Ethiopia war on Puntland has Begun

[Thegoodshepherd]

Stupid Smoothie and his conspiracy theories, reminds me of the Arabs and Mossad

Alshabab are trying to create chaos in Puntland by killing all the capable administrators. They know cannot challenge Puntland on the ground, so they resort to killing police chiefs and businessmen. This has nothing to do with Ethiopia and everything to do with Alshabab continuing their usual reign of terror. No need for conspiracies to explain that which is very clear.

 

[Inquisitive_]

@Kalshaale

Your wasting your time with this Hyena, you can't reason with dupes, ignore him sxb, he is only here to derail this thread with his nonsense.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Low IQ Somalis and their tendencies to blame outside forces for their own failures. This is all a figment of your imagination, nothing concrete to back up your claims. Now you want to tell us the cause of lawlessness in the south is because of some behind the door geopolitical struggle? All throughout the late 1990s to the mid 2000s there was hardly any foreign interventions other than the occasional Ethiopian border incursions to fight al Itihad, so why didn't you guy makes peace then? If me not wanting to be ruled by a bunch of thugs in suits in Xamar means I have to join some "Anti-development Axis" then so be it, I will take my chances. The Base will be built regardless of whoever opposes it.

 

[Kalshaale]

@Kalshaale

Your wasting your time with this Hyena, you can't reason with dupes, ignore him sxb, he is only here to derail this thread with his nonsense.

Dully noted sxb.

 

[DeathWish]

It's simple geopolitics.

America interest is too keep the Chinese out of Africa from competing and starve them off oil so they buy them from OPEC nations to keep the petrodollar going, hence the active destabilisation whatever countries they are doing direct deals with, Libya 30000 Chinese oil contractors gone back home, Venezuela is gone, Sudan has lost it's oil rich south in this independence just to keep the Chinese out and civil war is orchestrated to keep them out.

Somalia Oil and Gas belong to Exxon for the past 50 years, extended by warlords they fund, so they are kept out by that contract, a decade ago when the Chinese started drilling in Ogaden 60 of their experts were killed by ONLF attacks so they left.

The American's cornered the Chinese containing them in the 'Mallaca' straits choke points between Indonesia and Singapore were all their trade comes past, were they can easily blockade them and did several practice runs before, the same way they blockaded the Japanese in world war 2

To counter this China became more aggressive and is implementing it's silk road strategy through land and sea, in the form of high speed rails, pipelines, deep water ports going through many countries with a win/win for each, this they hope will form a strong block against the USA empire and they can avoid the 'mallaca' choke point.

What brought all these powers to concentrate on the Horn of Africa, is the china silk road that's coming, via the Burma-Siri Lanka-Djibouti-Ethiopia route, the rail-roads were built to connect Djibouti to Addis, next is the pipelines with the oil.

The Chinese strategy is to make Kenya/Ethiopia the centre with Djibouti the gateway, this is why both countries originally foes to Somalia all of a sudden became friendly and Anti destabilisation because of this interest and massive crazy development by China, lending ridiculous money to them.

But this has pissed of the crumbling empire, they can't let them do this, they need the Chinese to pay for oil in dollars, otherwise the dollar will collapse, hence why you have the issue in the south-china-sea, they can't let them drill for oil in Ethiopia either, they are toast if they do, hence the destabilizations in both countries, even calling Kenyatta to the international criminal court to send him the message.

The Chinese originally wanted the pipe-line via Mombassa to central Africa, but the Ethiopian battalion of al-shabab was used against Kenya and NFD with repeated terrorist attacks to make it seem to dangerous, even high business people in Kenya accused TPLF of this dirty trick, the Chinese as a result went with Ethiopia instead, who is trying to stabilise South Sudan so the Chinese can resume their contracts, angering the American/UAE that are funding different groups against each other.

The UAE, with Dubai no longer producing oil and she herself soon gone, also needs to find her cake, but the Turks are stopping her plan, Djibouti refused her and also rejected her request for a base and is kicking her out of the port deal, Turks almost brought her to her knees by the Mogadishu port internationalization which she blocked via GCC states 2 years ago.

Eritrea was always at odds with the TPLF and hence it accepted a UAE military base, were she trains rebel groups against Ethiopia, that are now actively causing mayhem, it wants to do the same with the proposed base in Berbera, the TPLF have learned from their lessons in Eritrea, the Americans and also the Egyptian's are in on this. The Egyptian's because of the dam that is being built.

TPLF is openly threatening S/land with war and destabilizing P/land for a while now, they were both satellite states until the global players arrived changing the Geopolitics, she no longer has the powers she had nor the influence other outright war or detabilization, she tried to get Xidig (Ogadeen) as a speaker to rule out UAE candidate CC, but even failed on that.


It's the America-UAE-Eritrea-Egypt Axis using both Kulmiye/Gaas and backing CC/Jibril as stooges against the China-Turkey-Qatar-Saudi backing Sheikh Shariif coalition of Faroole/C/Nasir/Saacid and also Ethiopia and Kenya.

I agree with some of the things you said, but I don't believe Ethiopia and Kenya are helping Somalia. That is complete bs in my opinion. Think about it for a sec. If Somalia becomes a developed country, it will make much more money than both Kenya and Ethiopia because of it's long coastline and humongous amount of oil. When Somalia becomes developed, it will take back Ogaden and NFD. So both Kenya and Ethiopia both gain from the destabilization of Somalia. In my opinion, Kenya and Ethiopia will try and take over Somalia to make more money.

 

[Inquisitive_]

@TheUnderTaker

Build the base, I am actually really hoping you follow through with this, you don't know what patriotism is until you have shed blood for it and felt it's pain, you have done neither.

Notice how every group that has is on the same side here regardless of stupid clannish crap, I view this whole scenario as the majesty of God at play, it's his way of bringing you back to the fold.


@DeathWish

No were did I say they are helping, in fact nobody helps anybody, but because of geopolitical change and the massive developments and loans by the Chinese, a destabilised Somalia is no longer attractive due to the spill over threat it causes, especially radicalisation, they want their puppets of course if they can, but they can't, hence anyone that's friendly, today they are both toothless, bigger fish and players have entered.

They are pawns just like us, just a more useful pawn than us, but a pawn nevertheless.


@Thegoodshepherd

I wouldn't utter conspiracy if I were you, just recently you were writing the Shabab attacks was as a result of HSM government, a guy that can't even get himself re-elected or walk outside in safety.

Why have these letters been handed out in Gaalkacayo and Bosaaso ? and not Garowe? is your stupid clan hatred so bad that you are even blind to see this? why would they fight you as an army, if they can just assassinate your leaders like this? why all of a sudden? what has changed? why are you so stupid to connect the dots?

Did these man come from heaven? were does the intelligence come from? the sophisticated planning? and repeated ambushes and assassination? you really are dupe like that waraabe fella.

 

[waraabe]

A granny burner talking about patriotism

 

[DeathWish]

@TheUnderTaker

Build the base, I am actually really hoping you follow through with this, you don't know what patriotism is until you have shed blood for it and felt it's pain, you have done neither.

Notice how every group that has is on the same side here regardless of stupid clannish crap, I view this whole scenario as the majesty of God at play, it's his way of bringing you back to the fold.


@DeathWish

No were did I say they are helping, in fact nobody helps anybody, but because of geopolitical change and the massive developments and loans by the Chinese, a destabilised Somalia is no longer attractive due to the spill over threat it causes, especially radicalisation, they want their puppets of course if they can, but they can't, hence anyone that's friendly, today they are both toothless, bigger fish and players have entered.

They are pawns just like us, just a more useful pawn than us, but a pawn nevertheless.


@Thegoodshepherd

I wouldn't utter conspiracy if I were you, just recently you were writing the Shabab attacks was as a result of HSM government, a guy that can't even get himself re-elected or walk outside in safety.

Why have these letters been handed out in Gaalkacayo and Bosaaso ? and not Garowe? is your stupid clan hatred so bad that you are even blind to see this? why would they fight you as an army, if they can just assassinate your leaders like this? why all of a sudden? what has changed? why are you so stupid to connect the dots?

Did these man come from heaven? were does the intelligence come from? the sophisticated planning? and repeated ambushes and assassination? you really are dupe like that waraabe fella.

Walaal you have to know that both Ethiopia and Kenya k1ll the Somali population that lives in their countries. Ethiopia is in a civil w@r currently. They have k1lled many Amhara, Oromo, etc. Ethiopia is becoming destabilized as we speak because of the oppressive TLPF regime. Canuk said that the Kenyans put Somalis in c0ncentrat1on camps. The only ally that Somalia has is Turkey. China is not an ally but a business merchant that f!@# you over at any time like they did Srilanka. I know that China needs allies in Africa because the US does but in this time it difficult to see who will help us.

 

[Abdalla]

Unlike hutus, we in the northeast do not blame others for our shortcomings. Don't transfer your victim mentality to a nation that wants to be self sufficient.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

A granny burner talking about patriotism

La xalwa. Chill fam.

 

[Knowthyself]

I support destabilisation of Puntland if they don't cease the clan nepotism and tyranny

i hope you croak in your sleep you ignorant ass fruit bat looking mother fucker

 

[McLovin]

i hope you croak in your sleep you ignorant ass fruit bat looking mother fucker

Kkkkk may al shabaab keep killing your administrators and officials

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Kkkkk may al shabaab keep killing your administrators and officials

Pretty sure they killed one of your Dashishe business men awhile back in Bosaso. Do you really think they differentiate between MJs and you guys? To them any prominent person in Puntland is fair game, regardless of clan. Control your cuqdad, we're all in this together.

 

[McLovin]

Pretty sure they killed one of your Dashishe business men awhile back in Bosaso. Do you really think they differentiate between MJs and you guys? To them any prominent person in Puntland is fair game, regardless of clan. Control your cuqdad, we're all in this together.

Just trying to trigger the snowflake is all. Ofcourse I don't want al shabaab in Puntland, it's bad for business. That don't mean I will not condemn the sectarian efforts of MJ to the cause of Puntlandnimo whenever possible

 

[Canuck]

Walaal you have to know that both Ethiopia and Kenya k1ll the Somali population that lives in their countries. Ethiopia is in a civil w@r currently. They have k1lled many Amhara, Oromo, etc. Ethiopia is becoming destabilized as we speak because of the oppressive TLPF regime. Canuk said that the Kenyans put Somalis in c0ncentrat1on camps. The only ally that Somalia has is Turkey. China is not an ally but a business merchant that f!@# you over at any time like they did Srilanka. I know that China needs allies in Africa because the US does but in this time it difficult to see who will help us.

Read about Kenyan concentration camps for Somalis (women were raped)
https://www.google.ca/amp/mercury.p....org/item/20140407162525-4yvwx/?client=safari

 

[Canuck]

Walaal you have to know that both Ethiopia and Kenya k1ll the Somali population that lives in their countries. Ethiopia is in a civil w@r currently. They have k1lled many Amhara, Oromo, etc. Ethiopia is becoming destabilized as we speak because of the oppressive TLPF regime. Canuk said that the Kenyans put Somalis in c0ncentrat1on camps. The only ally that Somalia has is Turkey. China is not an ally but a business merchant that f!@# you over at any time like they did Srilanka. I know that China needs allies in Africa because the US does but in this time it difficult to see who will help us.

The Shifta War (1963–1967) was a secessionist conflict in which ethnic Somalis in the Northern Frontier District(NFD) of Kenya (a region that is and has historically been almost exclusively inhabited by ethnic Somalis[2][3][4]) attempted to join with their fellow Somalis in a Greater Somalia. The Kenyan government named the conflict "shifta", after the Somali word for "bandit", as part of a propaganda effort. The Kenyan counter-insurgency General Service Units forced civilians into "protected villages" (essentially concentration camps)[5] as well as killing a large number of livestock kept by the pastoralist Somalis. The war ended in the late summer of 1967 when Muhammad Haji Ibrahim Egal, Prime Minister of the Somali Republic, signed a ceasefire with Kenya. However, the violence in Kenya deteriorated into disorganised banditry, with occasional episodes of secessionist agitation, for the next several decades. The war and violent clampdowns by the Kenyan government caused large-scale disruption to the way of life in the district, resulting in a slight shift from pastoralist and transhumant lifestyles to sedentary, urban lifestyles.

 

[Canuck]

I agree with some of the things you said, but I don't believe Ethiopia and Kenya are helping Somalia. That is complete bs in my opinion. Think about it for a sec. If Somalia becomes a developed country, it will make much more money than both Kenya and Ethiopia because of it's long coastline and humongous amount of oil. When Somalia becomes developed, it will take back Ogaden and NFD. So both Kenya and Ethiopia both gain from the destabilization of Somalia. In my opinion, Kenya and Ethiopia will try and take over Somalia to make more money.

Kenya is introducing free birth control for Somalis in NFD as way of ethnic cleansing. http://www.somalispot.com/threads/bantu-kenya-promoting-birth-control-in-ne.15676/