Dr Osman - Islamic Empire Today. Is It Possible?
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AbdiGeedi
To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
Unfortunately, self-belittling is strong among Somalis.
Nobel prize award is European tool. Not surprisingly most winner are from Europe and European dominated colonies and that includes the Ashkenazi Jews whose actual homeland is Europe.
There were and are plenty of scholars in Muslim countries. They are just outside the system.
1. Mohammad Abdus Salam - Nobel prize winner in Physics from Pakistan
2. Aziz Sancar - Nobel prize winner in Chemistry from Turkey
3. Ahmed Zewail - Novel prize winner in Chemistry from Egypt
So, there Nobel Laureates from Muslim countries.
Nobel prize award is European tool. Not surprisingly most winner are from Europe and European dominated colonies and that includes the Ashkenazi Jews whose actual homeland is Europe.
There were and are plenty of scholars in Muslim countries. They are just outside the system.
1. Mohammad Abdus Salam - Nobel prize winner in Physics from Pakistan
2. Aziz Sancar - Nobel prize winner in Chemistry from Turkey
3. Ahmed Zewail - Novel prize winner in Chemistry from Egypt
So, there Nobel Laureates from Muslim countries.
AbdiGeedi
To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
The days of religious empires are gone. Eventually there will be one global government and wars will be a thing of the past.
If you think about it, the humankind is still at the primitive level.
Powerful countries are just protecting their interests but modern science and technology are not inducive to granting singular dominance to countries. E.g. China with all its push for dominance is being crashed by worldwide pluralism.
3 out of 1.5 billion people is a low rate for such a large pool. The nobel lauretes is 25% jewish dominated yet their 0.0001% of the world population which is like 15 million and even less for ashkenazi. They seem to have inventing gene as that is quite a large deviation from the norm. For 25% of nobel lauretes to be muslim, you would need 375 million winners from 1901 till 2020 period. I surely don't see that. I believe there is brain drain and low human development in islamic nations
AbdiGeedi
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I think you are high on something. Nobel prize is not a gauge and it doesn't translate into millions of people.
There are about 900 Nobel laureates out of which only 12 are from Israel. Out of those not all are for advancement in sciences, but many in politics.
It is true about 20% (not 25%) were of Jewish religious ancestry, but they were born and raised as European and American.
And there are more Nobel laureates from Muslim countries that those three above, but again in politics, literature, etc.
List of Jewish Nobel laureates - Wikipedia
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List of Muslim Nobel laureates - Wikipedia
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codewebsduh
VIP
Islamic empire was made up of different nations which constantly fought against each other. We can form a global union like the EU but not a nation state.
1 in 3 million jews is a nobel laureate since 1901 till now. 3 in 1.5 billion are nobel laureates in Islamic world. The nobel peace prize is a global awards not a european award, just cause europeans have a higher human capital then islamic ones isn't their fault that muslims are dumber
What about Chinese people? they have only won 13 is that fair?
Muslim countries uniting would be powerful tbh 
AbdiGeedi
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Fun fact: Nobel Prize foundation was funded by Turkish Azeri oil money (read Muslim).
Nobel Prize - Wikipedia
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IGotDaAnswers
jUst keeping it REAL homie
Not to be racist but Muslim world is very low iq
The so called Islamic golden age was by revert Persians who were actually pressured by Islamic teachings to stop their works in science and Math.
AbdiGeedi
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Ulugh Beg (15th century) - Timurid Turkic Muslim scientist and sultan:
Ulugh Beg - Wikipedia
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7th-8th century or at least for the first 100 years the islamic world was in military campaign up untill north africa and the levant. They calmed down after meeting superior civilizations and began translating greek-persian-indian society advancement, but to suggest that the islamic world didn't contribute or add towards these societies from at least 9th till 14th century is really hypocritical and your showing some conscious bias which I really don't have.
After the ottomans came along is when they went back to war machine mode and invadin eastern europe, wars in somalia and ethiopia and controlling the red sea. From 16th-18th century which was the ottoman military age before it began to decline after 19th century.
While europeans were exploring for new lands, had their renaiisance, created the printing press(even tho this is disputed by muslims) kkkkkkkk i haven't looked into it but it was a game changer that's for certain, finally isaac newton invented the concepts for gravity which is massive game changer that allowed for flight and europeans to become no 1 air supremacists and they still hold that title till today. Plus there was no industrial age or an age of economic activities being done by machines in the islamic world and they were all stuck in pure manual work styles, in-fact u still see the 'dameer' in some muslim society transferring pay loads kkkkkk not the type of pay load on a drone is it kkkkkk. @AbdiGeedi come on dude be impartial at least but the islamic world today is a joke
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Caliphate? No thanks.
@AbdiGeedi western and arab powers may have not been great friends in somalia hour of need but u give a pass to turkey who is responsible for our 'sayidka wars' in puntland and somaliland as he was defending them from being removed from the red sea and he was trained in sudan by the other mad mullah there called the mahdi kkkkkk.
U also conveniently ignore we lost harar also after turks pulled out after the war with habesha was ended in stalemate, oromo foot soldiers started their great migration around then, and there was no turk love.
Heck do u see them even honoring all our ancestors who participated in that war in turkey? if we did such a war for europeans, i am sure they would honor it but not turks. War xitaa maydkina iyo dagaalkasi oo ahaa mid aad uu kulul dhinaca tarikhda because even arab chroniclers wrote about it at the same level as other 'conquests' in it's time period. PL has never liked the ottomans, we cut a deal with oman and had a great relationship with them where hartis live as equals and control lots of trade sectors there in salalah.
If what the turks did to somalis was mentioned they will shut u down in somalia as 'muslim neceb' but if that was done by western world to us we would all cry racism but not to ABBE TURKS, he just walks in like a bad ass and big boss and gets hawiye in order
U also conveniently ignore we lost harar also after turks pulled out after the war with habesha was ended in stalemate, oromo foot soldiers started their great migration around then, and there was no turk love.
Heck do u see them even honoring all our ancestors who participated in that war in turkey? if we did such a war for europeans, i am sure they would honor it but not turks. War xitaa maydkina iyo dagaalkasi oo ahaa mid aad uu kulul dhinaca tarikhda because even arab chroniclers wrote about it at the same level as other 'conquests' in it's time period. PL has never liked the ottomans, we cut a deal with oman and had a great relationship with them where hartis live as equals and control lots of trade sectors there in salalah.
If what the turks did to somalis was mentioned they will shut u down in somalia as 'muslim neceb' but if that was done by western world to us we would all cry racism but not to ABBE TURKS, he just walks in like a bad ass and big boss and gets hawiye in order
@JalleGeesi Puntland has alliances with america cia wax qarsoon ma aha even your danab is with cia but the PSF is much more prestigious and foils shabab attacks far more frequent then danab ever does where there is a bomb nearly every second week so we know who is far more superior intelligence wise. Puntland is friends with america our largest diaspora is in america, saudi, dubai, and of course our cherished alliance with mahri ismail(arab salah) in oman(salalah) and eastern yemen(mukallah) and socotra. We have a long-term alliance with @Farjano-Walad in Jubaland/DDSI/NFD who is literally the bridge between kenya-ethiopia-somalia.
Plus we have our crown territory of kismayo and ku-dhaa islands and yes we are 'mayors of both areas'. We have signed the punt-jubbi accords not 'punjabi' kkkkk but puntjubbi kkkkkkkkkkk. It's done and dusted for at least a century. We got @Galmudug-State locked into 93 galkacyo accords and it's healthy and strong for over 30 years with a few hiccups due to mogadishu politicians but over-all has been strong and healthy.
Now answer who the f*ck are you supporting or are un-decided which means u don't count anyways. PL played it's card, you however will play no card and think that's winning kkkkkk. Sade is a fuckin mess. Puntland knows to succeed is to develop alliances of mutual interest and create treaties and hold those treaties as long as possible so trust is formed like we have with oman-eastern yemen-socotra. Our new relationship with @Farjano-Walad is already 2013-2021 old and will continue to age as it ages over the decades and centuries like our galkacyo treaty.
Plus we have our crown territory of kismayo and ku-dhaa islands and yes we are 'mayors of both areas'. We have signed the punt-jubbi accords not 'punjabi' kkkkk but puntjubbi kkkkkkkkkkk. It's done and dusted for at least a century. We got @Galmudug-State locked into 93 galkacyo accords and it's healthy and strong for over 30 years with a few hiccups due to mogadishu politicians but over-all has been strong and healthy.
Now answer who the f*ck are you supporting or are un-decided which means u don't count anyways. PL played it's card, you however will play no card and think that's winning kkkkkk. Sade is a fuckin mess. Puntland knows to succeed is to develop alliances of mutual interest and create treaties and hold those treaties as long as possible so trust is formed like we have with oman-eastern yemen-socotra. Our new relationship with @Farjano-Walad is already 2013-2021 old and will continue to age as it ages over the decades and centuries like our galkacyo treaty.
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kkkk which Alliance @Farjano-Walad wants to expel all non Absame kumaade out of JL, it's just that they want your help against Farmaajo and MX. After they're done with MX it will be you guys Absame doesn't know how to share, just look at liyuu bolis it's only OGs in it.
kkkk which Alliance @Farjano-Walad wants to expel all non Absame kumaade out of JL, it's just that they want your help against Farmaajo and MX. After they're done with MX it will be you guys Absame doesn't know how to share, just look at liyuu bolis it's only OGs in it. Look how foolish you're they gave you the mayor of Kismaayo while they made a makaahiil the governor of Kismaayo district. They're stealing your land and you're happy
Nice try at isku dir, punt-jubbi treaty is about protecting federation principles in Somalia, waxan isku racnay 'siyasad guud naga dhaxayso' that federalism cannot be only protected by puntland and we need alliance, even @Galmudug-State is on-board about protecting federation, the only sour grapes are those without a state like murusade-dhulbahante-marehan-hawadle and all qashin laangaabs like leelkase @SomaliMVP.
You langaabs protect each other as 'anti federalist crowds' and u think by using the hyena approach of eating away at the lion in small packs will work, but it won't, it simply won't
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