Cuqdad ridden xabashi is what he is. Bootyclaps for anything that damages somali statehood. I can't believe this qashin was invited to xamar not so long ago.
Ethiopia recognizes NW secessionist movement
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Itsnotthateasy
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It was claimed in 1991.
Somaliland is long established as it's own country now and doesn't need any reason to secede instead you should be presenting arguments on why Somaliland should rejoin Somalia.
But if you insist I can think of least a couple of very good reasons to secede:
Somaliland will have it's own distinct character and can benefit from it's history of political stability. Being caught up in Somalia is a negative. An independent Somaliland would recieve more investment than as a region of Somalia.
Somaliland population will be protected from a dangerous and unpredictable Mogadishu which has a history of genocide and no signs of reform. Genocidal figures like Morgan are regularly seen with the top political figures there.
Somalia cannot be trusted to enter into agreements. It will break any agreement Somaliland enters for powersharing so there's maximum danger involved.
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What Somaliland should expect if they attempt any kind of union with Somalia is to be broken up and treated on a region by region basis, and then the regions futher disempowered. All power and taxes will return to Mogadishu and the region will be desolate just like before. Somalilanders aren't stupid enough to fall for this trick a second time so full secession is the only option.
The only possible workable deal is a reworking of the act of Union which would stipulate a confederation with the option of unilateral secession. So essentially we deal with Mogadishu as long they behave and it suits us. FGS might be able to persuade Somaliland into a confederation but this is unlikely.
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Yes, Somaliland is defacto independent, we already know that. However, there is zero chance of them being recognized by the UN since they fully support Somalia over Somaliland.
West Sahara, Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, all of which are far richer and more powerful than Somaliland have constantly failed to get recognition, despite some of these states being recognized by other countries.
Lol this happened before it means nothing
Ethiopia will never ever recognise Somaliland they have dozens of secessionist movements, their gov barely controls most of the country, etc
Ethiopia will never ever recognise Somaliland they have dozens of secessionist movements, their gov barely controls most of the country, etc
Itsnotthateasy
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We don't need it, like I've said to you many times before.
The US is holding the shit show of Somalia together for their own reasons and trying to block other countries from recognizing and dealing with Somaliland. They ran around Africa trying to block it. They said the status of Somaliland must not be determined externally, even though they did the same with their recongition of Kosovo's declaration of independence. It's just colonial hypocrisy who's time to end has come. Recognition and mutual cooperation will come soon enough as countries are starting to ignore the US .
With you lot It's either denial or shifting the goal posts. Just deal with it.
Btw the referenced article by DW is written by a xabashi
Absolutely no one is going to recognise SL there will only be more limbo
Itsnotthateasy
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Plenty of countries are ready to be the second, it's getting the first that is difficult.
That is malayacni and marmarsiyo. If these powers determined it was in their interest and an absolute priority for them like with South Sudan (which btw had decades of war and are totally different people) they would force Xamar's hand.
Lakiin as no one is going to do this, there will be no ictiraf. Additionally, Somaliland's current strategy is beyond stupid no one has become a country by begging the whole world for 33 years and saying 'look sir how democratic we are'.
Egal was told to get lost in 91 and there has been no change since as per foreign policy doctrines. Somaliland has no allies
Itsnotthateasy
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Lol. Reality doesn't please your mind but look at the grief Ethiopia has recieved from Somalia by trying to recognize Somaliland. Not many countries had enough interest to go through that.
Many will jump in second because there's no stress that way. It's just the way things work.
Somaliland thought it could deal with a new Somalia but it's a failure patchwork of Autonomous regions full of terrorists. The new Somalia is just corrupt and extremely dangerous. No need to get mixed up in that.
Better than Rashid abdi albeit bias. There’s been no explanation for the meetings we’ve been seeing between the NW secessionists and ETH. This is the best we got.Btw the referenced article by DW is written by a xabashi
Listen for once engage with the actual discussion. Leave aside political differences. I'm telling you the truth straight up based on reality.
You seem to be unable to distinguish between political rhetoric and diplomatic language and actual geopoltiics and serious plans.
If Somaliland was going to be recognised, it would have already been recognised! Frankly new countries are born through violence and forced intervention where secession is granted- Somaliland has just been begging for 33 years. Begging doesn't really give you a lot of leverage.
Also Ethiopia just did that mainly to test the waters and to distract from serious internal challenges. They immediately almost within the same day denied recognition was on the table, only a 'discussion about it' LOL.
Nobody cares about any recognised or functioning Somali state including an independent Somaliland which is why it has been given peanuts for 33 years and supported only in its function as an autonomous territory.
Dude when are you going to stop larping as isaaq and start being proud of your Bantu father from Xalane?
Some people can't see how recognising a region in a homogeneous country(majority) would lead to the balkanisation of their multi ethnic neighbouring countries. Never mind that development would lead to the total balkanisation of Somalia. With every sub clan declaring a country nvm the clans. How can't ppl see that's something unthinkable for IC, and it's the reason why they've kept this corpse together?
Ethiopia is going to gobble up Somaliland that's the only outcome it's hilarious you think SL has leverage over Ethiopia
His mind is fossilized bro leave him
Itsnotthateasy
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There's no need to go into the whole case, you are aware of the details.
We will wait and see what happens.
Itsnotthateasy
VIP
Because I don't buy bullshit? That's rude.
If you guys reach the level of rational discussion I might accept somethings you say but right now it's mostly lies and exaggerations. You'll notice a massive disconnect between the types of rhetoric on display here and those you might find in other neutral sources.
Like the themes of Ethiopian annexation (this is purely Somali narrative)
Other ones include - one clan can't be state - only a somali would argue that)
There's many others but you get the point.
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Conspiracy theories aren't your forte. Nothing is stopping other countries from recognizing Somaliland.
Itsnotthateasy
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Some boring liars or just ignorant people on this forum.
When the US takes a position. They normally do and say nothing in support of it, their awesome power simply speaks for itself.
Take the hint, they are saying Somaliland should not be recognized.
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