Do you think Somalia needs its own Atatürk?

[BigGus]

Somalia and secularism?


Have yall been around the internet lately? Somalis are on some Wahhabi high. The same people who say they would murder ex-Muslims if they step inside their country?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Somalia and secularism?


Have yall been around the internet lately? Somalis are on some Wahhabi high. The same people who say they would murder ex-Muslims if they step inside their country?

You're granted persona non grata you fickle minded apostate, indoctrinated & assimilated into a none Somali culture cause the Somali culture is Islam.

 

[The_Cosmos]

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You're granted persona non grata you fickle minded apostate, indoctrinated & assimilated into a none Somali culture cause the Somali culture is Islam.

Did you just call him "indoctrinated".


I never knew our parents raised us to embrace Islam just to disregard it later.

The cognitive dissonance is real.

Listen, how could you honestly say that the shariah is the best form of governance? Do believe that theives should lose their hands, adulterous married people stoned, apostates killed, non Muslims pay jizya I'm "humiliation" and etc. This is some of the most barbarous things anybody can claim is the best source of governance. The shariah belongs in the seventh century saxib.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Did you just call him "indoctrinated".


I never knew our parents raised us to embrace Islam just to disregard it later.

The cognitive dissonance is real.

Listen, how could you honestly say that the shariah is the best form of governance? Do believe that theives should lose their hands, adulterous married people stoned, apostates killed, non Muslims pay jizya I'm "humiliation" and etc. This is some of the most barbarous things anybody can claim is the best source of governance. The shariah belongs in the seventh century saxib.

You're free to make assumptions to your hearts content, I have studied many religions & did my own critical thinking & based on that information I came to my own conclusion, so yeah moving on swiftly, when I say shariah I'm not referring to al CIAda or ISIS Israeli secret intelligence service, no yanky jihad. I'm referring to real shariah ordained by the most benevolent. You may think it belongs in the seventeenth century but the overwhelming majority of Somalis would beg to differ, if you indeed believe in democracy then the majority rules right?

 

[The_Cosmos]

You're free to make assumptions to your hearts content, I have studied many religions & did my own critical thinking & based on that information I formed my own opinions so yeah moving on swiftly, when I say shariah I'm not referring to al CIAda or ISIS Israeli secret intelligence service, no yanky jihad. I'm referring to real shariah ordained by the most benevolent. You may think it belongs in the seventeenth century but the overwhelming majority of Somalis would beg to differ, if you indeed believe in democracy then the majority rules right?

Don't label people and take the back peddle when they speak back akhi.

Listen, you may not support Isis but you and them sure do believe in the same shariah because what it entails is what they actually do. Like I said, killing apostates, stoning adulterers, paying jizya in humiliation, cutting off of the hands of theives and so on are all in the shariah that was ordained by your "beloved". Do you defend that? Isis sure does.

Also, secular democracy isn't based on majority rule. That's nonsensical. For example, in America you have bill of rights which protects the rights of minorities from the majority. What you advocate will oppress a minority which is completely at odds with democracy. It's called the tyranny of the majority and their are preventative measures against it. There's a reason why Donald Trump can't simply ban Muslims from coming in because it violates freedom of religion which is a privilege Islam refuses to give you.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Don't label people and take the back peddle when they speak back akhi.

Listen, you may not support Isis but you and them sure do believe in the same shariah because what it entails is what they actually do. Like I said, killing apostates, stoning adulterers, paying jizya in humiliation, cutting off of the hands of theives and so on are all in the shariah that was ordained by your "beloved". Do you defend that? Isis sure does.

Also, secular democracy isn't based on majority rule. That's nonsensical. For example, in America you have bill of rights which protects the rights of minorities from the majority. What you advocate will oppress a minority which is completely at odds with democracy. It's called the tyranny of the majority and their are preventative measures against it. There's a reason why Donald Trump can't simply ban Muslims from coming in because it violates freedom of religion which is a privilege Islam refuses to give you.

United States of America is a corporation & Obama is the CEO, presidents ain't elected they're selected, it has the highest death rates, biggest prison population in the world so much so that prison industry is a big business, the rich get richer & the poor get poorer, there's the death sentence for treason in most western countries, treason is akin to apostasy in Islam. You should first study the shariah instead of getting your information from the main street media.

 

[The_Cosmos]

United States of America is a corporation & Obama is the CEO, presidents ain't elected they're selected, it has the highest death rates, biggest prison population in the world so much so that prison industry is a big business, the rich get richer & the poor get poorer, there's the death sentence for treason in most western countries, treason is akin to apostasy in Islam. You should first study the shariah instead of getting your information from the main street media.

Again, you completely brushed aside all my other points about the shariah and focuses on only one; apostasy. I'll repeat, what do you think about the others stoning of adulterers, jizya in humiliation, women having the need to accompany a male relative if they wish to travel, cutting off the hands of theives and so on. All of this is advocated by Isis and the shariah. Do you support these laws?

Most of what you said about America and cooperations I agree with you on but don't point out the flaws of others to hide your own. The cooperations might be strong in America but it still has some of the highest level of freedom index in the world. Also, America is not synonymous with the west. Scandinavian nations are the most atheistic and yet they have the best living standards in the world. Norway has some of the lowest reoffending rates in the world. Don't pull this "Allah has given the world to the infidels" none sense because a thousand years ago, the Christians were saying the same.

Also, the top 10 worst places for women to live the majority are Muslim.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Again, you completely brushed aside all my other points about the shariah and focuses on only one; apostasy. I'll repeat, what do you think about the others stoning of adulterers, jizya in humiliation, women having the need to accompany a male relative if they wish to travel, cutting off the hands of theives and so on. All of this is advocated by Isis and the shariah. Do you support these laws?

Most of what you said about America and cooperations I agree with you on but don't point out the flaws of others to hide your own. The cooperations might be strong in America but it still has some of the highest level of freedom index in the world. Also, America is not synonymous with the west. Scandinavian nations are the most atheistic and yet they have the best living standards in the world. Norway has some of the lowest reoffending rates in the world. Don't pull this "Allah has given the world to the infidels" none sense because a thousand years ago, the Christians were saying the same.

Also, the top 10 worst places for women to live the majority are Muslim.

There's not one so called Muslim country that implements the shariah in its totality not even al saud. All those countries a puppet regimes of the western world in particular USA, there's not a single country in our lifetime that was governed by shariah, the last was the ottoman kalifah..don't believe everything he hear on the news. If a person doesn't believe in the divine laws of Allah then they're not a Muslim.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

There are some Muslims who oppose Sharia law. It is unclear how one could become a Muslim and believe that everything in the Koran is perfect and that the Sunna of Mohammed is ideal pattern of life and then turn around and say that Sharia is not to be lived under for some reason. Each and every law in the Sharia can be traced back to the Koran and Sunna. Any Muslim who denies the truth of the Sharia is a hypocrite and is kufr (has thoughts of unbelief). Once you buy into the Koran and the Sunna, the Sharia is just a step away.

 

[The_Cosmos]

There's not one so called Muslim country that implements the shariah in its totality not even al saud. All those countries a puppet regimes of the western world in particular USA, there's not a single country in our lifetime that was governed by shariah, the last was the ottoman kalifah..don't believe everything he hear on the news. If a person doesn't believe in the divine laws of Allah then they're not a Muslim.

For the love of Bertrand Russell why can you answer my point without being a coward. Do you support the killing of apostates, jizya, women not being allowed to leave unless with s male relative, cutting off the hands of theives, stoning of adulterers and so on. Isis supports these laws and they're well founded in the shariah, do you support these laws?

 

[Bahal]

Shut the f*ck up you idiotic shitskin you can ape cadaans all you want you ain't never gonna be accepted really lmao

 

[The_Cosmos]

There are some Muslims who oppose Sharia law. It is unclear how one could become a Muslim and believe that everything in the Koran is perfect and that the Sunna of Mohammed is ideal pattern of life and then turn around and say that Sharia is not to be lived under for some reason. Each and every law in the Sharia can be traced back to the Koran and Sunna. Any Muslim who denies the truth of the Sharia is a hypocrite and is kufr (has thoughts of unbelief). Once you buy into the Koran and the Sunna, the Sharia is just a step away.

Well, I do agree with you on the fact that as a Muslim either you take Islam and its laws at its absolute totality or you're not a Muslim. However, they're completely homophobic, misogynistic, cruel and outdated.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

For the love of Bertrand Russell why can you answer my point without being a coward. Do you support the killing of apostates, jizya, women not being allowed to leave unless with s male relative, cutting off the hands of theives, stoning of adulterers and so on. Isis supports these laws and they're well founded in the shariah, do you support these laws?

As a Muslim I'm merely a slave of Allah, I hear my master & I obey like the obedient slave that I am to my master Allah. You could of saved yourself all that typing if you read my previous comments cause I made it abundantly clear word to Edward berneys.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Shut the f*ck up you idiotic shitskin you can ape cadaans all you want you ain't never gonna be accepted really lmao

I don't care to be accepted, hate all you want but it shows more about you then it does about me. Hate is an irrational response but it's even more so when somebody is hated for being something that he or she chose to be on their own accord. That's why I call for secular democracy. You advocate for majority rule (the tyrant of the majority) whilst I advocate for equal of everyone.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Well, I do agree with you on the fact that as a Muslim either you take Islam and its laws at its absolute totality or you're not a Muslim. However, they're completely homophobic, misogynistic, cruel and outdated.

So is planned parenthood aborting millions of babies, sodomy is the biggest disrespect to the creator, you get this beautiful life creating thing & you place it inside excrement smh disposable, what next? Pedophilia? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

 

[The_Cosmos]

As a Muslim I'm merely a slave of Allah, I hear my master & I obey like the obedient slave that I am to my master Allah. You could of saved yourself all that typing if you read my previous comments cause I made it abundantly clear word to Edward berneys.

I'm going to take that as a yes considering you refuse to answer. Now, how are you any different to Isis when what they call for, is what you want?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I don't care to be accepted, hate all you want but it shows more about you then it does about me. Hate is an irrational response but it's even more so when somebody is hated for being something that he or she chose to be on their own accord. That's why I call for secular democracy. You advocate for majority rule (the tyrant of the majority) whilst I advocate for equal of everyone.

How can hitler be equal to mother Teresa?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I'm going to take that as a yes considering you refuse to answer. Now, how are you any different to Isis when what they call for, is what you want?

We're living in strange times where things ain't really as they seem. ISIS Israeli secret service & other agencies have teamed up to tarnish the image of Islam & Muslims.

Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
Chapter (61) sūrat l-ṣaf (The Row)

 

[The_Cosmos]

So is planned parenthood aborting millions of babies, sodomy is the biggest disrespect to the creator, you get this beautiful life creating thing & you place it inside excrement smh disposable, what next? Pedophilia? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

Well, the prophet married a 9 year old and so I wouldn't use that as an argument considering the sharia doesn't provide an age of marriage.

Should a rape victim have to live with a child whom she she never chose? Why kind of God would want such a thing from a person?

How can hitler be equal to mother Teresa?

Hitler and Mother Teresa are both people are they not? Both are equal in humanity but different in action.

 

[The_Cosmos]

We're living in strange times where things ain't really as they seem. ISIS Israeli secret service & other agencies have teamed up to tarnish Islam.
heir intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

Israeli secret service kulaha. Get a grip and open your eyes and stop blaming everyone for your problems. Islamic empires have been conquering and enslaving for centuries but when the gaal gets supersedes you, you blame him for everything.