Egyptian Thinks She's Not Arab.

[Scipio Africanus]

Imagine a English person claiming he or she is a Celt or some other pre-Germanic/Anglo-Saxon British identity, it would be ridiculous because the ancestral component that has defined their current identity [culture, language e.g] came from their Anglo-Saxon ancestral component.

Same goes for the Egyptians who carry some Arabian ancestry from their early Medieval Arabian Liberators which has defined their current identity as an Arab one.

Despite that Egyptians do have much less Arabian ancestry than English people who carry high amounts of Anglo-Saxon dna [ranging from 40-60%]; the point still stands that Egyptians will always be viewed as an Arab people because of the deep Natufian ancestry that Egyptians & Arabians share. The guy in the video did touch on that shared Natufian ancestry, but he used the wrong term [Semitic].

 

[Step a side]

Imagine a English person claiming he or she is a Celt or some other pre-Germanic/Anglo-Saxon British identity, it would be ridiculous because the ancestral component that has defined their current identity [culture, language e.g] came from their Anglo-Saxon ancestral component.

Same goes for the Egyptians who carry some Arabian ancestry from their early Medieval Arabian Liberators which has defined their current identity as an Arab one.

Despite that Egyptians do have much less Arabian ancestry than English people who carry high amounts of Anglo-Saxon dna [ranging from 40-60%]; the point still stands that Egyptians will always be viewed as an Arab people because of the deep Natufian ancestry that Egyptians & Arabians share.

Natufians existed before Arabs and Egyptians!

 

[Lebron James]

You're a black african, maxa kaa galay

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Natufians existed before Arabs and Egyptians!

Exactly, the guy in the video tried to explain why Egyptians are viewed as an Arab people by stating that Arabians, Egyptians and North Africans all share a common ancestry, but he mislabelled it as 'semitic' when he should've called it Natufian.

All of these populations look like each other thanks to this super ancient component.

 

[Lahaine]

They are assimilated Arabs they speak Arabic and they have also mixed with the Arabs for the last 1400 years so now there blood is completely arab. Same with the Lebanese and Moroccan people.

 

[Nin123]

Imagine a English person claiming he or she is a Celt or some other pre-Germanic/Anglo-Saxon British identity, it would be ridiculous because the ancestral component that has defined their current identity [culture, language e.g] came from their Anglo-Saxon ancestral component.

Same goes for the Egyptians who carry some Arabian ancestry from their early Medieval Arabian Liberators which has defined their current identity as an Arab one.

Despite that Egyptians do have much less Arabian ancestry than English people who carry high amounts of Anglo-Saxon dna [ranging from 40-60%]; the point still stands that Egyptians will always be viewed as an Arab people because of the deep Natufian ancestry that Egyptians & Arabians share. The guy in the video did touch on that shared Natufian ancestry, but he used the wrong term [Semitic].

Egyptian speaks Arab so they are Arab pretty simple. Only the new Gen z have problems with it if you ask their parents they will tell you they are Arab 100%.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

You're a black african, maxa kaa galay

Why do you behave like you're 100% Black African? Activate that Natufian spirit sxb.

 

[GaradShabeel]

They are assimilated Arabs they speak Arabic and they have also mixed with the Arabs for the last 1400 years so now there blood is completely arab. Same with the Lebanese and Moroccan people.

Morocco aren’t even slightly comparable with Egypt or Lebanon, who’ve been in contact with Arabs and became ‘Arabized’ centuries/millennia ago.

Morocco still have an indigenous people (Amazigh) who constitute a large size of the population, where many still speak their native language and identify as such.

It’s mainly urbanized Moroccans who do identify with Arab, at least culturally and linguistically Arab. Which increased and solidified when the country underwent an intentional Arabization campaign launched by their gov’t after their independence.

 

[Step a side]

They are assimilated Arabs they speak Arabic and they have also mixed with the Arabs for the last 1400 years so now there blood is completely arab. Same with the Lebanese and Moroccan people.

Nah Arabs didn’t mix with them like that. Egyptians, Moroccan, Lebanese became Arabs culturally not genetically.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Morocco aren’t even slightly comparable with Egypt or Lebanon, who’ve been mixed and ‘Arabized’ centuries/millennia ago.

Morocco still have an indigenous people (Amazigh) who constitute a large size of the population, where many still speak their language and identify as such. It’s mainly urbanized Moroccans who do identify with Arab. Which has increased and solidified, when the country underwent an intentional Arabization campaign launched by their gov’t after their independence.

I heard the Arabization of Morocco and Algeria was actually quite recent with State-sponsored Arabization in full-swing via the education system and the crack-down on speaking Berber languages in the cities.

Tunisia was the only proper Arabised Maghrebi country and have the highest amount of Arabian ancestry amongst the Maghrebis from the early Caliphal period.

 

[GaradShabeel]

I heard the Arabization of Morocco and Algeria was actually quite recent with State-sponsored Arabization in full-swing via the education system and the crack-down on speaking Berber languages in the cities.

The indigenous language(s) were restricted in official use and discriminated against to various degrees. Especially an official recognition.

They’ve had ‘Berber springs’ over the years to end the suppression of language and culture of Berber identity. Which has recently been associated with separatism too.

Tamazigh only became the official and *equal* language to Arabic 2016 in Algeria and 2011 in Morocco.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

The indigenous language(s) were restricted in official use and discriminated against to various degrees. Especially an official recognition.

They’ve had ‘Berber spring’ to end the suppression and language of Berber identity. Which has recently been associated with separatism too. Tamazigh only became the official and *equal* language to Arabia in Algeria in 2016.

Funnily, if you were to ask the average Algerian to read public signs written in the Berber script they would have no clue. It's a complete waste of money to placate to the Berber Nationalists.

 

[Qeelbax]

Well she isn’t an Arab, she is a Muslim Copt or Berber

 

[Qeelbax]

Funnily, if you were to ask the average Algerian to read public signs written in the Berber script they would have no clue. It's a complete waste of money to placate to the Berber Nationalists.

That doesn’t matter because that’s their native language that they were forced to let go of, and actually many Algerians and Moroccans speak Berber languages. You’d be shocked. Karim Benzema doesn’t know Arabic, he’s Kabyle.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Well she isn’t an Arab, she is a Muslim Copt or Berber

Read my English/Anglo-Saxon example in my original post and you'll understand why it's ridiculous for an Egyptian to abandon their Arab identity.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

That doesn’t matter because that’s their native language that they were forced to let go of, and actually many Algerians and Moroccans speak Berber languages. You’d be shocked. Karim Benzema doesn’t know Arabic, he’s Kabyle.

Less than 30% of Algerians can speak a Berber language and all Berber-speaking Moroccans are Bilingual with the Arabic language. The Arab identity can never be removed from Northern Africa.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Funnily, if you were to ask the average Algerian to read public signs written in the Berber script they would have no clue. It's a complete waste of money to placate to the Berber Nationalists.

Yeah, because Berber languages was manily oral languages. Mainly due to suppression and lack of literacy opportunities for its speakers.

It was only introduced as a written (formal) language when they gain official recognition post-2010.

With that said, it’s not a waste of language to learn your native and indigenous language properly. In fact, restricting the languages *rightfully* increased Berber nationalism and turned out to be the main factor giving them a momentum.

The gov’t only have themselves to blame

 

[Qeelbax]

Read my English/Anglo-Saxon example in my original post and you'll understand why it's ridiculous for an Egyptian to abandon their Arab identity.

Why would it be ridiculous?

Acknowleding your real ancestry and history doesn’t mean you have to give up being Arab, some do and they have a right. It’s not like they are real Arabs anyway. Real Arabs remind them that they aren’t actually Arab anytime they mess up.

Berbers are more religious than Arabs in North Africa, so I support them.

 

[Step a side]

Sinai peninsula of Egypt is the only place with Arabian Bedouin tribes. Rest of Egypt is native Egyptian stock. Large cities like Alexandria, Cairo might have few people people with Arab, Turks, Greeks, Circassian ancestry but Egypts as a whole is Egyptian especially the country sides. In the extreme south east you have nomadic people who are genetically closer to us than Saudis called Beja. They are Cushitic people like us. The Nubians farmers are similar to other groups further south in Sudan.

Arabs are confined to the Arabian peninsula up to the Syrian desert, Negev desert, southern Iraq, Jordan. Some of them spill over slightly into North east Africa in places like eastern Sudan and Eritrea as well as Iran across the Hormuz .

Arabs did settle in large cities of the Levantine, Iberia and North Africa but they were not significantly enough to alter the genes of the local populations.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Yeah, because Berber languages was mostly spoken only. Mainly due to suppression and lack of literacy opportunities for its speakers.

It was only introduced as a written (formally) language when they gain official recognition post-2010.

With that said, it’s not a waste of language to learn your native and indigenous language properly. In fact, restricting the language *rightfully* increased Berber nationalism and the main factor giving that cause a momentum. The gov’t have only got themselves to blame

The vast majority of Algerians only regard Arabic as their native language, since most of them Identify as Ethnic Arabs. There will be no increase in Berber speakers from Arab Algerians suddenly wanting to learn a useless berber language.