Deni Must Be Held To Account

[DR OSMAN]

The Parliament siuation is disgusting after I gathered all the details from Puntites here locally in my town. Apparently Dhoobodaareed entered Parliament 'armed' up with boys which is not allowed in Garowe in all honesty for any clan. It's a capital not a damn war-zone. It's not Mogadishu with bases inside the city. Meeshu ma aha goob dagaal dee. Inu taas samayo wuu ku qaldana.

But Dhoobodareed is right the institution of parliament is equal to all branches of govt and he has a right to finish his 5 year term without being interfered by any other branch of govt. There is strong evidence our parliament institution is corrupt not only thru financial bribery to pass legislation in favor of foreign companies or local agendas. We need a constitutional court so Dhoobodareed takes his case against Deni. It's Sickening a whole region without a constitutional court, no wonder we have to resort to clan.

Our Parliament institution is one of the weakest institution in PL, it's built to please the president not the PL people. Why is it the parliament speaker is always replaced but not the president or VP who finish their terms? This isn't the first time the parliament speaker has been replaced due to corrupt measures. Remember the guy before Sicid Hassan shire in Gaas term was replaced. The guy before him the Leelkase speaker finished his term. Our parliament has become weaker since Gaas has entered office where it's no longer respected that the speaker is elected to 5 year office just like any other branch of government.

Viva Dhoobodareed. Deni is disgusting, you can't change institutional leaders because you have problem with them, you must follow the same law you were elected under or else your office can be put to question. Our parliament speaker reminds me of the PM debacle in Mogadishu where they only serve a year and are replaced by a rigged parliament motion.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I am the same clan as DENI but PL govt is not about clan but institutions and laws, if our govt turns to be clan, then everyone will just go back to his tuulo and ISIMO, I will not be ruled by another clan on clan terms but only the constitution we all signed as clans is the law of the land. The law applies to all clan, if it only applies to one clan and not another, this isn't a law.

A law must be consistent and all must fall under it irrespective of clan, gender, region,religion, etc. No-one is above the law. Deni must be held to account, there can be no 'clan cheerleading' or else our institutions will fail and we will become no different to Mogadishu.

 

[CirJiid]

#IStandWithDhooboDareed
We didn't make puntland to have constitution undermining

 

[kickz]

Like Gaas said, Aran Jaan is causing these issues.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Deni is great leader. To me is best after AY AUN. But he did big mistake to take it personal against dhoobo because of one question from N&N puppet. All the problem created by N&N puppet. latest news Warsangle ismo went to Deni to discuss about this issue today they will try to solve it.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Deni is great leader. To me is best after AY AUN. But he did big mistake to take it personal against dhoobo because of one question from N&N puppet. All the problem created by N&N puppet. latest news Warsangle ismo went to Deni to discuss about this issue today they will try to solve it.

In sha allah it gets solved.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Deni is great leader. To me is best after AY AUN. But he did big mistake to take it personal against dhoobo because of one question from N&N puppet. All the problem created by N&N puppet. latest news Warsangle ismo went to Deni to discuss about this issue today they will try to solve it.

The thing is Dhoobo went thru the proper procedures to get elected. He was sworn in for 5 years. Just because the president or aaran jaan lobby group has issues with him undermines our whole system. It's kangaroo system, this is evidence to the world you will do the same to their 'shell companies' or any major investment. PL is truly a risky environment where the rule of law is undermined by lobby groups or other branches of government.

It's hurting us the ppl who will remain in 'humanitarian' designation for decades to come, not the reconstruction stage which is where we should be aiming for. But we can't begin to reconstruct if the law of the land isn't supreme and above politics or personal opinion. I am starting to use jewish brainpower and learning impartiality in my opinions, you need to take away all emotions, clan pride, egos, and opinions and look at the 'data and evidence' and it's strongly in favor of Dhoobo other then the fact he broke the law by arming up in garowe which is a big no no and their maybe constitutional clause that can be used against him for breaking the law and hence his OUSTING.

Puntites need to learn how to play within the rules, not bend the rules which is what I see most non maxamud saleban clans do and why they never win politics, they bend it by arming up or declaring secession kkkkk and then the maxamud saleban use the constitution against them and 'say see ya sucka' you just broke the rules.

I am not sure why they can't play within the rules non maxamud saleban clans, It's easy playing within the rule of PL, read the constitution before u even enter PL sxb or any local laws in garowe and court system and what penal code they use(quranic, traditional, secular, mix of both), maxamud saleban will use your lack of understanding of our system against you, I am sorry no clan pride will help you truthfully, you will be sitting in a bush or running like galan or non political types.

One of our respected elders was arrested recently in Garowe due to reclaiming our clan inheritance of farm land that is stretching into Garowe town . Garowe precinct comes under the Garowe local govt and they manage all land matters but other duties also like sanitation, town planning, sewage, etc which comes under the garowe local govt power.

We didn't run to our tuulo and get guns nigga and technicals and invade garowe local council, we played within the law and rules of garowe local council. I am not sure why non maxamud saleban in PL do not know the art of system and nidaam and then blame maxamud saleban taking all the power. War niyahow qof walbo ciidaan waa soo kaxaysan kara, stop boasting about shit that every clan do, but there is a system in place and if we don't abide by it, it can mean the city becomes tribal and run by multiple elders and nabadoon and there cannot be progress of any sort.

 

[BenInHer]

Deni actions just cost him sanaag. I cant see us coming back from this. My family is angered by deni.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Deni actions just cost him sanaag. I cant see us coming back from this. My family is angered by deni.

Calm down, the position is designated for Warsangeli, so another Warsangeli has been elected. A Bah Majerten maybe for clan or personal reasons, who knows the guy elected maybe more 'aaran jaaran' friendly but it's all speculation tho.

But I do know Bahnimadu isn't a joke as it can cause a clan to separate from each other as become separate lineages as their 'equal'. For example me and brother of the same mother can unite on bahnimo but if we attack my mother clan, then we are brothers and equal ma garatay and my brother ain't telling me shit and I ain't telling him shit, we declare separate leaders.

The other thing you need to know I am criticising both men as both seemed to have not followed the law. I am being totally impartial dude and just speaking from legal perspective not clan pride or else I will clan cheerlead for deni like u r now clan cheerleading for Dhoobo, clan cheerleading is a vicius cycle and has resulted in nothingness for 30 years but a stalemate.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Aaran jaan have an alliance with musa bixi I believe. Just a theory

 

[DR OSMAN]

Aaran jaan have an alliance with musa bixi I believe. Just a theory

I heard their former al-itihaad dudes who switched name and created a lobby group to influence PL politics towards ISLAMISM since that is their idealogy. Alitihaad is hated in PL. My sub clan Boohaaro killed themselves over SSDF VS ALitihaad. My dad told me how many cousins we lost in that vicious war that spread from bosaso to garowe to galkacyo with dead bodies all over the highway. Boohaaro killing Boohaaro was something new to us and we never want to see such thing again. I don't mind killing an Ali Saleman, it's not my clan ma garatay, lakin when it's family niyahow killing each other over silly politics of 'majertenimo iyo islamism which means love hawiye iyo isaaq' it's basically unacceptable. I don't ever want to see repeat of it for my clan. I want my clan in peace and growing as a priority.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Deni actions just cost him sanaag. I cant see us coming back from this. My family is angered by deni.

Sanaag already part of PL. Stop acting like those SSC jeegaan puppet. Same thing happen with gaas before and sanaag people as they are. This things happens relax.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Yo your actually sick. This guy needs to be boycotted.

 

[DR OSMAN]

View attachment 81842 Yo your actually sick. This guy needs to be boycotted.

No I don't mean I will kill and Ali Saleman, u twisting shit, but wallahi it hurts me more when I know Boohaaro kill Boohaaro, cause it's direct family I know, arintu waa arin dhow markasi. Where-as Ali Saleban in all honesty waa extended family, I don't feel as much 'sorrow or pain' and therefore that's what I meant. Will I kill an Ali Salebaan cuz Hawiye told me hell nah, cuz ali saleman iga dhow hawiye or harti. But when it's gudaha mj, hadee beelo ayaanu kala nahay hadi aad diidan tahay aday ku taala niyahow. I know who I love and trust and listen to, and it's my ISIM

 

[kickz]

In sha allah it gets solved.

I heard there was supposed to be meeting with Deni and Warsangeli Suldaan today to apologize and pay money to him over the dead people killed at parliament, but he has refused the meeting.

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

Sanaag already part of PL. Stop acting like those SSC jeegaan puppet. Same thing happen with gaas before and sanaag people as they are. This things happens relax.

SSC jeegaan puppets? Majeerteenia is the bigger obstacle to us making our own state than Jeegaanland. You're both enemies in my eyes who put their own selfish interests before the greater good. SSC jeegaan puppets?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Reer-Bari Me and you are polar opposite, your the 'sneaky somali type who thinks creating a unity face while injecting ali saleman agenda works' it's old bro, Somalis being doing that same old tired game and it's so overexposed their trained like masters to detect and confront it. That's why u find galan always running, old strategies are things ppl train for over time, it's hard to repeat it and expect success. That's my piece of advice to u.

But it's true I do feel close to Osman mahmoud to the Muse Suldan level, cause I saw boohaaro boys defending jama ali jama in garowe, and i feel close to bah dir cuz my awoowe walked with hersi boqor to ethiopia after the bari sultanates collapsed. I am tied historically to osman mahmoud brother since all my family history is known there.

Where-as Ali Saleban when I meet him, we are quite distant bro, runti, that shared bondness isn't simply there for me, if it wasnt for the hawiye and isaaq being so anti MJ, I would prolly never speak to u in real life ma garatay, like kismayo was about kistada iyo bosaso was about 'orod get you own fish' that's what my father remembers and I can see why now. Tribalism started in 91 and that was due to Aideed making us re-unite and go back to PL, prior to that, I would've succeeded without the need of clan support as I would work hard, learn from those better then me, and create social networks like the good old urban days of Somalia in the 60s.

 

[Soomaaliweyn]

Deni is the most retarded president since Faroole, possibly even the worst

 

[Reer-Bari]

Deni is the most retarded president since Faroole, possibly even the worst

Faroole was a great president. He just lost his mojo.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Faroole was a great president. He just lost his mojo.

Farole only cares for his son u dumb prick, that's all his policies are about, he joins alliances so he can empower his son mohamed farole into positions and begin a political career for him regionally and then federally and eventually his goal is to run for PRESIDENT IN SOMALIA since issa mahmoud are insulted they never reached it, if u don't know this basic attribute of farole, you are screwed. He doesn't give a shit about Ali Saleman and only using them and then discarding when not needed @Cognitivedissonance told you waryaa and it's true your just used bro by issa mahmoud who are anti osman mahmoud. He left aaran jaan cause abgaal dude was given ministry of finance not farole son, see his policies are linked to his son not idealogical or even clan niyahow but family.

U need to go back to osman mahmoud siiba bah dir your master at all times not venture into nugaal or mudug clans, you don't know these clans, their gonna say lets use this dumb prick who doesn't know politics kkkkk and then u see fleeing galan kkk