Ethiopian hydropower projects on the Jubba River threatens both Somalia’s water and food security

[Farjano-Walad]

@Removed

Kililka shanaad is at the bottom in Ethiopia and NFD is at the bottom in Kenya, if you manage to prove to us that this is not the case I will stand corrected, but its impossible so take my advice and don't bother explaining away your unfortunate reality.

Regardless. It’s a region ravaged by war and trust me only 3 regions are ahead. Snnp. Gamebla and others are way way behind

Anyways. Shouldn’t you focus on your own house ?

your like a doqon whose own house needs painting and rapairs and comes to another mans house and tell himself what he needs.

this is the sadness of yuur cuqdad Dalalos. Go and worry about 50 cent bringing food to kids in gedo Marehan and go and built a toilet in dusamareeb

Marehan is the poorest clan in Somali east Africa.

if I was you I would focus on getting out the hundreds of thousands of Marehan refugees stuck in Dadhab refugee camp in Garisa

 

[Farjano-Walad]

this dam was ingaruated 10 months ago and is feeds into the Juba river and have decade till it starts drying up. this horible for Jubbaland period

100% bad for jubaland. A independent Ogadeniya would have negotiated with jubaland

but a country called Egypt with 5 times the gdp of Ethiopia with western military aid in over one billion could more or less do nothing

then you have buuns running around and halting jubaland becoming a state and developing and holding her legs since buunmarjo came in

on top you have a central Somali government who licks Ethiopians boots and wants use her to kill Somalis in certain regions when they protest and kawtows to Ethiopia like a donkey that gets shown the whip

what can you do when farmajo and co are so corrupt they cannot even dare to talk about the issue ?

atleast let Ogadeniya benefit and let them get some electricity out of Insha Allah. It depends on the negotiations skills of cagjar to get his pie of the cake.

but there is no military power Somalia has and to boot we have an adminstration whose sole aim seems to be to destabilise jubaland as long as they exist and so corrupt we have no idea where billions have gone. Farmajo gets four hundred million a year and I have never seen sharif or Hassan sheikh or farmajo speak to Ethiopia yet Tplf started this 11 years ago it’s not new

let’s be pragmatic. The best solution is a strong independent Ogadeniya but Somalis hate hate OG and would rather see Ethiopia control them. If we get our country no more borders with Ethiopia for them in Somalia. But they hate us

let’s focus on educating the future kids who will use the pen to get us out of this. And as we I mean Absame Kumade f*ck Somalis and their bs games. They are our worst enemy. Example look at the two monkeys taking a dig at us when their regions are the two poorest shyt holes in Somalia controled by hg and i-door yet all they do is talk smack about OG regions. Talk about Mis placed priorities

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

@Removed

Kililka shanaad is at the bottom in Ethiopia and NFD is at the bottom in Kenya, if you manage to prove to us that this is not the case I will stand corrected, but its impossible so take my advice and don't bother explaining away your unfortunate reality.

the afar region is at the bottom in ethiopia and for NFD? i don't know ask your people in gedo who cross the kenyan border to get education in mandera.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

@Farjano-Walad

I help my people in sustainable business and education, but what does this have to do with the discussion I am having with removed.

if you want to start a pissing contest instead of hiding behind your clan, what do you actually do for your clan ? insulting MX on Somalispot does not feed your people.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad

I help my people in sustainable business and education, but what does this have to do with the discussion I am having with removed.

if you want to start a pissing contest instead of hiding behind your clan, what do you actually do for your clan ? insulting MX on Somalispot does not feed your people.

Kulaha I help my people in blah blah no one wants to know your personal live keep it private doqonyahow

the only Time I ever see you dude is in OG themed posts insulting Them or Their Regions

but it’s ironic after eley Marehan is the biggest refugee in dadhab camp and the biggest least developed regions are dusamareeb and gedo

yet I never see an OG talk about buun regions. Get a life. You are seriously obsessed with OG dude.

murax from some net banned you for being a sheegat jarer. His words. Your obsession with OG is unhealthy.

removed was chatting to a dhulo yet your could bot contain your ass booty clapping to insult OG and their lands.

look in the mirror sxb. You are a refugee in OG areas in garisa and Wajer and dds cities. And KiSmayo which we cleaned after all the moryaan buun years.

get a live. It gets boring read the same shyt from you. Uff

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Kulaha I help my people in blah blah no one wants to know your personal live keep it private doqonyahow

the Time I ever see you dude is in OG themed spots insul Them or Their Reggions

but it’s ironic after eley Marehan is the biggest refugee in dadhab camp and the biggest least developed regions are dusamareeb and gedo

yet I never see an OG talk about buun regions. Get a life. You are seriously obsessed with OG dude.

I am not obsessed with Ogaden, I don't mention you lot or create thread about you as much as you do about MX, any fair observer can discern that much.

Once Madoobe is removed relations will return back to normal, perhaps then you will understand it isn't that deep, our adversary is Kenya not Ogaden, you are just their cannon fodder.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

the afar region is at the bottom in ethiopia and for NFD? i don't know ask your people in gedo who cross the kenyan border to get education in mandera.

Yeah we trade heavily with NFD, trade and cross border movement is mutually beneficial, however we are not under Kenyan subjugation and we refuse to be under them like you guys. If trade and movement is cut it will negatively affect both parties, but we trust in our government, I hope you lot trust in Kenyan government to subsidies your shortages.

Education is progressing in Gedo, so is business and agriculture

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Yeah we trade heavily with NFD, trade and cross border movement is mutually beneficial, however we are not under Kenyan subjugation and we refuse to be under them like you guys. If trade and movement is cut it will negatively affect both parties, but we trust in our government, I hope you lot trust in Kenyan government to subsidies your shortages.

Education is progressing in Gedo, so is business and agriculture

let me guess. Ethiopian subjugation is good because all the sudden they are a Marehan sub clan ? Your hypocrisy never fails to make me laugh

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I am not obsessed with Ogaden, I don't mention you lot or create thread about you as much as you do about MX, any fair observer can discern that much.

Once Madoobe is removed relations will return back to normal, perhaps then you will understand it isn't that deep, our adversary is Kenya not Ogaden, you are just their cannon fodder.

Ahmed will bot be removed by a buun threat where buuns cannot even field 500 men but need dhulo and abgaal to help them. Keep lying to your self. If farmajo goes Marehan will cry and is the Darood card and ahmed would have seen off 3 presidents whilst he was in office.

kulaha ahmed will be removed. Even if he goes an ogaden will replace since Ogaden lives in gedo and the two jubas and Marehan only reside in gedo.

my advise to you is forget KiSmayo. You have wasted much time. OG was too busy in the 1990s with dds. Focus on building KiSmayo for the rightful owner Ogaden has taken her back

 

[Caaro]

Liyu massacred canfar and got back the land they took from ciise

anyways, there was shooting going on in the region for years. Why would anyone invest when they have far more peaceful Oromia and other regions ?
Deep down you Somalis are just pissed OG is at the negotiating table in adis and would rather hunt them and kill them and lick Ethiopians boots

sure every Somali hates us. Every region from
Djibouti to xamar worked with Ethiopia to undermine us.

the two main rivers in Somalia will be damed and electricity supplied to dds already it has happened under Cabdi iley. Who do you think powers airports and homes in godey And qoraxey?

end of the day we have moved on. War is over. We will develop. We only fell behind the rest of Ethiopia due to wars.

focus on khaatumo which should be your focus instead of chatting rubbish about a region that does not concern Me

imagine if I moan about Tanzania all day long when jubaland needs me?

focus on getting your land back from isaaq and sort out your own development

I have never seen an Ogaden worried about sanaag or las Canod the way you spent time chatting about Ogadeniya.

You’re taking this larping thing too far. “focus on khaatumo” kulaha, this is an online forum. Anything I post on here will have no real benefits or detriments for anyone.

I make 2 posts about Ogaden and now I’m spending a lot of time chatting about you? Not to mention I didn’t even bring up the topic

 

[Caaro]

Cousin ignore the buun and the dhulo kid. Notice how they are the worst Darood clans licking boots for isaaq and hawiye.

deep down they are pissed OG is at the negotiating table.

I have never seen an OG speak About las canod and dusamareeb yet all these buuns and dhulo do is chat shyt about regions they have no political stake

we have been at war. Why would a Turkish firm invest in dds when she can invest in safer regions like adama etc.

we need to shut up. Get Onlf in power. Build and develop and raise the next generation of Absame who will use the pen to get our recognition Insha Allah

we are so behind NFD and these buuns are pissed because Somalis can no longer booty lick Ethiopia we have outsmarted them.

last time I checked these dams give Electricity to homes and airports in godey and qoraxey and we need more of them and it’s excellent as it means hawadly and buun areas will dry up. We starve them indirectly

f*ck Somalia. They have destroyed us and are worse enemy. Specially buuns and hawiye and all other qashin

we will smile as they cry and biiitch and develop our regions.

they are sooooo pissed off Onlf made peace and wanted you to be chased around dds

I advise the buuun dalalos to focus on how to built toilets for dusamareeb

Ethiopia gets billions in aid from the west. We need future educated OG kids who will go to the west and stop this money flowInsha Allah. But now we need to keep our head down. Smile at abiy and educate the future kids and develop them economically so they can sit as phd at the big table with western decision makers and sway them to OG interests

did you know the Americans and Russians both told siad barre to stop in Jigjiga and we will give Ogaden A referendum? Siad barre refused and MJ and dhulo told him if you do this OG will control east Africa. He deliberately moved towards harar which pissed of usa and Russians

U.S. Said to Propose Referendum For Population of Disputed Ogaden (Published 1977)

UN officials say US has proposed UN-supervised referendum in Ogaden to settle conflict between Ethiopia and Somalia (S)

www.nytimes.com

these are our forever enemies.

You keep talking about Dhulbahante and Las anod, you should be FOCUSING on creating world peace by making less posts about sanaag and more posts about whatever it takes to create real world change

 

[Removed]

Look the current admin in the region is not interested in helping somalis in actual effective way. the developments there are happening are bread crumbs compared to what other region are getting, tell me how many industrial parks are build in DDS compared to the 3 that were recently opened in Amhara region? the gas pipelines are managed by the gov in Addis so i don't know which leverage your talking about.

Im not repeating 91’ and sitting on my hands while chimping like the rest of the Somali race. “EPRDF” showed us how that worked out.

Its existence in our region is leverage its 1 billion dollar revenue into our budget is leverage. If you lay on your back eating one another in the bush waiting for the world to fix you are you not repeating Somalia

this dam was ingaruated 10 months ago and is feeds into the Juba river and have decade till it starts drying up. this horible for Jubbaland period

The dam isnt used for irrigation its used for electricity why would it dry up? Where is the water disappearing to?!

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Yeah we trade heavily with NFD, trade and cross border movement is mutually beneficial, however we are not under Kenyan subjugation and we refuse to be under them like you guys. If trade and movement is cut it will negatively affect both parties, but we trust in our government, I hope you lot trust in Kenyan government to subsidies your shortages.

Education is progressing in Gedo, so is business and agriculture

ok good for you but reality stands that your regions in somalia aren't as development as regon you liked to denigrate.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Im not repeating 91’ and sitting on my hands while chimping like the rest of the Somali race. “EPRDF” showed us how that worked out.

Its existence in our region is leverage its 1 billion dollar revenue into our budget is leverage. If you lay on your back eating one another in the bush waiting for the world to fix you are you not repeating Somalia

Nigga, look i'm not advocating for Ogaden to fight another war with Ethiopia in DDS but to wait it out until ethiopia goes bust.

The dam isnt used for irrigation its used for electricity why would it dry up? Where is the water disappearing to?!

https://jamhuriyadda.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/genale-dawa-iii-dam-threatens-somalias-water-and-food-security.pdf

 

[Removed]

@Farjano-Walad Its a good thing our understanding is more prevalent amongst those who matter @tyrannicalmanager is too depressing and doesnt want to engage with the world.

You’re taking this larping thing too far. “focus on khaatumo” kulaha, this is an online forum. Anything I post on here will have no real benefits or detriments for anyone.

I make 2 posts about Ogaden and now I’m spending a lot of time chatting about you? Not to mention I didn’t even bring up the topic

You never answered my question and didnt elude to when you will?

LA is the size of Dhobley give or take and has no proper roads or schooling. You dont even have a radio station something enjoyed in 1970 Somalia

 

[Removed]

Nigga, look i'm not advocating for Ogaden to fight another war with Ethiopia in DDS but to wait it out until ethiopia goes bust.

https://jamhuriyadda.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/genale-dawa-iii-dam-threatens-somalias-water-and-food-security.pdf

what would we be doing in the meantime taking government projects and subsidies I guess?

See how your starting to sound like me and @Farjano-Walad we will watch this Anglo-frankenstein collapse with a belly full of chinese loans and Ethiopias gonna pay for it

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

what would we be doing in the meantime taking government projects and subsidies I guess?

See how your starting to sound like me and @Farjano-Walad we will watch this Anglo-frankenstein collapse with a belly full of chinese loans and Ethiopias gonna pay for it
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dumbass this directly effect my people in Afmadow, why should OG suffer in jubbaland so that ethiopia could sell electricity to kenya and somalia.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

ok good for you but reality stands that your regions in somalia aren't as development as regon you liked to denigrate.

Ok so you ignore your own nation and focus all your energy on Somalia, fair enough, I can't blame you for wanting to distract yourself from that hellish existence.
Habesha garrison towns probably are more developed by a small margin, not that it benefits a subjugated underclass.

I am only reluctant to engage in that comparison because I consider it an insult to be compared to a slave, but if I crunch the numbers we might have a debate there, I just haven't done that, I have only looked into how far behind Kililka shanaad is in Ethiopia.

 

[Removed]

dumbass this directly effect my people in Afmadow, why should OG suffer in jubbaland so that ethiopia will sell electricity to kenya and somalia.

Ugaas we see that differently, Afmadow district doesnt border the Jubba nor do Ogadens usually farm. I also dont believe it will dry up and I dont see what else we could do about that if they have the capability.

Bottom up or Top down is a minor difference as long as we arent wasting our time

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Ok so you ignore your own nation and focus all your energy on Somalia, fair enough, I can't blame you for wanting to distract yourself from that hellish existence.
Habesha garrison towns probably are more developed by a small margin, not that it benefits a subjugated underclass.

I am only reluctant to engage in that comparison because I consider it an insult to be compared to a slave, but if I crunch the numbers we might have a debate there, I just haven't done that, I have only looked into how far behind Kililka shanaad is in Ethiopia.

Dhy do you talk like a women? i've met y women who are less passive agressive than you are. Yes development in Somali region development is lower to Tigray, Amhara, Oromo but higher than Afar because somalis are seen as foreigners in Ethiopian land, but the poverty rate in DDS is in fact LOWER than the region i just mention.

Somalis are politically marginalised within Ethiopia, livelihoods in Somali Region are extremely vulnerable - there have been three drought-triggered emergencies since 2000 - government spending in the region is low and basic social indicators are appalling. Yet data from nationally representative household income and consumption surveys reveal that Somali Region is the wealthiest (or least poor) among all of Ethiopia's rural regions, with the lowest poverty incidence and the highest consumption levels. In 1999/2000, Somali Region recorded a headcount poverty rate of only 38 per cent, less than the national rate of 44 per cent and considerably lower than the 61 per cent recorded in Tigray, the poorest region. In 1995/1996, Somali Region was the only rural region where average calorie intake exceeded the international norm for food security of 2100 kilocalories per person per day.

Better Marginalised than Incorporated? Pastoralist Livelihoods in Somali Region, Ethiopia - The European Journal of Development Research

Recent droughts have revived debates about the viability of pastoralist livelihoods in the Horn of Africa. Responding to a perceived crisis of pastoralist reproduction, the Ethiopian government is advocating sedentarisation, but critics argue that this is an opportunistic attempt to extend the...

link.springer.com

i talk about your region because this is somali forum and not an east african one and know for a fact that your peoples regions live in are far worse than the ones you liked to denigrate.
not only are these "slaves" better of than you but are less impoverish.