Epidemic of single Somali women

Self-reported data is trash. Rising STD rates are much better indicators.
Less teen pregnancies and youth engaging in risky behavior is also a good indication as well.

From what I was reading, STIs actually increased during the pandemic. I think due to being on lockdown and home bound people weren’t taking the precautions they would usually. COVID-19 scrambled and exhausted the healthcare system.
 
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Juke

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Less teen pregnancies and youth engaging in risky behavior is also a good indication as well.
Is it tho?

Something like 1 in 4 sexually adolescent girls has chlamydia or another STD, that's one of the main demographics that's been most driving the rise in new STD infections.
 
Is it tho?

Something like 1 in 4 sexually adolescent girls has chlamydia or another STD, that's one of the main demographics that's been most driving the rise in new STD infections.
From what I was reading, STIs actually increased during the pandemic. I think due to being on lockdown and home bound people weren’t taking the precautions they would usually. COVID-19 scrambled and exhausted the healthcare system.

Pre-Covid it was a lot lower and spiked in 2020-2021.
 
‘Could of would off’ isn’t thepoint here. What is a fact that of now is that the conditions of work is 10x better than the past. Actually read about work conditions and the law surrounding works for the working class before commenting.

People didn’t didn’t spend less time at work. That is inaccurate. What are you on about? Do you honestly think poor working class people worked 9-5 at factories? Do you honestly think working class people got Friday’s off like they now do at a lot of companies?

You literally have more free time than your ancestors could. Like I said actually read up work life in the past. There is no point debating if you can’t even acknowledge basic historical facts.
"Free time" isn't free otherwise you would take all 7 days off and it wouldnt affect your income.
 

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Mismatch of what men and women want.

Guys want a traditional wife that does most of the cooking and cleaning. But the biggest elephant in the room, is that many can’t afford that lifestyle. The average UK professional earns 45k and that’s after a number of years of experiences and it’s around 40k after tax. The cost of living is also rising. So logically speaking, how can these guys achieve that, without their wives at least chipping in a bit, and them helping their wives?

Women on the other hand want more of an equalitarian marriage in which the husband helps out with the house and kids. Those women also work and have been raised to be educated and take their jobs seriously. Many men see this as being inspired by feminism, yet those men don’t have issues with their wives paying for themselves, kids ect as it saves them money.

I really do think the Somali and Muslim community are living in LaLa land, especially the men. Call be bias, but if you’re well aware of the economic situation, you’d know that’s probably the biggest issue. But most of these kids, especially the little boys and girls who have a lot to say have never paid house rent in their lives and have no clue how much rent is in their city. Rent in big cities takes up like 70% of peoples pay check!
I think people overestimate greatly how many children people wanted in the past. My aunt had 9 kids but she didn't really particularly love kids or even like raising them, nor did she do out of some religious compulsion like Orthodox jews or amish do. It was just the expectation that you absolutely have to get married and have a boatload of kids while young.

The human population would probably be less than 1 billion if everyone in history had the amount of agency that people have today. But tbh, it says something that you need borderline societal coercion to get people to complete half their faith.

Most these Somali girls I see aren't childfree or unmarried out of principle, it's just that they don't know how to start looking or overestimate how much time they have left. IMO after like 35, it's pretty much over, and then the regret kicks in. It's not like there is gonna be a rainbow over this hill
 
Idk I think it’s because the expectations for women have increased while the expectations for men have decreased.

A lot of men nowadays want a woman who has education and/or a full time job so she can support half the bills all the while still remaining in this feminine role of cooking, cleaning, childcare it’s turned into a 24 hour job and an actual full time job on top of that. I’m not saying all of them want that but a certain number do absolutely.

I think nowadays the role of a man vs a woman has become very blurry and unpredictable.

Also I’m not sure if I want to bring children into this messed up world, the kids nowadays are practically brain dead from technology and you have middle school/high school kids who literally can’t even have a normal childhood because they fear they’re going to be recorded online and go viral for something bad. What type of childhood is that? We’re at the end of times, no point to bring kids into this world to suffer it too.
They should marry traditional men from other races. I couldn’t imagine being with a momma boy such a turn off.
 
I think people overestimate greatly how many children people wanted in the past. My aunt had 7 kids but she didn't really particularly love kids or even like raising them, nor did she do out of some religious compulsion like Orthodox jews or amish do. It was just the expectation that you absolutely have to get married and have a boatload of kids while young.
I agree with you, but at the same time I don’t. I’ve seen both ends. Older women in the Somali community who don’t care for kids but had to and women who continued to want lots of kids due to social expectations and seeing kids as a blessing. I’ve seen women who had financial and relationship issues but still actively try and get pregnant. Lowkey baffled by that mindset but realized my Western socialization is making me see it that way.

Also, due to Somali society being polygamous, I’ve seen older women and fob women go out of their way to have more so that their husbands don’t marry again. I’ve heard that reasoning countless of times although I find it to be moronic as I personally believe 8/10 times the man does it to get more sex or variety.
The human population would probably be less than 1 billion if everyone in history had the amount of agency that people have today. But tbh, it says something that you need borderline societal coercion to get people to complete half their faith.
Most these Somali girls I see aren't childfree or unmarried out of principle, it's just that they don't know how to start looking or overestimate how much time they have left. IMO after like 35, it's pretty much over, and then the regret kicks in. It's not like there is gonna be a rainbow over this hill
It’s not principle you’re right, but I’ve noticed they’re not as bothered though which I can imagine can be seen as worrying. I’ve got 30-something friends who are unmarried and don’t seem particularly phased. I think they’re well aware of the clock ticking as we’ve had that conversation and we have convos the average man isn’t going to be privy to, but ultimately many women don’t see the point of marrying any random Abdi or Farax as it will just lead to the toxic cycle of divorce and single motherhood which is rife amongst fob and uneducated women and men in our community who marry very easily and don’t have much requirements.
 
Is it tho?

Something like 1 in 4 sexually adolescent girls has chlamydia or another STD, that's one of the main demographics that's been most driving the rise in new STD infections.
got nothing to do with zinaa, has got to do with amount of sexual partners, use of protection, different sexual practices, did you know gay people make up about 60% of STD cases whereas only being 2% of population
 

Juke

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got nothing to do with zinaa, has got to do with amount of sexual partners, use of protection, different sexual practices, did you know gay people make up about 60% of STD cases whereas only being 2% of population
Shut up
 

Juke

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attash

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Yes, there are but at the same time the average woman ain’t marrying the average man for provision or power. Also you do know that terrible men mask their terribleness in the beginning?!
They try to, but usually they exhibit lots of red flags that women don't or refuse to notice, at least until it's too late.
Also terrible men can’t retain women.
Tell that to all the women out there who are in abusive relationships and still stay.
That’s what men forgot. They attract women via deception and then once their real character comes out, women file for divorce.

So yes, being a good man is the way in which you get and keep women.
Also, look at terrible men like drug dealers and other men in murky situations, what type of women are they getting? Do you honestly think that those men are getting the type
Of women the average man values? No.
Wealthy drug dealers are certainly not lonely. Neither are other well-off men who have terrible character.
Various studies show the type of characters of men women value. Altruism, openness and generosity
Yes, women value these things, but they also value other things like looks, wealth, and charm. When a man has the latter three, women are generally willing to lower their standards in the "altruism, openness, and generosity" department.
No, they don’t ‘rather’ be right someone online. Many don’t have the skills or the ability of socialize and anxiety and other issues are one the rise. If men had a preference for that we wouldn’t be getting a lot of dialogue about lonely men, the rise in redpill and incels shooting up places.
I don't mean men have an actual preference for that. I say 'rather', because these guys could give up their addictions and go outside, but they don't. They chose their lifestyle, when they could've chosen something else. Basically, I don't mean 'rather' in a literal sense.
 

Abaq

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Friends introduce each other all the time. Husband’s friends ect.
And how successful would you say this is? Most Somalis wouldn’t even consider a recommendation from their parents but many are open to recommendations from their friends.

I know many good guys and girls that anyone would be willing to marry but the issue is exposure. There just aren’t opportunities for them to interact. Because we don’t have the asian matchmaking culture, they essentially just stay there waiting for a miracle to happen
 

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