Do you consider a mixed child with a Somali mother half Somali?

[Abdulahi Abdulahi]

the sources from that article/book:
Further reading
Références
• ABRAHAMIAN, Atossa Araxia. The Cosmopolities. The Coming of the Global Citizen. New York: Columbia Global Reports, 2015.
• ACOSTA, Diego. Regional Report on Citizenship: The South American and Mexican Cases. San Domenico di Fiesole: European University Institute, 2016.
• ALBARAZI, Zahra. Regional Report on Citizenship: The Middle East and North Africa (MENA). San Domenico di Fiesole: European University Institute, 2017.
• DE GROOT Gerard-René, VONK Olivier. Acquisition of Nationality by Birth on a Particular Territory or Establishment of Parentage: Global Trends Regarding Ius Sanguinis and Ius Soli. Netherlands International Law Review, 2018, 65, p. 319-335.
• GLOBALCIT. CITLAW Indicators. Version 3.0. San Domenico di Fiesole: European University Institute, 2017.
• GLOBAL CAMPAIGN FOR EQUAL NATIONALITY RIGHTS.
• GOSEWINKEL, Dieter. Nation and Citizenship from the Late Nineteenth Century Onwards: A Comparative European Perspective. Bruxelles: Parlement européen, 2008.
• GUERRY, Linda. Genre, nationalité et naturalisation. Encyclopédie pour une histoire nouvelle de l’Europe.
• HONOHAN Iseult, ROUGIER Nathalie. Global birthright citizenship laws – how inclusive? Netherlands International Law Review, 2018, 65(3), p. 337-357.
• INGLEHART Ronald, NORRIS Pippa. Sacred and secular: Religion and politics worldwide, Second Edition. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2011.
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[3leven11]

post sources or this is hearsay. I posted sources that were recent are u blind? Mine was as recent as 2016. The citizenship laws in 2016 did accommodate the dispora, because somali fathers with mixed children were allowed citizenship while the somali mothers with mixed children weren't.

https://booksandideas.net/By-Soil-a...xell1iFK8Srs1OqdHpuFRhV8rTj-GxUhA5C5VX2wOpwog
The map was in here u dumbass. Read and stop being ignorant. The map was found in that source. Keep denying it. Now post your sources or don't reply to me.

By Soil and Blood
Citizenship laws in the worl

Why are you so angry? The 2016 citizenship bill was amended to include mothers.

Somali Citizenship Bill - Legal Action Worldwide

It is vitally important to define who is eligible to receive Somali citizenship and as a pre-requisite to the reform of the electoral law. LAW is the technical legal advisor to the Ministry of Interior and Federal Affairs (‘Ministry of Interior) in Somalia on the draft Citizenship Bill, due to...

www.legalactionworldwide.org

 

[CanoGeel]

If you're mom is Somali but your dad isn't , you're either

1) Ajnabi or
2)Wecel

 

[abdullah233]

If you're mom is Somali but your dad isn't , you're either

1) Ajnabi or
2)Wecel

There's a maternally somali half j4reer kid on twitter saying we have to stop the bantu expansion

 

[Libaax-Joore]

No abtirsi means your not somali

f*ck you, I love my reer abti

 

[CanoGeel]

UFC is lit tonight

 

[Octavian]

UFC is lit tonight

indeed

 

[Abdulahi Abdulahi]

Why are you so angry? The 2016 citizenship bill was amended to include mothers.

Somali Citizenship Bill - Legal Action Worldwide

It is vitally important to define who is eligible to receive Somali citizenship and as a pre-requisite to the reform of the electoral law. LAW is the technical legal advisor to the Ministry of Interior and Federal Affairs (‘Ministry of Interior) in Somalia on the draft Citizenship Bill, due to...

www.legalactionworldwide.org

This wasn't passed.
"Below is a table summarising the key differences between the current law and the (proposed Bill.) "
Your own sources allude to this. It says "proposed". Come with the actual passed bill. I don't think anything changed.
As of Nov. 2017

Somalia: Whether persons born in Somaliland and in the Ogaden region of Ethiopia are entitled to Somali citizenship; citizenship status of women married to foreign nationals; requirements and procedures to obtain and reacquire Somali citizenship (201

www.refworld.org

"
Somalia: Whether persons born in Somaliland and in the Ogaden region of Ethiopia are entitled to Somali citizenship; citizenship status of women married to foreign nationals; requirements and procedures to obtain and reacquire Somali citizenship (2015-November 2017)"
Somalia for the W again.

 

[Ras]

It depends on what you mean by Somali.

Ethnically they'll always be Somali.

Nationally also.

However not according to our clan system which is really where Somalinimo comes from.

 

[Jiron]

Yes I do

 

[Abdulahi Abdulahi]

The proposed bill to changed the citizenship laws was repelled. Currently as of 2020 the 1962 one is the one that is our citizenship law. Alx we Somalis aren't cucks. Why change something that has worked for us since 1962? We won't appease kuffars and ajnabis. hell no.

 

[Abdulahi Abdulahi]

There's a maternally somali half j4reer kid on twitter saying we have to stop the bantu expansion

landheere waaye. We will adopt him.

 

[CanoGeel]

Just like America has a one drop rule so does Somalia and Somaliland.

By Soil and Blood

Which countries make it easiest for the children of immigrants to obtain citizenship, and which countries make it the most difficult? This essay gives an overview of birthright citizenship, which may be acquired by soil or by blood and may also include particular conditions or discriminations...

booksandideas.net

Look at the hatched areas Somalia is among them that means these are countries thag does not allow women to transmit their citizenship rights to their children and their ajnabi husbands; so Somalia is one of the countries that discriminates women who have non somali children; aswell as somalialand. in somaliland also its through Jus Sanguinis (blood right) the father must be somali. There u go if the father doesn't have somali citizenship the mother cannot possible pass it onto her children with an ajnabi. Another thing, having an abtiris determines that you are a somali if you don't have this basic requirement your an ajnabi.

Alx keep it that way

 

[Abdulahi Abdulahi]

https://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain/opendocpdf.pdf?reldoc=y&docid=4c599c6a2

Somaliland also has a based citizenship law read it, all paternal side.

Alx keep it that way

Bro i fear these feminist cows and male betas are not gonna give up trying to change it. They tried in 2016 but failed because it wasn't passed. That was a close call.

 

[prod9th]

They're both half breed. No difference what so ever....if you marry out your offspring won't be full Somali and after a couple of generations there won't be any trace of your existence.

But somalispot went crazy celebrating Ilhan Omar as a Somali victory ‍

 

[CanoGeel]

https://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain/opendocpdf.pdf?reldoc=y&docid=4c599c6a2

Somaliland also has a based citizenship law read it, all paternal side.

Bro i fear these feminist cows and male betas are not gonna give up trying to change it. They tried in 2016 but failed because it wasn't passed. That was a close call.

NOT UNDER MY WATCH

 

[Vanessa]

The answer is obvious, yes.

 

[Dibleyy]

The reason why Somali men are obsessed with saying that their lineage passes through them and not Somali women is because they want access to non Somali women but do not want Somali women to do the same. It’s pretty much just hypocrisy, most of the mixed ones who tend to stray from their dhaqan and deen have Somali fathers it’s just facts. Personally even my half Filipino cousins are so out of touch with their Somali side and yearn to be accepted by their Asian half, my friends cousins are even ashamed to be half Somali and say their only Portuguese

 

[Abdisamad]

The answer is obvious, yes.

How can you consider a mixed kid a Somali?

 

[Benzo]

The reason why Somali men are obsessed with saying that their lineage passes through them and not Somali women is because they want access to non Somali women but do not want Somali women to do the same. It’s pretty much just hypocrisy, most of the mixed ones who tend to stray from their dhaqan and deen have Somali fathers it’s just facts. Personally even my half Filipino cousins are so out of touch with their Somali side and yearn to be accepted by their Asian half, my friends cousins are even ashamed to be half Somali and say their only Portuguese

Just cuz the religion and culture don’t work in your favor doesn’t mean Somali men are obsessed hypocrites. Put your feelings to the side and think rationally.

Another thing I find hilarious is that some of you are running with the false ass narrative that kids with Somali moms and ajnabi dads are more in touch with Somalinimo then kids with Somali dads and ajnabi moms.

A kid with an ajnabi father, could speak fluent Somali and know everything about Somali culture and history but would still be an ajnabi. This is always a touchy subject for females, lord knows why.