FGS doesn’t have the luxury of recognizing Madobe, it’s the only option

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  1. Teeri-Alpha

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    FGS doesn’t have the luxury of recognizing Madobe, it’s the only option
    The Federal Government used force to install its preferred candidate in South West in 2018 and must therefore contend with another candidate coming into office without its blessings
    October 6, 2019
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    https://goobjoog.com/english/fgs-doesnt-have-the-luxury-of-recognizing-madobe-its-the-only-option/
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    Ahmed Madobe, just like his South West counterpart Abdiasis Lafta Gareen came into office through a process that failed the electoral test. They are all we have for now. UN Photo / Tobin Jones


    By T. Roble

    IN THE RUN-UP to the South West elections last December, the Federal Government arm-twisted then-president Sharif Sheikh Adan into resigning and pulling out of the race. Subsequently, Villa Somalia mandarins in cahoots with Ethiopian forces forcefully arrested candidate Mukhtar Robow, flew him to Mogadishu and effectively ‘pulled him out’ of the presidential race.

    First forward July 2018, the same fellows at Villa Somalia enlisted the services of the Ethiopians (who have for the longest possible played antagonistic politics in Somalia) to wrest control of Jubbaland in the then polls. But the battle proved no mean feat this time around as Madobe, supposedly with Kenyan support outwitted his rivals from Mogadishu and went ahead to retain his seat.

    In both scenarios, the rules of the game were bent in favour of one party. Villa Somalia forced through Abdiaziz Mohamed Lafta Gareen while Madobe made his way through with apparent support from Nairobi. Looked at objectively, both Lafta Gareen and Madobe came into office through a process that fell short of electoral threshold.

    COMPROMISE PRESIDENT
    The people of South West and Jubbaland through their respective representative mechanism were in one way or another denied the opportunity to select/elect their state governors. But either way, they now have a compromise president. It follows therefore that the Federal Government, just like the people of South West and Jubbaland has to contend with the product of the electoral process in both states.

    The Federal Government lost the moral authority to question Madobe’s election when it engaged in mafia-style tactics in Baidoa in December. It is instructive to note that as a result of the forceful ‘withdrawal’ of Robow from the race, at least 15 people were killed in a flare-up of violence which even the UN put the blame squarely on the doors of Villa Somalia.

    It is not therefore upon the Federal Government to recognize Madobe’s election; it is the people of Jubbaland. Same as it denied the people South West free choice, the Federal Government too waived upon itself the luxury of deciding Madobe’s fate.

    VICTIMISING JUBBALANDERS
    Any restrictions on Jubbaland- economic sanctions and otherwise, are at the detriment of the people of Jubbaland. The recent air travel restrictions by the Somalia Civil Aviation Authority adversely affected livelihoods in Jubbaland including humanitarian flow. Both President Mohamed Farmaajo and Prime Minister Hassan Khaire need to bear in mind that they hold state resources in trust and are not therefore at liberty to utilize them for political ends. Such must also be resident in the mind of Madobe at all times.

    As it emerged from the just concluded Somalia Partnership Forum, the squabbling between the two levels of government had significantly affected the realization of key milestones under the Mutual Accountability Framework (MAF) agreed to in Brussels on July 2018. UK Ambassador to Somalia Ben Fender summed up the frustrations not only of the international community but also Somalia- ‘show real leadership.’

    Going forward, Madobe will soon be sworn into office and unless otherwise, becomes the president of Jubbaland just like his counterpart in South West is for the next four years. Both Madobe and Villa Somalia need each other not for their survival but for the common interest of the people of Somalia. Should Villa Somalia maintain its stance that it will not recognize Madobe, then the people of Jubbaland, and not necessarily Madobe will continue to suffer in isolation.

    The only legitimate way to remove Madobe out of office now is through a legal means which apparently is not in place. There is no proper legal framework including competent courts to challenge the election of a state president neither is there a Constitutional Court to give an interpretation of constitutional issues arising out of such cases.

    As is common knowledge, subsequent governments since the adoption of the Provisional Constitution in 2012 have deliberately ensured a weak and dependent judiciary.

    Both Madobe and Villa Somalia are a necessary evil to each other and must, therefore, realise that and work together for the good of the people of Somalia.
     
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  2. Diaspora ambassador

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    This might be a blessing in disguise, N&N might be forced to complete the federal constitution in order to kick madoobe out of office.

    Thank you Kenya for strong arming N&N to revisit the federal constitution and create the legal framework to kick out your own governor. Thank you very much mudane kikiyu.
     
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  3. Teeri-Alpha

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    ahaha,would love to see you and your N+N to come and try it,
     
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    I ain't pro N&N and no supporter of madobe. I support the system not individuals.

    I want to see a peaceful transition of power in JL when A.S is exterminated. Meaning madoobe has to go all out and kill every last Al shabaab agent. I see no reason why MX should govern JL in this dark era. Madoobe has the alliances needed to fulfil this task.

    After he eliminated A.S he should retire.
    On the other hand if N&N finish the federal constitution, I would rather see another high placed ogadeni take over JL.
     
  5. Cognitivedissonance

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    This aint about president farmaajo and prime minister khayre vs ahmed madoobe boowe this is somalia vs kenya and their lackey ahmed madoobe

    In sha Allah somalia will be victorious against kenya and their slave ahmed madoobe
     
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    Cagdheer who have supported somalia enemy kenya that wishes to take our land and sea and currently we are in court somalia vs kenya on territorial dispute and ahmed madoobe has supported kenya over somalia boowe do i need to remind you that jubbaland is in somalia or did you think jubbaland was in kenya?

    Clearly ahmed madoobe and his supporters who are mainly ogaden who are mostly from kenya are the enemy of somalia
     
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  7. diaby

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    It was one of your clansmen who sold the sea to Kenya sxb save your crocodile tears for fellow retards.
     
  8. Yahya

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    Not gonna happen. The icj case will go on as stated by the courts and kenya will be forced to leave. The real fight is in the center of jubbaland. Whoever conqueres shabaab and controls middle jubbaland will control the southern state. Madoobe can stay in kismaayo if he wants. The SNA just have to keep pushing shabaab back into kenya and hold their land.

    Once kenya realises it's a loosing battle, they will sell you out my friend. They are cowards and would have attacked somalia by now and annexed land if they could. Only delusional ppl believe that kenya can remain and aid their allies in jubbaland.

    :mjlol:
     
  9. Teeri-Alpha

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    if Mj decides who runs puntland, Ogaden decides who runs Jubaland, not FGS, submit to FGS, then i will do the same and all the other regions first, i will not hand over my powers on a plate first, we know what hisotry has thought those who do.

    anyways read the Constitution, it say the regional states decide their own internal Constitution and FGS cannot get involved, so first respect your own constitutions before yuo start attacking us for not following it bro, come on.

    http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/research/Somalia-Constitution2012.pdf


    so next time bro, read and respect your so called constitutions, FGS cannot get involved, the regions states set their own rules for election and choose their own leaders with out FGS involvement, as its stated, did i make this up? evidence is in-front of you bro,

    meanwhile i use this dastuur to wipe it with my cats arse,

    take my advise, majerteeniya was kingdom once before somalia just the way Jubaland was a kingdom before Somalia under Ogaden kings, take it and leave this shythole,, if the b00ns eat me up, if, they will come for you last, they dont want or respect federalism, they want to return us to tribalism, favouring certain qabils over others,
     
  10. Teeri-Alpha

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    go and learn geo politics and history and the incompetent of the so called SNA that shoots at each other, 4 times in 2019 alone, :damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:
     
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    This is the man who was invited to jubbaland by his cousin ahmed madoobe aden duaale the head of kenya Parliament and this man wants kenyas army to take jubbaland by force from somalia using kenya military



    This is not president farmaajo and prime minister khayre vs ahmed madoobe boowe this is somalia vs kenya and ahmed madoobe tribe from kenya
     
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    Says the al shabaab hostage. How many years have you lived under shabaab threat in your own land? Do you think kenya can even escort you to the battle lines past al shabaab territory?

    I wonder how they will punish your precious madoobe when they lose the icj case and have to watch US oil companies drill the oil and piss on kenya.

    :ulyin:
     
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    I never understood why the federal government of somalia deported qalbidhagax back to his country but today after seeing aden duaale the slave of kukuiye in kismayo today now i understand



    Heres you uncle aden duaale talking about how jubbaland belongs kenya boowe any nation who is the enemy of somalia will never prosper
     
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    Kenya will lose the maritime case anyway. This is about Farmajo trying to install puppets in every Federal state before the next election.
     
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    seeing that clown ducaale has made my blood boil, this is the tipping point.

    I think its clear as daylight that ahmed madoobe and the kenyan filth need to be wiped out of somalia.
     
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    Every tribe in somalia today stood by ahmed madoobe from fartaag who is farmaajo cousin to isaaq and hawiye why did he need to invite aden duaale who is working for the kenyan government who claims our land and seas?

    This aint about farmaajo, this is about somalia vs kenya.
     
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    Less talk, more action. I mean we've been hearing the same story from bo0nta marehan for 11 years now.

    You know what else makes an awful lot of noise but has no bite?

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    :mjlaugh:
     
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    And to add insult to injury aden duaale mocked the president of somalia in his own soil:wow:

    Thats unacceptable wallahi
     
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    where were you before your kikuyu husband brought you to kismaayo? how come only harti and marehan use to fight in kismaayo when it was between two somali qabils in the 90s?

    just because the kikuyu bends you over and forced himself raw doggy style on you does not make his balls your balls.

    walle mark my words you are finished.
     
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    Thanks for proving that you're just another bo0n kid from diaspora. Go ask one of your uncles about Jess, Gabyow and company little guy I don't have time to give you a history lesson.
     
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