Farmaajo's state visit reception in Cairo

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The most just position is the neutral position IF he was truely neutral!

but farmaajo campain donation and "bribes" he paid the mp's with came from Qatar. His Chief of Staff is a former Qatari aljeezra journalist.

It's a mess I personally would have weight up the pro's and cons and would have went with the evil SA/UAE group just to be pragmatic.

But I would have done it brudgelny as I hate the corrupt UAE.

So far going with qatar has shown us litte economicly.
I would agree if this was just Qatar vs UAE/SAUDI block but it's not! Turkey comes as the package deal, in fact Turkey and the UAE are bitter enemies and oppose each other everywhere as is Egypt, they have a cooling relationship with the Saudis

In foreign policy when your an absolute impoverished country rule number 1 is that you never sideline your best most reliable friend whom in a very short period of time have done more for us then all other nations put together in 30 years.

They are the only country serious about building the SNA backed up by their military base and their largest embassy in the world, not just mere hearsay we heard for the past 30 years from these GCC countries.

Your advocating throwing our only life line Turkey under the bus which is absolute suicide and for what exactly ? what has the UAE/EGYPT/SAUDI ever done for us inside the country other then subversion and arm terrorists ?

All the nonsense of livestock export market and Somali's doing business in UAE are all laughable, it's nothing more then trade which the UAE benefits from the most since the trade surplus is heavily in their favour, we have the cheapest livestock in the world which we export to them and also after the Iranian's they make the most money from us on their main port.

The Turks have tried to change this by internationalising Somalia's ports starting with Xamar, they have put in bids for Kismaayo/Bosaaso/Berbera until the UAE parasites blocked all of this through the GCC and through bribes, then went on a damage control to buy them all up and do a Yemen on them so it never competes.

This flipflopping mindless switching between super powers is what got us in trouble in the first place, if we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed for the future.
 
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The most just position is the neutral position IF he was truely neutral!

but farmaajo campain donation and "bribes" he paid the mp's with came from Qatar. His Chief of Staff is a former Qatari aljeezra journalist.

It's a mess I personally would have weight up the pro's and cons and would have went with the evil SA/UAE group just to be pragmatic.

But I would have done it brudgelny as I hate the corrupt UAE.

So far going with qatar has shown us litte economicly.

Now I am 100% sure that you are not MX.
 
I would agree if this was just Qatar vs UAE/SAUDI block but it's not! Turkey comes as the package deal, in fact Turkey and the UAE are bitter enemies and oppose each other everywhere as is Egypt, they have a cooling relationship with the Saudis

In foreign policy when your an absolute impoverished country rule number 1 is that you never sideline your best most reliable friend whom in a very short period of time have done more for us then all other nations put together in 30 years.

They are the only country serious about building the SNA backed up by their military base and their largest embassy in the world, not just mere hearsay we heard for the past 30 years from these GCC countries.

Your advocating throwing our only life line Turkey under the bus which is absolute suicide and for what exactly ? what has the UAE/EGYPT/SAUDI ever done for us inside the country other then subversion and arm terrorists ?

All the nonsense of livestock export market and Somali's doing business in UAE are all laughable, it's nothing more then trade which the UAE benefits from the most since the trade surplus is heavily in their favour, we have the cheapest livestock in the world which we export to them and also after the Iranian's they make the most money from us on their main port.

The Turks have tried to change this by internationalising Somalia's ports starting with Xamar, they have put in bids for Kismaayo/Bosaaso/Berbera until the UAE parasites blocked all of this through the GCC and through bribes, then went on a damage control to buy them all up and do a Yemen on them so it never competes.

This flipflopping mindless switching between super powers is what got us in trouble in the first place, if we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed for the future.

They don't know nature of Arab 's backstabbing and how they don't know word "loyalty" unlike Turkey.
 
I would agree if this was just Qatar vs UAE/SAUDI block but it's not! Turkey comes as the package deal, in fact Turkey and the UAE are bitter enemies and oppose each other everywhere as is Egypt, they have a cooling relationship with the Saudis

In foreign policy when your an absolute impoverished country rule number 1 is that you never sideline your best most reliable friend whom in a very short period of time have done more for us then all other nations put together in 30 years.

They are the only country serious about building the SNA backed up by their military base and their largest embassy in the world, not just mere hearsay we heard for the past 30 years from these GCC countries.

Your advocating throwing our only life line Turkey under the bus which is absolute suicide and for what exactly ? what has the UAE/EGYPT/SAUDI ever done for us inside the country other then subversion and arm terrorists ?

All the nonsense of livestock export market and Somali's doing business in UAE are all laughable, it's nothing more then trade which the UAE benefits from the most since the trade surplus is heavily in their favour, we have the cheapest livestock in the world which we export to them and also after the Iranian's they make the most money from us on their main port.

The Turks have tried to change this by internationalising Somalia's ports starting with Xamar, they have put in bids for Kismaayo/Bosaaso/Berbera until the UAE parasites blocked all of this through the GCC and through bribes, then went on a damage control to buy them all up and do a Yemen on them so it never competes.

This flipflopping mindless switching between super powers is what got us in trouble in the first place, if we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed for the future.

You spoke the truth :qri8gs7: we have to outmaneuver uae's imperialism and their designs. Anyone who is on their side is the enemy
 
Haha frameworks? treaties? i think you've missed the class on the 'art of FP', it's not about promises it's about capability. will Ethiopia control a large amount of water that flows and is the life blood of Egypt, yes. Will Ethiopia use it to ... idk get Egypt to change its policies on certain matters, if I was Ethiopians I would use the dam for all its worth. I mean if Egypt didn't do as I say, a simple threat to cut the water supply is all it takes. The dam will cut into Egypt's very sovereignty.
They're not going to risk a political downfall by attacking a dam that could also help them in the long run. There's currently over 500 European (Italian and french) and American engineers, supervisors, planners, and inspectors working around the clock on the dam. It would be a political suicide if they bombed the dam and killed even one of these people.

Egypt doesn't really have to worry about Ethiopia controlling the water flow as they will be militarily more superior for the foreseeable future.

Ethiopia has long range missiles and SAMs at the dam site to prevent any bombing, so Egypt would technically need a series of attacks in order to fully destroy the dam which is highly risky of error.

Egypt will probably just continue to finance rebels and al Shabab to bog down Ethiopia until the dam is fully built.
 
Key Points and highlights of farmaajo 's visit to Egypt:

-strenghtening bilateral economic,security as well aviation ties.
-Egpyt air will start direct flights b/w cairo and mogadishu.
-ease of visa for diplomatic and service passport holders.
-egyptian diplomatic college to b e opened in mogadishu soon.
-increase in scholarships for somali students.
-cooperation in beeraha(agriculture),waraabka(water),tamarta(energy) and fishing.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
Turkey has nothing to do with Somalia's decision and Somalia's stance on Qatar won't change Turkey's policy on Somalia. Somalia under HSM sought closer ties with Egypt and he attended Sisi's inauguration at a time Turkey and Egypt had an all time high diplomatic tension, which resulted in Erdogan boycotting Sisi's inauguration. The mismanagement of Turkey's 4 million a month didn't cause them to cut the budgetary support. The bomb attempt against Turkish airlines, which was an inside job by airport employers according to the CCTV footages, didn't cause Turkish airlines to completely stop their operations. Turkey has a long term policy, Somalia messed up many, many times and the Turks are still here. Turkey will definitely not tie their destiny to Qatar.
 

Von

With blood and Iron will we reach the fatherland
They're not going to risk a political downfall by attacking a dam that could also help them in the long run. There's currently over 500 European (Italian and french) and American engineers, supervisors, planners, and inspectors working around the clock on the dam. It would be a political suicide if they bombed the dam and killed even one of these people.

Egypt doesn't really have to worry about Ethiopia controlling the water flow as they will be militarily more superior for the foreseeable future.

Ethiopia has long range missiles and SAMs at the dam site to prevent any bombing, so Egypt would technically need a series of attacks in order to fully destroy the dam which is highly risky of error.

Egypt will probably just continue to finance rebels and al Shabab to bog down Ethiopia until the dam is fully built.
Egypt could fund a third-party to do it, i mean governments around the world fund terrorism that itself says alot. You're looking at it from an Ethiopia or foreigners point of view, look through the eyes of the Egyptian 'government, they are about to lose nearly full control to the river in the first in their history. just to let you know there is no such thing as quick easy bombing, it's always a series with multiple platforms being used. Its hard to attack but it's even harder to defend
 
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I would agree if this was just Qatar vs UAE/SAUDI block but it's not! Turkey comes as the package deal, in fact Turkey and the UAE are bitter enemies and oppose each other everywhere as is Egypt, they have a cooling relationship with the Saudis

In foreign policy when your an absolute impoverished country rule number 1 is that you never sideline your best most reliable friend whom in a very short period of time have done more for us then all other nations put together in 30 years.

They are the only country serious about building the SNA backed up by their military base and their largest embassy in the world, not just mere hearsay we heard for the past 30 years from these GCC countries.

Your advocating throwing our only life line Turkey under the bus which is absolute suicide and for what exactly ? what has the UAE/EGYPT/SAUDI ever done for us inside the country other then subversion and arm terrorists ?

All the nonsense of livestock export market and Somali's doing business in UAE are all laughable, it's nothing more then trade which the UAE benefits from the most since the trade surplus is heavily in their favour, we have the cheapest livestock in the world which we export to them and also after the Iranian's they make the most money from us on their main port.

The Turks have tried to change this by internationalising Somalia's ports starting with Xamar, they have put in bids for Kismaayo/Bosaaso/Berbera until the UAE parasites blocked all of this through the GCC and through bribes, then went on a damage control to buy them all up and do a Yemen on them so it never competes.

This flipflopping mindless switching between super powers is what got us in trouble in the first place, if we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed for the future.
:qri8gs7:
 

Ducaale

President 2k20
I would agree if this was just Qatar vs UAE/SAUDI block but it's not! Turkey comes as the package deal, in fact Turkey and the UAE are bitter enemies and oppose each other everywhere as is Egypt, they have a cooling relationship with the Saudis

In foreign policy when your an absolute impoverished country rule number 1 is that you never sideline your best most reliable friend whom in a very short period of time have done more for us then all other nations put together in 30 years.

They are the only country serious about building the SNA backed up by their military base and their largest embassy in the world, not just mere hearsay we heard for the past 30 years from these GCC countries.

Your advocating throwing our only life line Turkey under the bus which is absolute suicide and for what exactly ? what has the UAE/EGYPT/SAUDI ever done for us inside the country other then subversion and arm terrorists ?

All the nonsense of livestock export market and Somali's doing business in UAE are all laughable, it's nothing more then trade which the UAE benefits from the most since the trade surplus is heavily in their favour, we have the cheapest livestock in the world which we export to them and also after the Iranian's they make the most money from us on their main port.

The Turks have tried to change this by internationalising Somalia's ports starting with Xamar, they have put in bids for Kismaayo/Bosaaso/Berbera until the UAE parasites blocked all of this through the GCC and through bribes, then went on a damage control to buy them all up and do a Yemen on them so it never competes.

This flipflopping mindless switching between super powers is what got us in trouble in the first place, if we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed for the future.
My nikka inquisitive finna be a Somali lawmaker right?
 

World

VIP
the recent gulf issue illustrated that Somali regions don't even have the same interests and that the SFG foreign policy doesn't represent the interests of other regions. Perhaps the SFG sovereignty should be limited to fiscal policies and defense policy.
You want each federal clan state to have an independent foreign policy?

That doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
 
Now I am 100% sure that you are not MX.
You keeping living in your dream world if you think farmaajo became president without doing that your a blind follower like the Puntland gang.

BTW I am HUGE supporter of farmaajo he's brought honor and good governance could you imagine if HSM was reelected,but unlike you somalis I go into things with my eyes open.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
You want each federal clan state to have an independent foreign policy?

That doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
Do you disagree that there is a clear differences in foreign policy interests between the federal states and SFG?

As for regions in other countries not having their own foreign policy, that's utter and complete bullshit. Belgium federated entities are compelled by the constitution to arrange their own foreign affairs.

https://www.clingendael.nl/sites/de..._discussion_paper_in_diplomacy_criekemans.pdf

Mogadishu does not represent my interests well, but Alhamdulilah we have the means to do that for ourselves.
 
You keeping living in your dream world if you think farmaajo became president without doing that your a blind follower like the Puntland gang.

BTW I am HUGE supporter of farmaajo he's brought honor and good governance could you imagine if HSM was reelected,but unlike you somalis I go into things with my eyes open.
There is huge difference between criticism and circling fake allegations without base, true supporters wouldn't spread cheap propaganda like this.
BTW, I also don't like his approach towards the regional states, I feel that he must be more foxy toward them. Faramjo is too clean and good to use hit under belt policy.
 
Do you disagree that there is a clear differences in foreign policy interests between the federal states and SFG?

As for regions in other countries not having their own foreign policy, that's utter and complete bullshit. Belgium federated entities are compelled by the constitution to arrange their own foreign affairs.

https://www.clingendael.nl/sites/de..._discussion_paper_in_diplomacy_criekemans.pdf

Mogadishu does not represent my interests well, but Alhamdulilah we have the means to do that for ourselves.

Very Self centred approach that doesn't think in long term goals. First you lost Somali people in south, then the Darood (OG&MX in JL), and before that the harti (warsangeli who joined The mountains). Later jour friend Dr Osman will come here to boast about how good you are in political world.
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

More law, less justice.
VIP
Very Self centred approach that doesn't think in long term goals. First you lost Somali people in south, then the Darood (OG&MX in JL), and before that the harti (warsangeli who joined The mountains). Later jour friend Dr Osman will come here to boast about how good you are in political world.
Only in your mind this is happening because you are insane nobody has lost anything and you don't seem to know Somali politics, it does not revolve around your clan, alliances can change all the time and we have good relations with Farmajo and Jubbaland. There would be no Jubbaland if it wasn't for Puntland, there would be not SFG if it was not from Puntland.
 
Only in your mind this is happening because you are insane nobody has lost anything and you don't seem to know Somali politics, it does not revolve around your clan, alliances can change all the time and we have good relations with Farmajo and Jubbaland. There would be no Jubbaland if it wasn't for Puntland, there would be not SFG if it was not from Puntland.

This was pre faramjo 's election, do you think Darood will trust MJ again after sabotaging faramjo!!!!!or Hawiye will even trust you again? You don't have any good relations with JL. Just because JL doesn't criticize you, doesn't mean that they support you. Accept the defeat.
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

More law, less justice.
VIP
This was pre faramjo 's election, do you think Darood will trust MJ again after sabotaging faramjo!!!!!or Hawiye will even trust you again? You don't have any good relations with JL. Just because JL doesn't criticize you, doesn't mean that they support you. Accept the defeat.
No one has sabotaged Farmajo, Farmajo got all the Puntland votes in his election

Farole is in Kismayo here he is received by Madobe last week and I don't give a f*ck about Hawiye's trust that's like trusting a neanderthal. As usual you are talking of your ass. Focus on your so called president Galayr selling himself to the highest bidder

http://hornobserver.com/articles/51...-Farole-Travels-to-Kismayo-to-Drum-up-Support

 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
Very Self centred approach that doesn't think in long term goals. First you lost Somali people in south, then the Darood (OG&MX in JL), and before that the harti (warsangeli who joined The mountains). Later jour friend Dr Osman will come here to boast about how good you are in political world.
You're very hateful and you have a severe cuqdad. It's very sad. All the clans you've mentioned don't have to like me, let them like someone else.
 
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