Does Yemen treat their women worse then Somalis ?

[JohnCena]

Refugees aren’t stupid people who are unlettered on what countries they flee to. A genuine refugee’s main goal is to flee conflict and settle in a safe country for a period of time until their home country is safe enough to return to. Why go all the way to the UK when places like Southern Europe, Egypt and Turkey are all perfectly fine safety wise?
The irony is the UK is the furthest nation in Europe they could’ve fled to.

Not buying this “It was a random destination” stuff.

>He contradicted himself all throughout this thread
>Failed to cite his research properly
>Didn't even read his own source
>Resorted to ad hominem attacks
>Didn't even answer my questions completely
>Arguments littered with grammatical errors

But yeah bro, he totally won this debate!!!!!!!! Insert Denzel Washington smoking a cigarette smiloji!


I'm glad other people like yourself called him out on it. This guy might legit be the worst person I've ever debated with here.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Refugees aren’t stupid people who are unlettered on what countries they flee to. A genuine refugee’s main goal is to flee conflict and settle in a safe country for a period of time until their home country is safe enough to return to. Why go all the way to the UK when places like Southern Europe, Egypt and Turkey are all perfectly fine safety wise?
The irony is the UK is the furthest nation in Europe they could’ve fled to.

Not buying this “It was a random destination” stuff.

This was in the 80s not like the modern day refugee

 

[Heavy Mountains]

I love how you spent your afternoon making this meme.

The irony is that you worship Arabs exactly like this

As a nobody civilian, I support freedom and human rights but if I were in charge, things would be a little different and i'd support limited freedom and human rights.

I am a well educated individual and i know what's good for society.

 

[JohnCena]

As a nobody civilian, I support freedom and human rights but if I were in charge, things would be a little different and i'd support limited freedom and human rights.

I am a well educated individual and i know what's good for society.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Jfl at this point i said muslim nations tend not to be rich as western nations and i explained it as the result of colonialism and western peddling not because of the deen as muslims tend to be pro immigration.

This doesn't answer my question. All I wanted you to do is list 10 countries that were as developed as western nations that followed Islam heavily. You failed to do so.

You realize that Arabs were colonizers as well.....


Literally yes! do not understand how a random choice from a sample of opportunities give to you works?

LOL. We know you're bsing. Almost every war torn Somali migrated to US, UK or Canada. You keep making excuses.

Your repeating yourself when i answered your question muslim nations are not rich as gaal nations. I can show you muslims are pro immigration but you don't care.

Because they were the most vocal in the accepting of refugees. I never said they were bad because of that.

I know arabs are colonists but that had nothing to with my point.

 

[Osiris1]

As a nobody civilian, I support freedom and human rights but if I were in charge, things would be a little different and i'd support limited freedom and human rights.

I am a well educated individual and i know what's good for society.

This comment is a whole contridiction.

“I support freedom and rights when I have no power but seek to limit them once i gain said power”

 

[JohnCena]

Your repeating yourself when i answered your question muslim nations are not rich as gaal nations. I can show you muslims are pro immigration but you don't care.

Because they were the most vocal in the accepting of refugees. I never said they were bad because of that.

I know arabs are colonists but that had nothing to with my point.

Bro. Stop.

Here's a simple task for you.

Read my question that I asked above. Go find 10 countries that have a better quality of life than any western countries that also supports mass immigration and multiculturalism and are Islam centric.

Go do this and come back. If not, then stop wasting my time with these terrible half-assed answers.

This is legit my 10th time explaining this to you. I'm done after this.

If you fail to find the 10 countries that have a better quality of life than the West and supports Mass Immigration/Multiculturalism and are Islam centric, then take your L and move on.

Last chance for a comeback.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Final statement

Gaal nations are richer because they put down the global south were muslims mostly live not because of liberal practices.

My family chose a random nation from pool of opportunities the one they chose was uk. They were very uneducated on what the uk was like. This was in the 80s where you couldn't just use a cellphone.

I plan to leave to a muslim nation when i have enough money. Simple as. Its not hypocritical for me to say that.

Now its either you are trolling or just obtuse. I know which.

 

[JohnCena]

This comment is a whole contridiction.

“I support freedom and rights when I have no power but seek to limit them once i gain said power”

That's literally Mr.Nomad's entire premise throughout this entire thread

 

[JohnCena]

Final statement

Gaal nations are richer because they put down the global south were muslims mostly live not because of liberal practices.

My family chose a random nation from pool of opportunities the one they chose was uk. They were very uneducated on what the uk was like. This was in the 80s where you couldn't just use a cellphone.

I plan to leave to a muslim nation when i have enough money. Simple as. Its not hypocritical for me to say that.

Now its either you are trolling or just obtuse. I know which.

We addressed all of this. Go find the 10 countries.

If you fail to do so, then you lost.

Time is ticking.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Bro. Stop.

Here's a simple task for you.

Read my question that I asked above. Go find 10 countries that have a better quality of life than any western countries that also supports mass immigration and multiculturalism and are Islam centric.

Go do this and come back. If not, then stop wasting my time with these terrible half-assed answers.

This is legit my 10th time explaining this to you. I'm done after this.

If you fail to find the 10 countries that have a better quality of life than the West and supports Mass Immigration/Multiculturalism and are Islam centric, then take your L and move on.

Last chance for a comeback.

This my 1000000tg saying this

GAAL NATIONS ARE RICHER THAN MUSLIM NATIONS.

GAALS ARE NOT RICHER BECAUSE OF THEIR VALUES LIKE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

THEY ARE RICHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXPLOITED THE GLOBAL SOUTH FOR CENTURIES.

ISLAMIC VALUES WERE NOT STOPPING MUSLIMS FROM REACHING THE PINNACLE OF CIVILISATION DURING THEIR ERA

MUSLIM NATIONS ARE PRO IMMIGRATION OVERALL THIS IS NOT A LIBERAL VALUE

ME TRYING TO NAME 10 MUSLIM NATIONS WHICH ARE RICHER THAN GAALS IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE MUSLIM NATIONS ARE POORER BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I STATED ABOVE

NOW IF YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS THEN KALAAS I CANNOT REASON WITH YOU.

 

[JohnCena]

This my 1000000tg saying this

GAAL NATIONS ARE RICHER THAN MUSLIM NATIONS.

GAALS ARE NOT RICHER BECAUSE OF THEIR VALUES LIKE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

THEY ARE RICHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXPLOITED THE GLOBAL SOUTH FOR CENTURIES.

ISLAMIC VALUES WERE NOT STOPPING MUSLIMS FROM REACHING THE PINNACLE OF CIVILISATION DURING THEIR ERA

MUSLIM NATIONS ARE PRO IMMIGRATION OVERALL THIS IS NOT A LIBERAL VALUE

ME TRYING TO NAME 10 MUSLIM NATIONS WHICH ARE RICHER THAN GAALS IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE MUSLIM NATIONS ARE POORER BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I STATED ABOVE

NOW IF YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS THEN KALAAS I CANNOT REASON WITH YOU.

Ah yes, thanks for this list of 10 Islamic centric countries that are superior to western countries in terms of quality of life!

You made the claim that Islamic nations are superior and now you're crying about being exploited. LOL.

You even bolded it for me.

You're such a nice, respectful person!

 

[Internet Nomad]

Ah yes, thanks for this list of 10 Islamic centric countries that are superior to western countries in terms of quality of life!

You made the claim that Islamic nations are superior and now you're crying about being exploited. LOL.

You even bolded it for me.

You're such a nice, respectful person!

I have never claimed that muslim nations cannot be exploited what on earth are you getting this from. Muslim nations fell because they couldn't adhere to islam properly making them weak and a easy target for the gaal.

you think i hate you or angry with you no. I am just frustrated that you cannot see my point saxib

 

[JohnCena]

I have never claimed that muslim nations cannot be exploited what on earth are you getting this from. Muslim nations fell because they couldn't adhere to islam properly making them weak and a easy target for the gaal.

you think i hate you or angry with you no. I am just frustrated that you cannot see my point saxib

Bro.

You claimed they were superior, did you not?

Do you know what superior means?

You found out you were wrong from the beginning and now you don't want to take accountability for your initial comments.


Just give it up at this point. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Bro.

You claimed they were superior, did you not?

Do you know what superior means?

You keep moving the goal post.

Yes superior in governing but we are a long way from the times we used to govern with islam properly thats why i said we should go govern with islam its a superior method to what ever is going on now.
How is that moving the goal post.

 

[JohnCena]

Yes superior in governing but we are a long way from the times we used to govern with islam properly thats why i said we should go govern with islam its a superior method to what ever is going on now.
How is that moving the goal post.

You didn't mention superior in governing in your initial statement.

Even if you did, superior in governing implies that the country is superior because governments are directly responsible for the way of life of its civilians.

So either way, you're still wrong.

 

[Heavy Mountains]

@JohnCena

Theocracies could also be successful as long as they have good government policies but i don't personally support an Islamic theocracy because a lot of Muslim clerics are reactionaries.

 

[Internet Nomad]

You didn't mention superior in governing in your initial statement.

Even if you did, superior in governing implies that the country is superior because governments are directly responsible for the way of life of its civilians.

So either way, you're still wrong.

Human rights is a buzzword and changes every couple centuries why would muslims subject their nations to the values of kaffirs.

religion is optional but if you are in a muslim country where 99% of people are muslim you should be able to use religous laws to govern.

if there is a enclave of christian and jews within a muslim nation. The sharia acknowledges that and lets them govern using jewish courts or Christian courts.

What are you going lie about next?

 

[JohnCena]

@JohnCena

Theocracies could also be successful as long as they have good government policies but i don't personally support an Islamic theocracy because a lot of Muslim clerics are reactionaries.

Those policies violate human rights especially women and other marginalized minorities. It wouldn't be effective.

 

[JohnCena]

What are you going lie about next?

You're quoting the wrong reference. You said muslim nations are better in this thread.

"Muslims were the best on the world stage when our religion was in effect"

Those countries are still heavily Islamic.

You still didn't refute what I said by the way.


I also love how you said "final statement" a page ago and you're still commenting.

Grade A hypocrite. You keep contradicting yourself.