FGS says Somalia could get advanced weapons from partners

[World]

Somalia is also a vast country with a harsh climate but the most important thing is just like afgan govt, corruption is the foundation of the somali govt.

Advanced weaponry like drones make more of a difference in Somalia than Afghanistan

 

[Aseer]

We need ACP's, Drones and decent firearms the most but what we REALLY need to put most of our funding into is skilled forces that can take out and uproot insurgents as well as a strong and terrifying intelligence force if we do all this by 1- or 2-years al-Shabaab will be gone and from there we just focus on passive development. there is no need to buy advanced weaponry rn we just need stuff that's most effective against these al shabaab insurgents since they should be our top priority.

 

[IKHALIIL]

Afghan govt army was well armed with jets, tanks , humvees and helicopters but it didn't stopped them from collapsing

Afghan government is more comparable to siad barre's government that had all the weaponry but couldn't get the majority on his side

 

[MVPSOM]

Afghan govt army was well armed with jets, tanks , humvees and helicopters but it didn't stopped them from collapsing

I believe the Afghan army collapsed because when they were running out of ammo and other logistics the corrupt Afghan gov failed to support them. Also, soldiers salaries were not paid. So the troops said f*ck it, we ain't fighting and dying for this corrupt government and left their posts.

I also think same thing happened to the Iraqi army when ISIS took over Anbar province as well as Sunnis feelings disenfranchised by the ruling Shia gov.

 

[johnsepei5]

Every country in the world manufactures their own bullets
They are not that hard to make
Fgs needs to set up a weapon factory,we can’t still be getting ammunition from partners

 

[Gaandheri]

Either ally with the Iranians or go to Iran and turkey let them teach you how to make these drones. The old age of ww1 or ww2 type of fighting is over its proxy warfare now. An Iranian Houthi drone I that is $20,00 getting shot down by a $2,000,000 US missile.

 

[Camaar]

Afghan government is more comparable to siad barre's government that had all the weaponry but couldn't get the majority on his side

The siad barre govt at its weakest was 100 times stronger than the current sna, barre controlled most of the country while today sna only control Mogadishu

 

[IKHALIIL]

The siad barre govt at its weakest was 100 times stronger than the current sna, barre controlled most of the country while today sna only control Mogadishu

The point i am making is that whoever has the support of the majority of the population will inevitably win e.g the taliban, the current government of Somalia and the various rebel factions of the civil war

 

[Mayor]

Afghan government is more comparable to siad barre's government that had all the weaponry but couldn't get the majority on his side

I hate the Kacaan, but it was able to stay in power for multiple decades before it was overthrown. And it maintained its control without the presence of foreign troops

Compare that to the previous government of Afganistan who only was able to maintain control of the country due to America’s presence. Once the US left the government lost control of the country

I don’t think the current Somali government is as unpopular as the previous Afgani government, so it’ll definitely have more local support in fighting Al-Shabaab if the foreign troops left

But if you had to make a comparison I’d say that the current Somali government is closer to the Afghanistan government that was recently toppled, than it is to the Kacaan

 

[reer]

The siad barre govt at its weakest was 100 times stronger than the current sna, barre controlled most of the country while today sna only control Mogadishu

sna doesnt fully control mogadishu. you have AS implementing court rulings in parts of xamar and amisom troops.

 

[Camaar]

The point i am making is that whoever has the support of the majority of the population will inevitably win e.g the taliban, the current government of Somalia and the various rebel factions of the civil war

Which support when even the president own subclan opposes him? The reality is somalia is a fragile state and the only thing keeping it intact is the foreign aid . For instance 65% of annual somalia budget is financed by donors.The other outrageous thing is UN assistance Mission in somalia has a bigger budget than the somali govt

 

[IKHALIIL]

Which support when even the president own subclan opposes him? The reality is somalia is a fragile state and the only thing keeping it intact is the foreign aid . For instance 65% of annual somalia budget is financed by donors.The other outrageous thing is UN assistance Mission in somalia has a bigger budget than the somali govtView attachment 309091

What do you think you know about the president's subclan for you to think they oppose him or dowladnimo in general?
The fact that this foreign aid/corruption exists is precisely what has been keeping us in the same situation. What do you think the politicians in xamar are doing, working to uplift their constituents or fighting over the share of the aid given to the country they get to take home?
These propaganda photos have been debunked.

 

[IKHALIIL]

sna doesnt fully control mogadishu.

It was during your "aabo's" term in office that all this was happening plus the record he set when a meeting held by Eng Yarisoow the governor of banaadir region in his own office was bombed eventually resulting in his death. Today there is no more ciyaal weero and ciyaal bac ka sii thanks to military police's tight grip on the cities security today.

you have AS implementing court rulings in parts of xamar and amisom troops.

You are talking about court hearings that don't exist in reality when they just so happened to be the driver of the speaker of parliament and the closest security officials for that joke of a government, please.

Xamarna waa nabad keep hating!

 

[DR OSMAN]

Somali politics and religion will always be nothing more then empty faith and they think faith means facts lol go try and pray for peace for 30 years do u see peace? Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda statements is faith based not fact based as facts have statements like WILL get it which means facts. They will repeat faith based time waste and waste another 50 years thinking faith is a fact its not and only a request and requests can be denied you don't sit there and hope it will be accepted you make decision to take action.

All their debt relief and weapons embargo is faith based politics its not a fact noone sees it waryaa. Like when I tell Isaaq go check his Berbera port clients and largest is livestock revenues and all from darod trader he can actually go verify what I say since its a fact its not requiring faith thats maskax based politics its evidence based. Then he will realize all his business ppl survive on darod not themselves and thru that they build hargeisa. Darod is the GDP in Somalia which all clans then try to live off and build their cities.

At least they say if allah wills lol but allah rarely answers their desires so even he is sick of them not getting the message to stop praying as he wants nothing to do with you lol so it's always sheeko cantrabaqash their politics and religion and never leaves meeting rooms and tv is-tustus but never will you see any results and they repeat wa ino shir kale lol shirkooda ma dhamaado as they love the attention and bal ii arka lakin wax amal iyo waxqabad kama soo baxo beyond Balamo which is promises and is faith based also not fact based.

Somalis need to adopt maskax based politics or rationalism and prove what they say or do not preach it as preaching is faith based.

 

[Thelegendhimself]

25 units of F15 fighters
10 units of f22 fighters
10 units of MI 28 helicopters
6 units of naval destroyers ( no cheap Russian /Chinese shit)
5 units of frigates
1000 units of tanks ( no cheap Russian or Chinese shit)
1000 artillery guns
More baykar drones too
Few dozen maintenence and ammunition factories across the countries
Home grown defence industry and maybe a nuclear program.

 

[DR OSMAN]

25 units of F15 fighters
10 units of f22 fighters
10 units of MI 28 helicopters
6 units of naval destroyers ( no cheap Russian /Chinese shit)
5 units of frigates
1000 units of tanks ( no cheap Russian or Chinese shit)
1000 artillery guns
More baykar drones too
Few dozen maintenence and ammunition factories across the countries
Home grown defence industry and maybe a nuclear program.

Your preaching to do what siyad did with Russia now its only with the west. Cant wait when u have disagreement and they cut military trade. Knowledge transfer and security independence is mandatory not buying or hoping for military charity. The whole nation no matter what area is all relying on charity.

 

[Aiman12]

25 units of F15 fighters
10 units of f22 fighters
10 units of MI 28 helicopters
6 units of naval destroyers ( no cheap Russian /Chinese shit)
5 units of frigates
1000 units of tanks ( no cheap Russian or Chinese shit)
1000 artillery guns
More baykar drones too
Few dozen maintenence and ammunition factories across the countries
Home grown defence industry and maybe a nuclear program.

having even 10% of this would bankrupt us in maintenance costs not even a month after arms embargo is lifted and you people think we can get aircraft carriers and nukes

 

[reer]

It was during your "aabo's" term in office that all this was happening plus the record he set when a meeting held by Eng Yarisoow the governor of banaadir region in his own office was bombed eventually resulting in his death. Today there is no more ciyaal weero and ciyaal bac ka sii thanks to military police's tight grip on the cities security today.

You are talking about court hearings that don't exist in reality when they just so happened to be the driver of the speaker of parliament and the closest security officials for that joke of a government, please.

Xamarna waa nabad keep hating!

im not like hawiye. when you insult farmajo i dont get emotional.

 

[IKHALIIL]

im not like hawiye. when you insult farmajo i dont get emotional.

Where did I insult him?

 

[Thelegendhimself]

Your preaching to do what siyad did with Russia now its only with the west. Cant wait when u have disagreement and they cut military trade. Knowledge transfer and security independence is mandatory not buying or hoping for military charity. The whole nation no matter what area is all relying on charity.

having even 10% of this would bankrupt us in maintenance costs not even a month after arms embargo is lifted and you people think we can get aircraft carriers and nukes

America will pay for it, we will say it's to hold off Russia or something. That's a trigger word for them.