is no check n balance on them, or anything to 'measure' them by becuz their is no 'unified political goal' for their clan, this can only mean he wants to 'spread' their clan dysfunction to the rest of somalia so were all 'equalized' now.
They want PL to be like mogadishu basically. If they had 'political goal' and 'united people' we can 'calculate' where their heading and even negiotate, but that's not there, so those type of social units are vulnerable to any 'personal interest leader' who has no 'fear' of any backlash ileen 'umad tashatay iyo dan guud ka dhexayo maba jiro oo lagula hisabtamo'.
Hence HAG leaders have nothing to 'lose' plus no accountability from their social units, this can only mean 1 thing 'anarchy' spread so every region is effected, ileen 'kibrad' kale meesha kuma hayan ama beeshooda bay ka muqan lahayd ma 'garatay'?
They want PL to be like mogadishu basically. If they had 'political goal' and 'united people' we can 'calculate' where their heading and even negiotate, but that's not there, so those type of social units are vulnerable to any 'personal interest leader' who has no 'fear' of any backlash ileen 'umad tashatay iyo dan guud ka dhexayo maba jiro oo lagula hisabtamo'.
Hence HAG leaders have nothing to 'lose' plus no accountability from their social units, this can only mean 1 thing 'anarchy' spread so every region is effected, ileen 'kibrad' kale meesha kuma hayan ama beeshooda bay ka muqan lahayd ma 'garatay'?
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