Dungans of Kazakhstan

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Dungans are a very interesting people. They number around 200k and are actually Mandarin speaking Han Chinese muslims from Gansu and mostly Shaanxi that exiled themselves to the Russian empire in the 19th century after the failed Hui rebellions.

The Muslim population of Shaanxi province then was early 10% of the total population, but the ethnic reprisals after their defeat saw their proportion of the population reduced, even a century and a half later to a mere 0.4%. Every Muslim community on the left bank of the yellow river was almost entirely wiped out.

What is interesting about Dungans is that these are the most un-Chinese like Chinese in existence with extremely high degrees of religious observance, high fertility and zero interest in assimilation of any kind in Kazakhstan despite sharing a faith. Complete social separatists with more traditionalist oriented family culture.


 

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The world is filled with such cool history!
 

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What?
I thought they were Hui and not Han?
I was right:
The Dungans are Chinese Muslims who call themselves Hui. They are a lesser-known Chinese diaspora who live in China's neighboring Central Asian states
They're usually mixed with Turkics and some are mixed with Afghanis, their ethnicity formed during the silk trade when Islam was brought over and they started mixing with traders, I think they use their own variant of perso-arabic to write their languages as opposed to hanzi
 
Interesting enough although the Dungans speak Mandarin they along with other NW minority Muslims (Salar, Dongxiang, Bonan) from Qinghai and Gansu are more related to Tibetans rather than Hans. In some ways they're muslim Tibetans.
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Interesting enough although the Dungans speak Mandarin they along with NW minority Muslims (Salar, Dongxiang, Bonan) from Qinghai and Gansu are more related to Tibetans rather than Hans. In some ways they're muslim Tibetans.
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Tibet + Islam = Based. Haaye, let's set sail for NE India, brave the Himalayas and bring Islam to our soon to be brothers.
 

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Interesting enough although the Dungans speak Mandarin they along with other NW minority Muslims (Salar, Dongxiang, Bonan) from Qinghai and Gansu are more related to Tibetans rather than Hans. In some ways they're muslim Tibetans.
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Being Han seems to be more about just living in China than anything else. There are millions of Uyghurs and Salars who assimilated into Hui identities (Y-DNA evidence confirms this as around 20-30% of Hui Y-DNA is non-Sino-Tibetan.)
 
Being Han seems to be more about just living in China than anything else. There are millions of Uyghurs and Salars who assimilated into Hui identities (Y-DNA evidence confirms this as around 20-30% of Hui Y-DNA is non-Sino-Tibetan.)

As @Shimbiris says the only ethnicities in China are Han and soon to be Han :mjlol:

I'd imagine most of that foreign y-DNA is from Persian merchants that settled down during the silk road period rather than Uyghurs or other central asians
 
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