Faraax From The UK Has Had Enough And Lets Out His Frustration

[Chase]

Maybe I have higher expectations and aims for dadka Somali. After gen z I want us to be like the Jews, insular but still very well connected, supporting each other’s business snd Somali money flowing in our communities. Look at Kenya, Uganda and other African and gulf communities we live in. We help each other out economically and build. I want to keep that with the us living in the west however liberalism and individualism is a mantra Beaten in us since our arrival and sadly this collectivevism that’s very ingrained in our culture will deteriorate with generations to come

There's a lot of nuance to what you're saying though, I'd argue collectivism was our downfall. It was clan warfare that destroyed Somalia, we could've done with some individualism, it might have saved us. It's why you see a rapist or terrorist being protected by his own clansmen, even if there is incontrovertible proof that person committed the crime, who wants to live in a society like that?

Collectivism like the Jews/East Asians is ideal, but whatever we're doing back home ain't it. I'll admit there are some positives to it, but the negatives far out-weigh it.

 

[Chase]

Ah, same old excuse

none of that excuses those huge incarceration rates or disproportionate crimminal tendancies though, try again

It's really not, have you seen what the Syrians are doing now? They're deep in crimes, shootings, drugs and so on. Morrocans, Albanians, Pakis, Afghans have high rates of incarceration, but that doesn't paint the whole picture, overall they're not doing bad. The incarceration rates of Somalis is higher than I'd like it to be, but how low do you have to be to use that kind of point? There are 100,000 Somalis living in the UK, there are what? Less than 500-600 Somalis in jail? Have some perspective is all I'm saying.

 

[Happy_]

I find it very disturbing how he‘s talking about somali women as if they‘re objects. He looks depressed waliba miskiin. Caadi iska dhig nooh, it‘s not that deep and stop objectifying women. Not that many women marry out!

 

[Jaydaan]

I just want to know when women were deemed easy for getting into halal marriages. The whole mentality is a case of, if I or men who are like me (other Somali men basically) can't be married to you, then you're an easy ****.

Part of it is that. Part of it is frustration some men has how easy Somali women and families make it for ajnabi and don’t even ask probing questions they would with a fellow Somali. But most of that blame goes to Somali men our dads and previous generation who didn’t gatekeep their community

 

[Jaydaan]

1. No
2. I don't deal with disgusting bogans at all

90% of Aussie cadaan are bogans. They are descendants of British criminals. The numbers are not in your favour here. Maybe a bogan that mastered how to act normal?

 

[Juliet]

It's really not, have you seen what the Syrians are doing now? They're deep in crimes, shootings, drugs and so on. Morrocans, Albanians, Pakis, Afghans have high rates of incarceration, but that doesn't paint the whole picture, overall they're not doing bad. The incarceration rates of Somalis is higher than I'd like it to be, but how low do you have to be to use that kind of point? There are 100,000 Somalis living in the UK, there are what? Less than 500-600 Somalis in jail? Have some perspective is all I'm saying.

My point is, your ilk shouldn’t be yapping about our “bad behaviour”, since you lot are astronomically far from flawless. Fix your houses first, then y’all have every right to chat shit.

 

[Aegon]

Part of it is that. Part of it is frustration some men has how easy Somali women and families make it for ajnabi and don’t even ask probing questions they would with a fellow Somali. But most of that blame goes to Somali men our dads and previous generation who didn’t gatekeep their community

Exactly.

The problem starts with the fathers and families. They are the ones who are truly naive and push this "as long as he's Muslim" narrative. The fathers could stop this dead in their tracks, since there is no marriage without the consent of the wali. And the sad fact of the matter is, they are the prime enablers. When it comes to a Somali male, many of these fathers will grill them on their clan, education, work, etc. but when it comes to any old revert ajnabi it's "as long as he's Muslim".

 

[Angelina]

Part of it is that. Part of it is frustration some men has how easy Somali women and families make it for ajnabi and don’t even ask probing questions they would with a fellow Somali. But most of that blame goes to Somali men our dads and previous generation who didn’t gatekeep their community

I'm sorry, but i've seen and known Somali girls families letting their daughters marry unemployed Faraxs. Majority of those qaad addicted Faraxs all have wives, despite sitting in the marfish all day. Even these trapper Faraxs that have been to jail, get married in to the community with no issues. I don't see or understand what 'standards' Somali men are being hold to, when the vast majority of Somali men are able to find themselves a Somali bride regardless of their current status.

But what I do find idiotic and contradictory, is when some Somali girls complain about some types of Somali men, but then marry men who are the same or even worse. That situation is even more dire, as least with a Somali loser there are elements of the union that makes sense like family compatibility and language, but an ajnabi loser? You've lost in every way.

 

[Jaydaan]

Exactly.

The problem starts with the fathers and families. They are the ones who are truly naive and push this "as long as he's Muslim" narrative. The fathers could stop this dead in their tracks, since there is no marriage without the consent of the wali. And the sad fact of the matter is, they are the prime enablers. When it comes to a Somali male, many of these fathers will grill them on their clan, education, work, etc. but when it comes to any old revert ajnabi it's "as long as he's Muslim".

Our dad’s generation let us down. It’s really that

 

[Kreeper]

I'm sorry, but i've seen and known Somali girls families letting their daughters marry unemployed Faraxs. Majority of those qaad addicted Faraxs all have wives, despite sitting in the marfish all day. I don't see or understand what 'standards' Somali men are being hold to, when the vast majority of Somali men are able to find themselves a Somali bride regardless of their current status.

But what I do find idiotic and contradictory, is when some Somali girls complain about some types of Somali men, but then marry men who are the same or even worse. The situation is even more dire, as least with a Somali loser there are elements of the union that makes sense like family compatibility and language, but an ajnabi loser? You've lost in every way.

Exactly if you’re going for an ajnabi you might as well find one better than any Somali you can find

 

[Chase]

My point is, your ilk shouldn’t be yapping about our “bad behaviour”, since you lot are astronomically far from flawless. Fix your houses first, then y’all have every right to chat shit.

Ilk? It's one guy, and a few trolls and incels, vast majority of Somali men aren't online talking bad about Somali women, and that goes for the women too.

Just ignore it, this stuff is toxic to get into, getting into constant comparisons of which gender is worse just ends up making everyone look bad.

 

[Kreeper]

Exactly.

The problem starts with the fathers and families. They are the ones who are truly naive and push this "as long as he's Muslim" narrative. The fathers could stop this dead in their tracks, since there is no marriage without the consent of the wali. And the sad fact of the matter is, they are the prime enablers. When it comes to a Somali male, many of these fathers will grill them on their clan, education, work, etc. but when it comes to any old revert ajnabi it's "as long as he's Muslim".

A lot of xalimos will call they’re fathers racist and go to a shady mosque to get married without the fathers knowledge

 

[Odious Delirium]

Thing is, Somali male's criticism of how xalimos conduct themselves wouldn't be so pathetically laughable if they were top tier men in terms of productivity, good behaviour like cadaan and asians.... instead, they're among the worst behaved and most broke.

Ew.

Let's be real here there wouldn't be much of a difference in this gender war even if somali men where perfect in ever way. Asian and white men get this gender war stuff going back and forth on a much larger scale from there women. This gender war stuff has nothing to do with the general state of any men or women. Rather it has everything to do with the rise of feminism and the red pill.

This Is a current problem occurring for every group and most groups have it worse than us. So your generalisations don't add up.

 

[Bundasliga]

Majority of those qaad addicted Faraxs all have wives, despite sitting in the marfish all day.

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[lilmoon]

He is preaching to the choir. You're not going to impact the minds and hearts of young women if you constantly use words of objectification. It is rather dehumanizing as he talks about Somali women as objects he feels he no longer has prime control over that has lost 'value'.

If he is talking about the constant trash content that some Somali women are peddling which he is right to be concerned about, a better way to deter them would be to talk about deen, moral values and the hereafter. Appeal to them as people that should have priniciples rather than commodities you feel aren't 'exclusive' anymore.

Exactly, I really hate when people speak about women in general as having a "value" and that decreases and increases in "quality". There is a difference between a living human beings with intellect and understanding and an inanimate object that is bought and sold.

 

[lilmoon]

Honestly what’s so special about Somali girls? They are like any girls just as Somali boys are like any boys. Over 7 billion people in this world. None of us are special or rare. These Somalis need to stop caring about other Somalis and focus on themselves. Unless you are my family I couldn’t care less about any Somali. Just do you

Finally someone speaking with some sense. No one is better than anyone else, only with taqwa, and Allah created all humans and we all have one common ancestor. Your life is only sacred with Islam, not because of your race or lineage, because quite frankly that will not help you on the DoJ and its the behaviour of the people of Jahiliyyah.

 

[Khanderson]

That sound just like @HIBAQ123

 

[AllStarSaciid]

Thing is, Somali male's criticism of how xalimos conduct themselves wouldn't be so pathetically laughable if they were top tier men in terms of productivity, good behaviour like cadaan and asians.... instead, they're among the worst behaved and most broke.

Ew.

Well Asian women don’t want nothing to do with Asian men and Canaan men, well, they’re cucked in every single way imaginable.
So high productivity and earning power doesn’t really translate much if any when it come to women.

 

[hamar_oo_iidil]

Bro, I wish this qalanjo was my English teacher in school. But then again, something tells me she's the type that would be more interested in BLM issues than Somali issues

 

[Qeelbax]

Which woman?

I posted her before