we should take notes from Ethiopia, how did they make this happen im not even mad i just wanna know how.
Do you think Somalia needs its own Atatürk?
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The_Cosmos
Pepe Trump
Are Somalis honestly going to embrace secular democracy over the shariah?? You're more likely to see pigs fly. Somalia needs secular democracy but that could only work in an educated society which Somalia does not have.
Ferrari
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Religion when followed properly and entirely is the best option. But given the current climate and the misuse of our religion, I can understand why people would want it to have no influence whatsoever in the country. It is so hard to find true Muslims who can rule an entity as Allah commands them. and NO ISIS isn't doing that.
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At the start of Ataturks reign Turkey was far from "educated" and around only 10% of the people were literate
we need communism again. somalia is a nation of strong minded indivsiuals you need a strong person to lead them.We had an Atatürk once
Why God Why
Says the person who never lived in a communist country
In the 80's the western governments decided that it would legalise Homosexuality and enforce secularism. You can see that had great effect on some of the members here. Our beautiful religion is being targeted and was vulnerable since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Events such as WW1/WW2 were used to further weaken the Ottoman Empire.
They destroyed our unity and Islamic governance through nationalism, patriotism, and secularism.
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All parties to the conflict used religion to further their national interests. The Ottoman Sultan, who was also the Caliph, declared a jihad on England, France and Russia, expecting support from the Turkomans in Central Asia and the Muslims in India. The British in India were particularly vulnerable. India, with a population of over 300 million at the beginning of the war, provided the empire with a vast pool of manpower. The Indian army, one million strong, was extensively used in Iraq, Egypt, North Africa, Palestine and Syria. It was recruited primarily from the regions between Delhi and Peshawar and had a strong Muslim component. The British similarly recruited a large number of Egyptians for their war effort, while the French did the same in Algeria. For the first time in modern history, a large number of Muslim soldiers were faced with a dilemma, either to fight fellow Muslims while serving in the armed forces of a colonial (nominally Christian) power, or to refuse to do so. The British successfully combated the Ottoman call to jihad in India and Egypt and the Ottomans were only partially successful in neutralizing the Muslims in India. In more than one campaign in Iraq, Indian Muslim troops fired over the heads of defending Ottoman troops to avoid killing fellow Muslims. The Russians achieved similar results in Central Asia, through both propaganda and force.
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All parties to the conflict used religion to further their national interests. The Ottoman Sultan, who was also the Caliph, declared a jihad on England, France and Russia, expecting support from the Turkomans in Central Asia and the Muslims in India. The British in India were particularly vulnerable. India, with a population of over 300 million at the beginning of the war, provided the empire with a vast pool of manpower. The Indian army, one million strong, was extensively used in Iraq, Egypt, North Africa, Palestine and Syria. It was recruited primarily from the regions between Delhi and Peshawar and had a strong Muslim component. The British similarly recruited a large number of Egyptians for their war effort, while the French did the same in Algeria. For the first time in modern history, a large number of Muslim soldiers were faced with a dilemma, either to fight fellow Muslims while serving in the armed forces of a colonial (nominally Christian) power, or to refuse to do so. The British successfully combated the Ottoman call to jihad in India and Egypt and the Ottomans were only partially successful in neutralizing the Muslims in India. In more than one campaign in Iraq, Indian Muslim troops fired over the heads of defending Ottoman troops to avoid killing fellow Muslims. The Russians achieved similar results in Central Asia, through both propaganda and force.
The_Cosmos
Pepe Trump
This conspiracy theory that involved the west purposely targeting Islam has to end because Muslims are in the place they're in because of themselves. People conquer each other all the time and western invasions of Muslim lands can be compared to Muslim invasions of western lands such as Sicily, Spain, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania and etc. Muslims need to fix up on their own without pointing fingers at anyone.
Somalis destroyed themselves and the west had absolutely nothing to do with it. Now, the west has done things in the Middle East which I am completely against like the Iraq war but that does not give anyone the right to absolve the Muslims of any wrong they have done to themselves. The Ottoman Empire when it joined the First World War was already a declining power that lost territory to Britain, Italy and France. The Ottoman Empire joined the war based on a treaty it signed with the German empire that was ratified in August 2 1914. The alliance was a way to help the Ottoman Empire modernise it's weak and failing military and in return they join on the side of the Germans after they declare war on Russia. You see, no foul play by anyone. It was also under constant of nationalism which was causing trouble within the empire.
People such as yourself love to point out the problems of the west but somehow almost glorify the Ottoman Empire which used to take Christian from their parents and raise them as Muslims in the military so they can fight against their own people. Muslim empires have commited some of the worst in history much like non Muslim empires. The ottomans murdered over a million Armenians in what came to be known as the Armenian genocide. The Turkish government refuses to recognise it as a genocide.
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Somalia needs shariah law!
We need to get back to our roots, we tried democracy during the 60's we tried communism & all these other Jewish Zionist creations, we will never unite unless we bring back the law of Allah. That's why we are in the state that we are cause we chose to govern ourselves with manmade laws.
What Somalia needs are roads and an agricultural policy, you can forget about all that BS. There is another famine around the corner, but I don't see any substantial increase in food production. It does not matter what you think if your people are dying by the thousands each day.
Somalia cannot feed itself, literally a third of our population is alive due to the generosity of others. Our population is still relatively small, but do you think the world will continue this level of support when Somalia reaches 20 million? Somalia is one of only a handful of countries in the entire world where Malthusian conditions still prevail. That is some freaky shit.
Somalia cannot feed itself, literally a third of our population is alive due to the generosity of others. Our population is still relatively small, but do you think the world will continue this level of support when Somalia reaches 20 million? Somalia is one of only a handful of countries in the entire world where Malthusian conditions still prevail. That is some freaky shit.
Would you trade your religion for money? Thats exactly what happened when the European colonialist gave us our so called independence (how when we're sovereign & have God given inalienable rights is anyone's guess) if you listen to this brother xaaji maxamed yasin who was a parliament member said there was a marrano Jewish Italian man going around with a briefcase full of money telling Somali parliamentarian members to vote for secularism instead of the divine shariah law which is incumbent upon us as Muslims,he said most of the parliament members voted for secularism, it was just him and two others who voted for shariah law hence our fall from grace.
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The_Cosmos
Pepe Trump
"Jewish Zionist creations"
Somalia has never had a true secular democracy. Siad Barre only took over because the governments of the 60s were far too corrupt and clan based.
I'm not even going to debate why sharia law is just a no no.
a large extent furnished the brains and energy in the revolution throughout Russia. Mr. George von Longerke Meyer, United States Ambassador to Russia during the Russo-Japanese War, in an official letter dated December 30, 1905, to Mr. Elihu Root, then U. S. Secretary of State. [Nevertheless, in 1905, the revolution financed by Jacob H. Schiff failed.]"Jewish Zionist creations"
Somalia has never had a true secular democracy. Siad Barre only took over because the governments of the 60s were far too corrupt and clan based.
I'm not even going to debate why sharia law is just a no no.
Capture the press! Through it everything will come to you in the natural course of events. Adolphe Cremioux. Founder, Alliance Israelite Universelle, published in Russia and elsewhere in 1907: quoted from A. Shamakoff, Address in Defense of T. Dokshin and Others, p. 36. Moscow: University Printing Office, 1907. [The Rothschilds financed Alliance Israelite Universelle which sent out bulletins ‘Nationalities must disappear, religion must be suppressed. But Israel (i.e., Zionism) must not disappear.’]
I believe that of all the achievements of my people, none has been nobler than the part the sons and daughters of Israel have taken in the great movement which has culminated in free Russia (revolution). Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, March 23, 1917 at the mass meeting celebrating the revolution in Russia, New York Times, March 24, 1917
The Jews in Russia, in their total mass, were responsible for the Revolution. Angelo S. Rappaport, The Pioneers of the Russian Revolution, p. 250 Stanley, Paul and C. London, 1918
The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people. Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919
There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest ideals of Judaism. Jewish Chronicle London, April 4, 1919
The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world. The American Hebrew September 10, 1920
Bolshevism is a religion and a faith.How could those half-converted believers dream to vanquish the 'Truthful' and the 'Faithful' of their own creed, those holy crusaders, who had gathered around the Red standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the daring guidance of those experienced officers of all latter-day revolutions - the Jews? Dr. Oscar Levy, Preface The World Significance of the Russian Revolution, by George Pitt-Rivers, 1920
The Bolshevist officials of Russia are Jews. The Russian Revolution with all its ghastly horrors was a Jewish movement. The Jewish Chronicle, Sept. 22, 1922
What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for profit. To what can we reduce his (the Jew's) religious worship? To extortion. What is his real God? Cash! Karl Marx, founder of Communism, quoted in the British Guardian, July-August, 1924
We have exterminated the property owners in Russia. We are going to do the same thing in America and Europe. ‘The Jew’, 1925
It is often said that Judaism is the driving force of communism; but this does not prove anything beyond that which is expected and only natural.Prof. F.A. Ossendowski, The Nineteenth Century and After, p.29, London, January, 1926
The real author of the Five-Years' Plan, Kaganovitz, is a Jew, and what is more, a great favorite of Stalin. Jewish World, June 25, 1931
Marx was a Jew. His manner of thought was Jewish. His keenness of intellect was Jewish; and one of his forebears was a most distinguished rabbi endowed with a powerful mind. N.H. Bialik, in an address delivered at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, May 11, 1933, which appeared in Lines of Communication, Palestine, July, 1933
The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world...It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews. A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148
We intend to remake the Gentiles -- what the Communists are doing in Russia. Rabbi Lewish Brown in How Odd of God, New York, 1924
Marxism is the modern form of Jewish prophecy. Reinhold Niebur, speech before the Jewish Institute of Religion, New York, October 3, 1934
Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism. The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935
Lenin had taken part in Jewish student meetings in Switzerland thirty-five years before. Dr. Chaim Weizmann, in The London Jewish Chronicle, December 16, 1932. (Lenin was born on April 10, 1870 in the vicinity of Odessa, South of Russia, as a son of Ilko Sroul Goldmann, a German Jew, and Sofie Goldmann, a German Jewess. Lenin was circumcised as Hiam Goldmann. Lenin, as a child, was left behind and later his Jewish convict father, Ilko Sroul Goldman, wrote inquiring his whereabouts. Lenin had already been picked up and adopted by Qulianoff (originally Zederbaum, a Kalmuck Jew). Lenin, or Qulianoff by adoption, married a Jewess and their children spoke Yiddish.
We are one people despite the ostensible rifts, cracks and differences between the American and Soviet democracies. We are one people and it is not in our interests that the West should liberate the East, for in doing this and in liberating the enslaved nations, the West would inevitably deprive Jewry of the Eastern half of its world power. Chaim Weizmann statement in World Conquerors, p. 227.
Some call it Marxism -- I call it Judaism. The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935
http://theevilofzionismexposedbyjew...ews-have-said-about-communism-bolshevism.html
They plot & plan, but Allah also plans & Allah is the best of planners.
The Angels asked the most merciful the omnipresent whether this new creation (mankind) who cause bloodshed & anarchy like the race before them the Djinn. The most sublime the most wise said I know that which you do not know, which is that's there's good amongst us, Allah knows best. There's a spiritual war talking place that most are oblivious to, there's only two sides the Godly vs the ungodly, chose wisely.
There will never be a secular somalia are you nutts?! so I suggest you stay in the west."Jewish Zionist creations"
Somalia has never had a true secular democracy. Siad Barre only took over because the governments of the 60s were far too corrupt and clan based.
I'm not even going to debate why sharia law is just a no no.
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