Do you think the EAF(East African Federation) is a future threat?

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Somalia should join the EAF. These countries have some of the richest natural resources in the world. Somali businesses will be able to get rich off of these Bantus.

Warya what are you smoking?

The EAF will be a sovereign state sxb, if Somalia joins then we'll basically be commiting suicide by opening the flood gates to 200 million bantus, since there will be freedom of movement.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Hell no... Family planning is the way. I don't want people having children they can't properly take care of.

There are about 20 million Somalis on the planet and that is counting the diaspora, we are less than 10% of Ethiopia population and the Future EAF, this is about culture survival, we need to build our nation on a Food surplus the Jubba & Shebelle can sustain a population of 60 mill only BUT to really kick it off we need tostada eating fish Japan has population of 120 million that eats primarily fish and vegetables considering, we need good governance with central planning that makes long term goals like China's

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Good plan, in the mean time we can work with the Habeshas & Oromos to push back the bantus in the future. Afterwards, we'll settle our differences with ethiopia when we have solved the bantu problem.

Long term planning is what is needed and a focus on food independence and native production and infrastructure not a passive goverment like all other African governments that live on handouts our are to dependent on forgeiners I rather have us be Eritrea than Nigeria tbh

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Long term planning is what is needed and a focus on food independence and native production and infrastructure not a passive goverment like all other African governments that live on handouts our are to dependent on forgeiners I rather have us be Eritrea than Nigeria tbh

Nah Eritrea is a socialist shithole. Nigeria is far superior than eritrea economically. What we need is state capitalism, whereby private businesses can operate & thrive, but the gov't does central planning & promotes key sectors of the economy through tax incentives e.g. plus the gov't should invest in public infrastructure. Essentially businesses will keep private profits, but serve national interests as well.

 

[Aaegal]

There are about 20 million Somalis on the planet and that is counting the diaspora, we are less than 10% of Ethiopia population and the Future EAF, this is about culture survival, we need to build our nation on a Food surplus the Jubba & Shebelle can sustain a population of 60 mill only BUT to really kick it off we need tostada eating fish Japan has population of 120 million that eats primarily fish and vegetables considering, we need good governance with central planning that makes long term goals like China's

Where are you getting 20 million from? The CIA estimates around 10.8 million in Somalia and around 1.1 million in other nations. A large population does not equal military strength. Look at Israel, Australia, Canada, they have strong a strong army with a relatively small population.

We should just build an army big enough to protect the country. There is no need to start wars with other nations. Every problem can be solved diplomatically.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Nah Eritrea is a socialist shithole. Nigeria is far superior than eritrea economically. What we need is state capitalism, whereby private businesses can operate & thrive, but the gov't does central planning & promotes key sectors of the economy through tax incentives e.g. plus the gov't should invest in public infrastructure. Essentially businesses will keep private profits, but serve national interests as well.

I mean in the sense on national independence and not caving in to forgeiners pressure, Agree with all your other points but other points, we need to utilise the free market to serve the nationalist interest of the nation and individuals who run then (SOMALIS) and not sell our selves short like other African countries who sell mines for worth tens of millions for meager pennies

 

[Aaegal]

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

I mean in the sense on national independence and not caving in to forgeiners pressure, Agree with all your other points but agree with all your other points, we need to utilise the free market to serve the nationalist interest of the nation and individuals who run then (SOMALIS) and not sell our selves short like other African countries who sell mines for worth tens of millions for meager pennies

100% agree sxb. A combination of Capitalism & nationalism is the way forward. In times of war, the economy will come under the full command of the joint chiefs of staff & all business leaders will be answerable to military leaders.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Where are you getting 20 million from? The CIA estimates around 10.8 million in Somalia and around 1.1 million in other nations. A large population does not equal military strength. Look at Israel, Australia, Canada, they have strong a strong army with a relatively small population.

We should just build an army big enough to protect the country. There is no need to start wars with other nations. Every problem can be solved diplomatically.

Currently we are a wounded lion in a den of hyenas, our neighbours WILL devour us if we don't do anything Ethiopia NEEDS a port badly for it fast growing economy (10% fastest in the world ) look at their political moves resently (berbera port deal ) EAF has already declared its intention of pan Africanism an wish to make Somalia a vassal state first before annexing us (AMISOM) while we should definitely focus on quality and producing our own weopans is a must so that arms embargos or cutting support ( soviets in 1977) will not effect us.We need a bigger population to fill out our country and grow our economy

 

[Aaegal]

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Currently we are a wounded lion in a den of hyenas, our neighbours WILL devour us if we don't do anything Ethiopia NEEDS a port badly for it fast growing economy (10% fastest in the world ) look at their political moves resently (berbera port deal ) EAF has already declared its intention of pan Africanism an wish to make Somalia a vassal state first before annexing us (AMISOM) while we should definitely focus on quality and producing our own weopans is a must so that arms embargos or cutting support ( soviets in 1977) We need a bigger population to fill out our country and grow our economy

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Oh I did not know that many were living in Kenya and Ethiopia. Can you tell me more about the berbera port deal?

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Oh I did not know that many were living in Kenya and Ethiopia. Can you tell me more about the berbera port deal?

Ethiopia gets 20% off the earning because......Of absolutely no fucking reason, also it's going to expand its economic footprint into SL by 30%, The majority of SL economy depends on Ethiopia but not vice versa, it's giving Ethiopia more power and influence than ever before it's trying to turn it into a vassal state that only does what Ethiopia wants

 

[Aaegal]

Ethiopia gets 20% off the earning because......Of absolutely no fucking reason, also it's going to expand its economic footprint into SL by 30%, The majority of SL economy depends on Ethiopia but not vice versa, it's giving Ethiopia more power and influence than ever before it's trying to turn it into a vassal state that only does what Ethiopia wants

Who made this deal? How long is the contract for, and can we get out of it?

 

[Striker]

The whole EAF won't happen.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Who made this deal? How long is the contract for, and can we get out of it?

The current admin of SL, Silanyo the deal will run for thirty years with the majority of the revenue NOT going to SL there were demonstrations and opposition to it but those have been silenced with siilanyo turning the debate into "if your gThe deal your pro unity" which is retarded and not related at all, the only viably way of it being stopped ironically is by the Federal Gov which has lobbied a against it.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

The whole EAF won't happen.

Everyone but S Sudan is against it they are currently negotiating the terms of the federation and the time it should be implemented

 

[Aaegal]

The current admin of SL, Silanyo the deal will run for thirty years with the majority of the revenue NOT going to SL there were demonstrations and opposition to it but those have been silenced with siilanyo turning the debate into "if your gThe deal your pro unity" which is retarded and not related at all, the only viably way of it being stopped ironically is by the Federal Gov which has lobbied a against it.

That seems like corruption to me. Does the Somali president have any jurisdiction over SL?

 

[Vanguard]

EAC to start issuing EA e-Passport January 2018

http://www.eac.int/news-and-media/p.../eac-start-issuing-ea-e-passport-january-2018

East Africa Moving Toward Monetary Union

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2016/12/19/AFR191216-EAC-Monetary-Union

The superior Bantu's have outsmarted the Afro-asiatic negroes. At this rate we will never catch up to them.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

That seems like corruption to me. Does the Somali president have any jurisdiction over SL?

Nah closest thing you have are the dhulobante militia than have pledged support for him that control some of the eastern side of SL

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

EAC to start issuing EA e-Passport January 2018

http://www.eac.int/news-and-media/p.../eac-start-issuing-ea-e-passport-january-2018

East Africa Moving Toward Monetary Union

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2016/12/19/AFR191216-EAC-Monetary-Union

The superior Bantu's have outsmarted the Afro-asiatic negroes. At this rate we will never catch up to them.

Our chief eugenicist @Amun will be triggered by this news.

Its only a matter of time until we're colonised by the bantus if urgent action is not taken to modernise & strengthen Somalia.

 

[Aaegal]

Nah closest thing you have are the dhulobante militia than have pledged support for him that control some of the eastern side of SL

How tribalistic are the people of Somaliland? If there is a proper plan put in place to ensure the success of the entirety of Somalia, would they get on board with it? Did they vote in the 2017 elections?