i’m happy people are finally waking up. these oromos are pests whose antics need to be nipped in the bud right now. they kill somalis back in ethiopia and come to somalia to become beggars and drug addicts
Ethiopia reveals Naval Base & Coastal Settlement location!
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GaradShabeel
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The budget of Ethiopia is now way near 100 Billion. It's 801.6 Billion Birr for the 2023/2024 fiscal year, equivalent to 14.2 Billion USD.
https://www.fanabc.com/english/hpr-approves-federal-govt-budget-for-2023-24-fiscal-year/
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Kenyan budget is 23bion dolars almost 10bilion dolars more. Imo.
Here is link .
World
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Imagine an imperial nation that is hellbent on expansion and acquiring sea access not only having a military base and a port on your land, but also supplying you with all your food, all your electricity, income through their industries. You would be completely dependent on them.
In that scenario, why would Ethiopia want other nations to recognize Somaliland? It would go against their interest. But if you're the only nation that recognizes them and they depend on you, then Somaliland would become a client state to Ethiopia, which has 30x their population. It will only be a matter of time before there will be free movement of people between them, and they will annex you and incorporate you into their territory.
What's the difference between Somali Galbeed and Somaliland if both get the majority of their government budgets from Ethiopia?
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GaradShabeel
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As is the current state of their economy wasn't bad enough, now they'll need to fund a naval base, roads/infrastructure, military ships, reduced revenues from Ethiopian airlines etc. I wonder wether they've planned take a loan to finance all of this?
GaradShabeel
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Uae is funding u havent heard bro
GaradShabeel
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How do the UAE benefit from this? Why would they want to put their interests in Somalia in jeopardy?
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Have no idea imo
reer
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wherever uae goes there is trouble. sudan libya yemen etc. they want to have pro uae governments in the red sea but lack the manpower so they use their money to bribe the riffraff of society.
GaradShabeel
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It's too early say that UAE might benefit from such a move. Given Somalia's reaction to Ethiopia, it will lead to similar strained relations. I don't think they want follow in the same footstep.
They have already made deals to invest in ports in northern Somalia. All they have to do is to make sure that FMS/FGS is co-operating with them. They don't need naval base, when they already have a military base in socotra and friendly with the Yemeni gov't (or their 'puppets' STC) in southern Yemen.
In other words, they have already huge influence from both sides of the gulf of Aden.
World
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100 %.
Muse Bixi is also a power hungry dictator who is growing unpopular every day. What do you think he will choose between losing power, or getting the help of Ethiopians/Oromos to solidify his rule against opposition?
People think it's bad now that he's selling land/ports for potential recognition, but what about when he's helping further Ethiopian interests in Somaliland so that he stays in power?
GaradShabeel
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I agree that the UAE doesn’t favor strong states who can threaten their dominance of influence. But why would they want to risk detoriating ties with Somalia when they already control 51% of Berbera port with approval of FGS?
reer
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because somali elites will pimp their country even more. they might as well milk somali politicians like cows even more because why not? its like getting a discount and then getting buy 1 get 1 free coupon on the same product.
GaradShabeel
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I was expecting Muuse to want a base in the land of his clansmen to have control over it and lessen the possible backlash, but seeing how they agreed on Lughaya, I’m not sure how he thought he could pull this through in the long run.
He don’t care about increasing Ethiopian interest in SL, and would prefer it, as long as it keeps that region further away from Xamar. Even if it means becoming killika 6aad.
What a sad state of affairs when he’s causing the demise of the future generations of his people just for some temporary gain.
I feel much better now that I realized Lughaye is about 400KM from Jigjiga and 1000KM from Addisabab. It's massive area with major towns along the way. Borame, Gibeley and border town Wajaale. It's almost impossible to use this route to transport goods period.
Looking at the map, I noticed the city of Harirad which is just 4 km away from the Ethiopian border. Are they constructing a fresh route from Lughaye to Harirad and then to Ethiopia?
Looking at the map, I noticed the city of Harirad which is just 4 km away from the Ethiopian border. Are they constructing a fresh route from Lughaye to Harirad and then to Ethiopia?
unfortunately reer awdal are what we Somalis consider "dad qaboow". If it was Habar Gidir living there, then you know Ethiopia wouldn't have a nice time there. But reer awdal are not used to waging warfare.
Fake bravado. Reer Awdal were disarmed by the SNM under the disguise of national army. All their weapons where added to the Somaliland army. If HG where this brave, why are they only the clan to be enslaved by another clan for 20 years?
listen bro, drop the fucking qabiil name callling. It's qabiil that got us into this fucking mess.
let it go danyeer yahoow caqliga yar.
And it's true, Habar Gidir clan are fighters, awdal clan IS NOT, but they are the most educated qabiil in Somalia. They are the qabiil I would choose to lead Somali people. Habar gidir, Dhulbaante, Ogaden, those three clans are the fighters of the Somali race.
Habar Gidir because they fought Ethiopia in Mogadisho.
Dhulbahnate because of the daraawiish era.
Ogaden because they fought Ethiopia the longest, and the most expansionist Somali clan.
These are facts!
