Adultery is for married people. My point was that they have it wrong. You don't need 4 witnesses for rape so in that I agree with you. Why would there be 4 witnesses to a rape unless it was done in public? whereas when accusing someone of adultery you need four witnesses the wisdom behind this is that it is impossible to prove so you should mind your business. Get it?NFD
Adultery is when two adults who aren’t in a legal marriage consent to have sex, but there isn’t consent in rape, therefore, I don’t know how these scholars came to that conclusion. Secondly, DNA testing via the semen, pubic hair or skin left on the victim is beyond reasonable doubt unless it is tampered with during testing. Even when that happens, a new testing could be done which absolves or incriminates the accused. Malaysia and Indonesia both use it with the tacit approval of their ullemma that it strengthens the spirits of the law under Islamic law. Why would 4 people watch a rape taking place? It’s impossible to prove and rapists will win.
Exactly!! Thank you.Adultery is for married people. My point was that they have it wrong. You don't need 4 witnesses for rape so in that I agree with you. Why would there be 4 witnesses to a rape unless it was done in public? whereas when accusing someone of adultery you need four witnesses the wisdom behind this is that it is impossible to prove so you should mind your business. Get it?
@MckenzieThe same scholars who reject DNA are the same ones who rejected the use of mobile phones or TV to listen to Qur'an. Some people are so backwards they don't welcome any piece of technology designed to help you, in the irrational fear that it is "bidcah".
All blinded by clans and have a problem with old folks plus corrupt leaders who do not have the interest of the people at hand but just to fill their pockets plus cause divisionHawiye, isaaq and daarod are all the same. There is hierarchy and certain people can get away with most thing. But they will all point the finger at each other. I wish night king came to somalia and slaughtered them all
The government should arrest these fools.They are arguing dna evidence is unislamic and the rapists and murderers should be freed.
@GBTarmy @Crow nacaala iyo waxa tihiin ba waasa magaca puntland bey ku ciyaarteen i havent been to a somali restaurant or any somali gathering ever since the day of infamy ceeb i cant kaftan with other maryooles cause they will just respond by saying kufsi land
To add insult to injury now your elders are defending rapists and murderers of childern nacaala shaidanka ku yaal these elders should be killed
Hear there reasoning they are not capable of doing their own critical thinking kulaha we dont expect the verdict abahaa waaas guun guun dhashay wallahi dhadkan magacaa puntland bey dhulka dhigeen
Somalia has joined the civilised world in convicting rapists by using DNA evidence for the first time. Is this haram because there must be four eyewitnesses to the rape taking place under Shariah? Or, is this a misconception and impossible to present 4 witnesses because who watches a rape taking place and not intervene? The DNA has proven to be accurate in forensic investigation in rape cases, is it the right course of action? Have your say.
In first for Somalia, DNA used to convict rapists .
The Bureau of Forensic Science said in a statement that Somalia had "joined, for the first time, the rest of the world in utilising science to solve a heinous criminal case".
MOGADISHU (AFP) - Somalia has for the first time used DNA evidence to obtain a criminal conviction, sentencing three men to death on Sunday for the gang-rape and murder of a 12-year-old girl, the Bureau of Forensic Science said.
The country got its first-ever forensic laboratory in 2017 in the semiautonomous state of Puntland, seeking to tackle widespread sexual violence in a country where two decades of conflict and turmoil have put justice out of reach for most.
The bureau said in a statement that Somalia had "joined, for the first time, the rest of the world in utilising science to solve a heinous criminal case".
In February, the kidnapping of 12-year-old Aisha Ilyas Adan - who was gang-raped and tortured to death, her body dumped outside her parents home - sparked outrage and protests in the region.
Human Rights Watch has described rape as "normal" in Somalia, with police often failing to take cases seriously.
The Puntland state government enacted a Sexual Offences Act in 2016, which criminalised sexual offences and imposed tough penalties.
The central government in Mogadishu is still working on adopting Somalia's first-ever national rape laws, with a new Sexual Offences Act adopted by ministers in May 2018. It still needs approval by parliament.
About 10 suspects were arrested in connection with Adan's rape and murder.
State prosecutors said 37 DNA samples were taken from the suspects and stored in the lab, which cannot at present analyse such material.
The samples were sent to neighbouring Kenya for processing, which linked three of the suspects to the crime.
High court judge Abdinur Jama Hussein on Sunday sentenced the three "to the death penalty for kidnapping, raping, and murdering Aisha Ilyas."
In Somalia, the death penalty is carried out by firing squad.
Since these clan elders have 0 honor and 0 sense of justice to anybody other than their tribe id suggest them to be jailed for trying to defend a rapists actions
I met a Somali professor who teaches biology at our local university. He is young and came here in his teens. Has two Phds, one in biochemistry one in Biology, speaks Somali fluent and is in his early 40s. We can't kill someone like that.Sometimes you just have to start over. Execute anyobe over 40 and start over