Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback
Party aides are confident in US vice-president’s ability to bounce back, including a bid for California governor
@Basra what you think ?
Democrats want Kamala Harris to run again
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@Basra what you think ?
The alchemist
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The newer generation Democrats are too left, so they don't know what to draw from other than Kamala, who is the liberal that the establishment needs. They want systemic Liberals, not leftists, and you can't find many of them. The Democrats have always been effed since after the Bill Clinton days. Overall, they're fucked regardless since Bill Clinton and before too. Always been pieces of shits, like the Republicans. It's just that during the Bill Clinton days, Democrats had a favorable reception (besides the scandal, which was a personal thing).
The American Left is truly controlled opposition. This is hysterical.
Keep it a boqol
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Get someone more charismatic and memorable. Americans are majority low iq. They don’t care about actual policy they care about flashy characters and silly superficial personality lores.
I can’t even think of one memorable thing Harris was campaigning for.
I can’t even think of one memorable thing Harris was campaigning for.
The alchemist
VIP
Kamala was an utterly evil character who supported Israel. That woman never stood for anything. The two women that almost became presidents were arguably worse scum than the men. Hillary Clinton is destroying a whole country in North Africa, and Kamala Harris, who is the personification of elite interests mixed-race token, a mix of Obama, Hillary, and coasted mostly on what Joe Biden did, that people were tired of. She speaks like a corporate CEO who pretends to relate to people and says what her personal polling told her was trending. No one wants that. You got to suck ass if Trump, the most absurd guy wins over you. Kamala should have won easily. People were desperate to have Trump thrown out of politics for good, and she did not punch above the luxury of free support, which was nearly a win.
Donald TrumpDemocrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback
Party aides are confident in US vice-president’s ability to bounce back, including a bid for California governorwww.theguardian.com
@Basra what you think ?
is the only man alive that make a blaq women quit or STFU. That hybrid got amus mouthed after election 
Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback
Party aides are confident in US vice-president’s ability to bounce back, including a bid for California governor
@Basra what you think ?
Bad idea. She will lose. America is NOT ready for a woman president! Base Americans
The Democrats wanted to run it back with Biden until Trump cooked him in the face off. They're actually so out of touch 
Post Obama Democrats are actually so washed.
•2016: Hilary vs Trump was a mismatch
•2020: Sleepy Joe won because of Covid
•2024: Kamala lost because she was literally the VP during the Genocide
Post Obama Democrats are actually so washed.
•2016: Hilary vs Trump was a mismatch
•2020: Sleepy Joe won because of Covid
•2024: Kamala lost because she was literally the VP during the Genocide
Kamala didnt lose cuz of a genocide.most americans did not care about tht.The Democrats wanted to run it back with Biden until Trump cooked him in the face off. They're actually so out of touch
Post Obama Democrats are actually so washed.
•2016: Hilary vs Trump was a mismatch
•2020: Sleepy Joe won because of Covid
•2024: Kamala lost because she was literally the VP during the Genocide
I think I saw like one of major official polls I can't remember which one but it said post election something like 29% of voters who typically vote for Democrats didn't vote for Kamala because of the genocide.
Look I'm not saying it's the sole reason she lost but 29% is still significant.
The alchemist
VIP
People were very fed up with the Israeli belligerent genocidal activities. It would revitalize her momentum big time if she had distinguished herself from Biden in that regard.
Not really. Only the far left tht everyone makes fun of was the only ones caring for tht. Kamala lost for the same reason hillary clinton lost. America does not want a women prez. Only black men were the only men who majority voted for kamala. White/latino/asian men all voted trump. Kamala lost 5 states tht biden won in 2020. It is wht it is. The dems knew trump would win and biden wanted to save face by telling kamala to lose for him. Before trump won he said he would arrest and deport those palestine student protestors and hes doing just tht.
The alchemist
VIP
Leftists are the most outspoken, but outside the Bible Belt, Americans were convincable in not to do the genocide. I'm talking about the conflict itself, which was heating up to the point where people had to see dead children on the news every day (that gets to your pysche). The American political scene is too compromised by AIPAC but many Americans on the ground, both on the right and liberal side (not just leftist), were positive for a cease fire but the Democrats and the Republicans never gave them that option. Again, Biden lost a lot of the political juice from being dicked aroud by Netanyahu and Trump got the same critizism. The biggest issue with Kamala was that she followed Bidens template, if she stood for a ceasefire from an American interest perspective, she would see much support.
When Obama was critical of Israel at the terminal stage of his run, it was well recieved, despite being a last minute ditch.
Even psudeo-Zionist who lean on the Israeli side felt like a ceasefire was appropriate. A lot of Liberals, not just leftist and center left people found Kamala to be a person with no real human esscence in the political arena. That position would have given her something, since as I told you, they felt she never did anything but folow the Biden layout.
Hilary had too much dirt on herself by the time she ran. She had done monstrous things in Libya, people were tired of the Obama Era and they saw her as a political weazle jumping on that momentum. Trump during that run was strong and had better rhetorical skills. Americans ejoyed the idea of her getting bullied because they saw her as a representation of the bad political elite of Ameirca, which was true.
With regards to Trump, even his die hard fans are today critising him for falling into Israels frame. They think his nationalizing, nativist language was compromised whenever Israel comes and gets what it want.
Kamala who had 3 months to run for president was not trying to be president. Ur still talking as if she or the dems wanted her to win. They gave the presidency to trump. Since when have u heard of someone running for president all year (biden) and then at the end of the year in August telling everyone to vote for the vice by november. The problem she had was agreeing to be the fall person. She should of just told biden to loss fair and square. With the israeli thing the average americans hate for brown/muslim people far out weigh their anger towards wasting tax payer money on war.
Now when it came to hillary. The emails and all tht was bullshit lol but for a reality tv star to beat someone with 30 year political experience is a mindfuck. Sure hillary won the popular vote but still lost. Now were here where the same ppl who ed and moaned about emails are fine tht a 34 felony convict is president. The ones who looked at hillary as elite and thought a billionaire wasnt an elite.
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The margin she lost by was about 2%…. It is politically illiterate to think Gaza didn’t have an effect
The alchemist
VIP
Kamala definitely had a big chance of winning if she played it better. It was set up for her to do so (why are you pretending she was not leading half the race?). If she stood for things that would have given her momentum a revitalization. Part of being a politician is to set a paradigm, not just reflect people's opinions, since they can change and be influenced.
Again, you're conflating the critical problem most people agreed to despite holding divergent deeper sentiments. Many people wanted the ceasefire despite being on the side of Yahuud even. That could have been her winning ticket if she had played on morality and regaining American agency in that foreign policy position, since people like a good ethos appeal in the political arena. Ceasefire is not anti-Israeli or pro-Palestinian for a lot of Americans, and that alone was a potent option.
Hillary's legacy was garbage by the time she ran. 30 years of evil is how the people saw it, and Trump was the symbol that overturned that. People saw her as a devil. Trump had too much on her, and it was a symbolic defeat of what they thought was a deeply entrenched structural problem.
I'm well-versed in the actual sentiments of Americans. You don't have to repeat that. Yet, you're missing important nuances that are critical. The majority of Americans today are dissatisfied with Trump and Israel. Irrespective of brown hate, that is a fact.
The brown-hate thing is an oversimplification that masks many complex realities. Both the left and the right today are aware that their involvement in creating and inciting conflict in the Middle East was a mistake. Trump's previous run was big on ending wars, and the majority of Americans saw that as a positive. Your view that they hate brown people (which is partly true) to the point where they're blood thirsty for their deaths is a tad bit absurd. America is an imperialist country, and it holds that legacy, but there is a rationale of self-interest in that evil (and more complexities when you see the shift between the political elites and the masses that are both deeply flawed and immoral in many ways). In that equation, people can be channeled because many are actually on the majority favorable, with some additional on the tipping scale, outside the Bible belt, with many conservatives being disillusioned with their nativist identity when Israel is basically representing the largest factor in that compromise. There is a reason why, growingly, the Ron Paul type attitude and foreign policy libertarianism view of non-involvement (which entails removal of support for Israel) is growing stronger among the right (but this is another topic itself).
These were the numbers of how Biden's unconditional support and letting Israel push for an intensive genocide was a big problem among Americans across the board, no matter who they favored:
The polls are showing you what I said:
She could tip the scale heavily because the people need a leader to stand on what they want, weakly support, or what they are unsure about.
There is a lot of demographic nuance that was a gold mine for her, and she failed to tap and guide that potential. That is the work of a politician to see the signal in the masses and give it form and structure around leadership.
A lot of Americans saw Biden as a central figure in the genocide. Why? Because they thought his foreign affairs positions created more friction than solutions. What did Trump propose when he came back, fucking World Peace. I'm not even exaggerating. The guy came and said he would solve the Democrats' worldly involvement that created many problems for the world and Americans. Trump came in as the fixer, the solution man, the quick resolver. Harris never spoke significantly about how Biden had failed and how she could fix the problems they were involved with. That honest appeal would have gotten her big support. The most pronounced and glaring factor was the genocide occurring, where Biden's unconditional support and aid for Israel, in handling that conflict, was a failure. When Kamala came in, they saw the same bullshit. They think, why would they want another "etc"?
Bill Clinton was the greatest president
-balanced the budget
-5 percent gdp growth
-crime bill was passed and he cut welfare
-Invested in tech
-cut military spending
-NATA the best free trade agreement known to man
-oversaw the most job growth in us history
I wish I was an adult back then
Hillary Clinton lost cause she ignored the working class in the rust belt every every election since 1992 has gone towards the anti elitist Candidate who promised change (except 2020 ) trump just copied Ross Perot
Most Americans are easily deceived these people cheered for the Iraq war they don’t give a shit about people who die in the Middle East
They made 4 big mistakes
-identity politics which pissed of every white person and parent since they don’t what there kids going to bathroom with grown men
- Ignored the working class in the rust belt which lead to the rise of trump even safe haven blue states like California and Illinois are losing residents which means less electoral college points They also blatantly lied about Biden mental health
-Arrogantly Assumed Hispanics would always vote dem and that Texas and Florida would turn blue we have seen the opposite happen
-They ran there party like a monarchy everyone has to wait there turn so boring incompetent fossils like chuck Schumer are favored over the more progressive young senators
-Every major city is run by a democrat and they look disgusting take a tour of downtown San Francisco and you will see what I’m talking about people are noticing and are voting with there feet
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