Drones seized by NISA intended for attacks in Qardho, Puntland

[𐒈𐒈𐒆𐒍]

Allah will judge us all with fairness. AUN Siyaad did alot of good too. No leader is perfect, 30 years of lawlesssness are testement to his virtues. SSDF failed and kissed his ring at the end. Sad but true.

Sida loo amaano afweyne iyo taagerada indholaanta reeraha guulwadaha uu dhisan isagoo iyo waxqabkiisa iyo sidii meel cidlo kaa cararteen weliba isagoo guurigisa iyo deegaankiisa jooga eey Kenyatti badbaadisay tolka gurmad iska daa kon
B biyo uu kaa waaye wax iis galaya maha

Abo oo Nabigina oo waxas qabtay oo barwaaqo iyo janno ini dhisay sida iin lala dhaqmo waba yaaab qiimo ceel biyo siisan gurmad difaac dhimasho 100+ uu waaye ABO Jalle oo marku tol waaye keenyatti uu naxay taxi uu dirtay boonta iyo reero guulwades MaKe it make sence

 

[Murax]

Ummm who controls Nisa?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Pwyneth Galtrow don't let @TekNiKo get away with his id44r talking point. Post abdillahi yusuf, we couldn't agree on what to do because we didn't trust ethiopia agenda of somalia and we didn't have anyone to replace abdillahi yusuf that brought confidence. That's why siyad barre took advantage of it, he called in the wadani majertens and said 'ethiopia' isn't your friend, they just locked up your leader.

But at no time did we support siyad, we took a neutral stance and focused on siphoning out the port and road project.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@Pwyneth Galtrow it's sad @TekNiKo is using id33r talking points about SSDF collapse. It's well known SSDF collapsed because Abdillahi Yusuf was arrested by ethiopia for not agreeing to Ethiopia pushing it's border into galdogob. That's a true wadani, u won't see the other leaders at the time being arrested by ethiopia because they served their interest.

The other thing is, we got a sweet deal from siyad barre, the national highway and port. Notice he wanted to negiotate with SSDF but he never wanted to negiotate with SNM-USC, he knew clearly these groups were serving the interest of ethiopia not SSDF whom the ethiopians even arrested. Abdillahi Yusuf was smart man, he knew Ethiopia was backing so many groups against siyad barre and there was no 'agreement' between these groups on what to do 'post siyad barre'. So it's obvious to anyone, ethiopia wanted a no government solution or else it would've forced the rebel groups to discuss what a post siyad barre somalia would like.

Screw SNM AND USC waa cadowga dalka, these assholes cost us 30 years of wasted time

The Port and Highway was the best thing that came out of the war against the deranged despot.

They even stole Abdulahi Yusuf AUN's slogan "Nabad iyo Nolol"- this shameless act alone speaks volumes about what kind of people we are dealing with here.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Pwyneth Galtrow I am adamant if siyad secured majerten support, he would've still been in power today as he only relied on dhulbahante n marehan becuz ogaden split and joined the opposition rebel groups. We took the horrendous route of neutrality because we couldn't agree on a post abdillahi yusuf leader and who would we go too? obviously not ethiopia they just arrested 'yey' and were clearly anti ssdf becaus we would never agree to a civil war in Somalia post siyad barre.

We demanded all rebel groups discuss a post siyad model and that's when snm-usc did their irir project of dividing the nation into north/south and sharing power that way.

 

[Chase]

One thing I don't like about MX - at least the ones online - is the way they try to pass themselves off as 'wadani' and how they praise Barre, Barre used the state to enrich his clansmen and expanded Marehan land by displacing rival clans, till this day they occupy OG land in the Jubas and they have the gall to proclaim themselves as nationalists in the same breath, it boggles the mind.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@Pwyneth Galtrow I am adamant if siyad secured majerten support, he would've still been in power today. We took the horrendous route of neutrality because we couldn't agree on a post abdillahi yusuf leader and who would we go too? obviously not ethiopia they just arrested 'yey' and were clearly anti ssdf becaus we would never agree to a civil war in Somalia post siyad barre.

We demanded all rebel groups discuss a post siyad model and that's when snm-usc did their irir project of dividing the nation into north/south and sharing power that way.

Oh totally.

Same thing that is happening now. Things don't really change do they?

The only reason why Sharmaajo's fans scream Deni and Madoobe's names, day in, day out, is because they know that the biggest roadblock in their quest for Somali domination is Puntland and of course, Jubbaland. Sharmaajo literally had the Hawiye Federal Regions in his pocket and was sending them to do his bidding like his errand boys.

But Deni and Madoobe said;

 

[DR OSMAN]

One thing I don't like about MX - at least the ones online - is the way they try to pass themselves off as 'wadani' and how they praise Barre, Barre used the state to enrich his clansmen and expanded Marehan land by displacing rival clans, till this day they occupy OG land in the Jubas and they have the gall to proclaim themselves as nationalists in the same breath, it boggles the mind.

The marehan are becoming weak debaters like @TekNiKo who in the world uses id33r talking points. This is the same clan that says they defeated faqash and somalia and then on another hand they are screaming they were 'genocided' loooool, that itself is a contradiction of their debates. In addition to their madness, we all know dhulos-marehan were the only active fighters in the north not Somalia nor Darod.

Talk about SL madness, they contradict themselves whenever they discuss anything and it's a shame @TekNiKo is reverting to snm talkng points about SSDF as they have no clue what happened.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

One thing I don't like about MX - at least the ones online - is the way they try to pass themselves off as 'wadani' and how they praise Barre, Barre used the state to enrich his clansmen and expanded Marehan land by displacing rival clans, till this day they occupy OG land in the Jubas and they have the gall to proclaim themselves as nationalists in the same breath, it boggles the mind.

They are cowards who cannot do anything on their own, look at Gedo, why does this one region that they claim dominance in, have so many different peacekeeping troops? You have Kenyans, Ethiopians and "SNA" which is mostly Hawiye men.

Honestly, I would die of shame if I was one of them. How do you dare come onto Somali forums and try to debate, when 2 countries and another qabiil have to keep your women and children safe?

Their one skill, is the art of propaganda, pretending to be 'wadani' and pretending to NOT be a small qabiil is what they have mastered.

 

[Chase]

They are cowards who cannot do anything on their own, look at Gedo, why does this one region that they claim dominance in, have so many different peacekeeping troops? You have Kenyans, Ethiopians and "SNA" which is mostly Hawiye men.

Honestly, I would die of shame if I was one of them. How do you dare come onto Somali forums and try to debate, when 2 countries and another qabiil have to keep your women and children safe?

Their one skill, is the art of propaganda, pretending to be 'wadani' and pretending to NOT be a small qabiil is what they have mastered.

Another thing that at times infuriates me is when they complain about kablax, as if they didn't use MOD including Isaaq and other Somalis against us.

 

[IPushFatKids]

@Pwyneth Galtrow @TekNiKo you can't compare PL security forces to Hamar trained ones. Shabab openly run courts and collect taxes in the open in mogadishu and the south, if Somali troops in Hamar were so well trained, u wouldn't need amisom and u wouldn't be hiding out in villa somalia and control one street in the city. Even you as a b22n marehan don't trust Somali trained troops.

PL security forces crushed shabab in conventional war in 2016 in suuj-garacad-garmaal. U will never hear of an explosion anywhere near Puntland, because it's always foiled by our superior intelligence sector. Where-as your NISA, every second day there is a bloody explosion lol which proves they are weaker then PL. With the whole world support you can not control one city, yet PL with minimal support controls 30% of Somalia territory

This doesn’t really make sense.

Al shababs lack of success in pl does not indicate pl has better trained/equipped forces than Mogadishu, if that were the logic Somaliland would be the most powerful army in Somalia.

shabab just more native and active in the south.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Another thing that at times infuriates me is when they complain about kablax, as if they didn't use MOD including Isaaq and other Somalis against us.

It really bothers them that they are not a large clan and to add insult to injury, they have one imaginary brother called 'Facaaye'.

Not a single 'Kablalax' clan relies on another Kablalax clan, that is the truth. We are just smart enough not to kill each other in our ancestral city, Kismayo. It really bothers them that the natives of Waamo put a stop to their theft.

 

[IPushFatKids]

Allah will judge us all with fairness. AUN Siyaad did alot of good too. No leader is perfect, 30 years of lawlesssness are testement to his virtues. SSDF failed and kissed his ring at the end. Sad but true.

Siyad has zero redeeming qualities, esp for someone who has ruled for 20 yrs. infrastructure was still mostly non existent. And was all round lunatic. His dream was greater Somalia but his actions still reverberate today & may lead to a potential breakup of the country.

pick any random Somali to rule those years and I’d better my last dollar you’d more likely than not get better results.

 

[IPushFatKids]

LOL

The fact that Puntland has repeatedly crushed AlShaydan, not only in Puntland but also as far as in Galmudug (2017 and present day), shows that Puntland is indeed superior militarily to many other Somali groups.

What else is it called when you defeat a terror group? LUCK?

Where al shabab gonna hide in pl? In south they go back to their own homes.

they were fighting different territory. Mogadishu army would also destroy shabab in a conventional battle, and usually do in that setting. But most their fights against shabab is not head to head but a Guerilla insurgency which is very difficult for any army.

pls don’t kid yourself, pl has nothing on Danab. This is coming from reer PL, OM

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Where al shabab gonna hide in pl? In south they go back to their own homes.

they were fighting different territory. Mogadishu army would also destroy shabab in a conventional battle, and usually do in that setting. But most their fights against shabab is not head to head but a Guerilla insurgency which is very difficult for any army.

pls don’t kid yourself, pl has nothing on Danab. This is coming from reer PL, OM

The fact that AlShaydan, despite their constant attacks and invasion attempts, has never managed to capture our land is evidence enough of Puntland's superiority on the battlefield. Call it whatever you want, make up any excuse you want.

 

[IPushFatKids]

The fact that AlShaydan has never managed to capture our land is evidence enough of Puntland's superiority on the battlefield. Call it whatever you want, make up any excuse you want.

bro but you have to make this argument go round.

does the fact al shabab never captured territory in Somaliland mean Somaliland has the most superior military in the country? Or does that only apply to Puntland?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

bro but you have to make this argument go round.

does the fact al shabab never captured territory in Somaliland mean Somaliland has the most superior military in the country?

Certain Puntland MPs want to place Somaliland on the 'terror list'.

That's all I'll say on this matter.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This doesn’t really make sense.

Al shababs lack of success in pl does not indicate pl has better trained/equipped forces than Mogadishu, if that were the logic Somaliland would be the most powerful army in Somalia.

shabab just more native and active in the south.

Shabab brought 10% of it's manpower to suuj-garacad-garmaal in 2016 nearly 700 soldiers. They were decimated within 2 days. PL security forces always foil bomb attacks in Bosaso and Galkacyo, shabab are attempting to bomb our people just as much as anywhere elses, just as much as Mogadishu but Mogadishu NISA are not well trained and to deny that is silly, why would so many attacks occur in Mogadshu if NISA is so savvy intelligence wise yet PSF foil so many attacks in Puntland before it happens. To have strong intelligence capability, your job is to prevent terror acts and we don't see that in Mogadishu.

Somaliland stability is well known they are a 'terror haven' and they pay shabab and house them in Erigavo n Burco, that's why shabab doesn't attack them just like shabab doesn't attack ceelbur, harardheere, ceeldheer, bay, bakool, etc.

That's why no American CIA fund or train SL, it's similar to helping ceelbur or bay and bakool

 

[Yusuf M]

bro but you have to make this argument go round.

does the fact al shabab never captured territory in Somaliland mean Somaliland has the most superior military in the country? Or does that only apply to Puntland?

One could also argue that SL is lucky to have a peaceful and stable Puntland region as its neighbor. Can you imagine if SL had Galmuran State or Konfuur wareer State as a neighbor?

 

[Yusuf M]

He doesn't have the athleticism to be a proper warlord. All Somali warlords had a level of physical strength to them.

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God damn, look at Farmajo's hairline. Them Turks gave him a good deal.