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The Somali stories fit neatly into this group of ancestor myths, in which the theme of the tree, descent from the sky, and the bringing of an alien being into human society by the offer of a bride, are combined in various ways.

I think our ancestors saw something, the same myth is shared amongst cushites it's kinda crazy.
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Daarood abtiris is fake beyond Ismaaciil Jeberti, it's clearly made up. The truth is, the people who have preserved the original abtiris are those who call themselves Samaale. It's clear that 'Samaale', is just Soomaali and that we are all Samaale/Somali.
Maybe you been conditioned a bit to much in urban qabyalad where sheegatos exist and think it's some real threat. War qof magac iska sheegan karo in Somalia is impossible as u can ask for their location in Somalia or abroad, their jifi location, u can ask for their grandfather nickname and find what region uses it.

Besides claiming another lineage essentially makes u a wecel in Somali culture and kills your social status plus it's horrific Islamic dambi not even forgiveable like shirk. Plus forget qabyalad, sultanate cultures wanted to know more your status once lineage, nation is confirmed to identify if your noble or gun(nomad, farmer, coastal, soldier, poet, aristocracy isimo, waxgarad or educated, religious class, merchants, m1dg1, slave, ali beesteen hunter and gatherer) but these ones the archaic humanoids(were treated no different to animals not buried at all hence why their fossils exist globally as their probably just mentally handicapped like the ppl we call disabled back then.

If u think qabyalad is bad in PL qabyalad is then segmented on sultanate ethics and everyone stuck with their class, infact they socially work like this even till today when the truth arrives in Somalia.

It's impossible trust me to fake it in reality. Besides u can't just make up lineage it's handed down like quran recitation is are u going to say quran is fake because it was handed down by mouth and still is by hafids.
 
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Maybe you been conditioned a bit to much in urban qabyalad where sheegatos exist and think it's some real threat. War qof magac iska sheegan karo in Somalia is impossible as u can ask for their location in Somalia or abroad, their jifi location, u can ask for their grandfather nickname and find what region uses it.

Besides claiming another lineage essentially makes u a wecel in Somali culture and kills your social status plus it's horrific Islamic dambi not even forgiveable like shirk. Plus forget qabyalad, sultanate cultures wanted to know more your status once lineage, nation is confirmed to identify if your noble or gun(nomad, farmer, coastal, soldier, poet, aristocracy isimo, waxgarad or educated, religious class, merchants, m1dg1, slave, ali beesteen hunter and gatherer) but these ones the archaic humanoids(were treated no different to animals not buried at all hence why their fossils exist globally as their probably just mentally handicapped like the ppl we call disabled back then.

If u think qabyalad is bad in PL qabyalad is then segmented on sultanate ethics and everyone stuck with their class, infact they socially work like this even till today when the truth arrives in Somalia.

It's impossible trust me to fake it in reality. Besides u can't just make up lineage it's handed down like quran recitation is are u going to say quran is fake because it was handed down by mouth and still is by hafids.
I agree with this but the Irir one has been fabricated. The only reason why the Darood Abitirsi has a possibility of being true is because they are not the only Jabartis in the world. The muslims of Tigray are Raya, Jabarti, and Agame.
 

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I agree with this but the Irir one has been fabricated. The only reason why the Darood Abitirsi has a possibility of being true is because they are not the only Jabartis in the world. The muslims of Tigray are Raya, Jabarti, and Agame.

Sheikh Ismacil Jabarti lived in the 13th Century, was buried in Yemen Zabid, He was Arab as the lingua franca language then was arabic pretty much in any civilised portion of the world.

This skin color shit never existed till the 19th century infact the word pigment(is a 19th century scientific word) which got politicised. Dude even animals don't recognize each other on skin color even within the same species. Lions don't just go join other lions dawg cause they got similar skin tone lol, this was created when fuedal cultures were stunned that civilised world store their Lineage and not just their royal families like them so they concocted let's unite ppl on our color at least cause we got no Lineage to unite on due to their kingdoms making sure they are nameless cawaans πŸ˜‚

Sheikh Ismacil Jabarti 13th Century
Abdirahman Ismacil Jabarti Came to Somalia, Died and was buried in Sanaag but came thru the Bari Coastline in Bareeda(will be visiting there to check it out and camp out and reminisce).

Abdirahman(Daarood) had 5 son

Mohamed( Gave Birth to Kablalax),
Ahmed(Gave Birth to Sade)
Hussein(Gave Birth to Tanade)
Yusuf( Gave Birth to Awrtable).
Issa Daarood

Waa Shanta will uu dhalay.

They also had subsequent kids like:

Harti
Absame
Marehan
Facaye
and some others

But below that is the clans Somalia is aware of like mj, dhulos, ogaden, leelkase, Awrtable. marehan.

If u meet anyone thats darod just ask his name, father name and his grandfather, Their Lineage must go into some jifi, before sub clan, before a wider clan coming into the 5 sons of Darod or what his sons gave birth too. It's a pretty str8 forward not sure why people keep yelling fake fake fake everything.
 
Sheikh Ismacil Jabarti lived in the 13th Century, was buried in Yemen Zabid, He was Arab as the lingua franca language then was arabic pretty much in any civilised portion of the world.

This skin color shit never existed till the 19th century infact the word pigment(is a 19th century scientific word) which got politicised. Dude even animals don't recognize each other on skin color even within the same species. Lions don't just go join other lions dawg cause they got similar skin tone lol, this was created when fuedal cultures were stunned that civilised world store their Lineage and not just their royal families like them so they concocted let's unite ppl on our color at least cause we got no Lineage to unite on due to their kingdoms making sure they are nameless cawaans πŸ˜‚

Sheikh Ismacil Jabarti 13th Century
Abdirahman Ismacil Jabarti Came to Somalia, Died and was buried in Sanaag but came thru the Bari Coastline(forgot the town name.

Their like the
Abdirahman had 5 son

Mohamed( Gave Birth to Kablalax),
Ahmed(Gave Birth to Sade)
Hussein(Gave Birth to Tanade)
Yusuf( Gave Birth to Awrtable).
Issa Daarood

Waa Shanta will uu dhalay.

They also had subsequent kids like:

Harti
Absame
Marehan
Facaye
and some others

But below that is the clans Somalia is aware of like mj, dhulos, ogaden, leelkase, Awrtable. marehan.

If u meet anyone thats darod just ask his name, father name and his grandfather, Their Lineage must go into some jifi, before sub clan, before a wider clan coming into the 5 sons of Darod or what his sons gave birth too. It's a pretty str8 forward not sure why people keep yelling fake fake fake everything.
Do you know of Jabartis other children who were Abdirahmans brothers for example the father of the Eritrean Jabarti.
 
sax this is true. Irir Abtirsi is probably fake Dir and Hawiya are the real people we know as somalis today there is mixes with other ethnic groups aswell. Ismail Al Jabarti was a real person his children still live in Eritea today.
 

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Do you know of Jabartis other children who were Abdirahmans brothers for example the father of the Eritrean Jabarti.

Eritrea Jabarti never met one to ask for his Lineage, I met other eritreans not them. Maybe they could be religious class and Darod the Warrior class who went into Somalia and they went str8 to Ethiopian HQ which was Eritrea not Amhara then.

But I would need to verify if Ismacil Jabarti had other sons as some went to Indonesia as religious disciples and their are ppl who visit his tomb from there.



Not sure why PL isn't tapping into that historical relationship with Indonesia and using Jabarti Disciple legacy.

Noone visiting Isaaq tomb and where the f*ck is isaaq father tomb....ba'aa ma wecel buu ahaa? @Garaad Awal goes buck wild when he hears Darod legacy as far as Indonesia as Jabarti Disciples and it is true Indonesia did convert peacefully no war campaign there so we r astute diplomats plus they had a much more authenric Islam prior to this ww2 variety of low intelligence mixed with horrendous melodies from Roman world, even the Arabic sounds like Bats not soothing and harmonious making u excited at its flow and symphony while rhyming with knowledge pointed out that is verifiable. No wonder prophet told bilal u need to do the Adhan as God loves your ppl voice not the rest of the world as we r original Adam. Ironic since he died, kabah is like some idol devoid of any real spirit but idolatry.
 
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Eritrea Jabarti never met one to ask for his Lineage, I met other eritreans not them. Maybe they could be religious class and Darod the Warrior class who went into Somalia and they went str8 to Ethiopian HQ which was Eritrea not Amhara then.

But I would need to verify if Ismacil Jabarti had other sons as some went to Indonesia as religious disciples and their are ppl who visit his tomb from there.



Not sure why PL isn't tapping into that historical relationship with Indonesia and using Jabarti Disciple legacy.

Noone visiting Isaaq tomb and where the f*ck is isaaq father tomb....ba'aa ma wecel buu ahaa? @Garaad Awal goes buck wild when he hears Darod legacy as far as Indonesia as Jabarti Disciples and it is true Indonesia did convert peacefully no war campaign there so we r astute diplomats plus they had a much more authenric Islam prior to this ww2 variety of low intelligence mixed with horrendous melodies from Roman world, even the Arabic sounds like Bats not soothing and harmonious making u excited at its flow and symphony while rhyming with knowledge pointed out that is verifiable. No wonder prophet told bilal u need to do the Adhan as God loves your ppl voice not the rest of the world as we r original Adam. Ironic since he died, kabah is like some idol devoid of any real spirit but idolatry.
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.
 
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.
πŸ˜‚ is there something in the water supply of oromos that make them act like this? Yahuud?
 

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Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.

Don't Yahudis even inherit their names from men and their Jewishness from mothers or some shit? Men inherit and pass on names in the spirit of Adam being the first man and Eve coming into existence due to his request of a companion as he was lonely. It would be terrifying being in a world where ur all alone, what a mighty test to go thru.

Now in Somali tradition we do honor women very highly as a semen is useless without a womb. Women also count their names thru their fathers showing the adamic spirit. Women are also equal in Somali tradition as their circumised just like men, u can't treat them like uncircumised or gentile women who even jesus said that land isn't dahir 4 me, and ordered his companions to go there.

Circumcision is very important as it was one of the key markers to differentiate between modern man and archaic man(no aql or ilm and only physically human). Adamic la sheegaayo in my view is(wisdom, awareness, intelligence or traits) different to other species who lack it. I think Adam could've looked far different to us today yet he would know all of us due to our common awareness, intelligence, wisdom.
 
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.

The only thing that is 'confusing' is your audacity. You and your father need to find a hobby that doesn't involve talking about Somalis.
 
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.

All Somalia have a Isaaq relatives. There is no point of you bring up Isaaq or qabil stuff on this site. Once he bah dil Isaaq do y'all think he gone praise other individuals? SSpot wasn't created for a musty aids infested Galla braya to insult Somali's
 
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.
Do you and your father also discuss the fake abtirsi of oromo? How you’re a new ethnic group made up of all the other ethnic groups in the horn who were tug of warred into oromia kkkkkkk, how many haplogroups do you lot carry??
 
Confusing thing about Isaaq is they trace lineage back to their mothers this is Haram , and goes against Oral Cushitic/ Arab culture. ive seen theories propose Isaaq are Jewish or Isaaq themselves. I remember my Father telling me before Siad Barre Isaaq were Dir I dont know what came to seperate them. These guys are either Garac's, Esbaheys, Yahood. How can a man sit infront of the earth and publicly claim he uses his mother's name for his clan this is in the Yahoodi Halaka so it is possible they are Jews.
You try to lecture others on Somali history, but if you knew anything about Somalis, you'd realize it's not just Isaaq that use the mother for clan names. It's not strange for mothers to be revered.
 
You try to lecture others on Somali history, but if you knew anything about Somalis, you'd realize it's not just Isaaq that use the mother for clan names. It's not strange for mothers to be revered.
I Know this but it is mainly Isaaq. you cannot Justify being called from your mothers clan name there is no mother clan name in Reer Galan.
 
Do you and your father also discuss the fake abtirsi of oromo? How you’re a new ethnic group made up of all the other ethnic groups in the horn who were tug of warred into oromia kkkkkkk, how many haplogroups do you lot carry??
many oromos are assimilated into somali like Jarso Akichu Hume Doyo Galan Roble.
 
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