Current system of federalism in Somalia

[Yusuf M]

you talk about federalism then immediately start talking about confederalism, somaliland and puntland are not "federal" states at all. they govern themselves without intervention from the central government (somaliland itself doesn't even claim to be part of this central governments nation) that is a confederate system. a federal system requires the states to take a backseat to the fgs government, that is not happening. these states are instead on the same level as the fgs, they negotiate with the fgs over national policy and can, and do, refuse to cooperate when they wish. they engage in their own foreign policy, make independent trade deals, police their own borders etc. when multiple independent entities exist under a single nation that is not a federal state, it is a confederate state. whether you think its a good system or not is another subject the fact that you call the fgs "overlords" already shows you aren't interested in actual federalism, though, and prefer the confederate status quo

We need Confederate States of Somalia. Xamar is broken and can not be trusted.

 

[Ferrari]

we should federalize more by federalizing the SNA. All states should provide equal number of soldiers, and these soldiers should take their orders from their maamul presidents first.

this will cripple villa somalia president mf like farmaajo who tries to misuse the SNA like they are his bodyguards.

 

[Yusuf M]

we should federalize more by federalizing the SNA. All states should provide equal number of soldiers, and these soldiers should take their orders from their maamul presidents first.

this will cripple villa somalia president mf like farmaajo who tries to misuse the SNA like they are his bodyguards.

The so called central government based in Xamar must be kept as weak as possible. All the power to confederation.

 

[Ferrari]

The so called central government based in Xamar must be kept as weak as possible. All the power to confederation.

absolutely. Until Somalis can trust each other again, and we can produce presidents who aren't clannists, abusers of power and corrupt.

right now, entrusting all the money and army to a guy you know will misuse it is just stupid.

 

[Muzaffer]

after reading the thread I'm now sure that Somalia is a shithole and will continue to be because we have many people with shithole brains.

 

[convincation]

My people will never rise

 

[Abu Hesi]

My people will never rise

First, the South needs to rise and be completely secure.

 

[Macawisley]

I think Somalia should take the same path as UAE Emirates

6 Emirates (PL, GM, HS, KG, JL + Banadir)

As 5 main FMS’s states are built Banadir should be the last one with special privileges until the constitution is finalised.

 

[Ilamos07]

I think Somalia should take the same path as UAE Emirates

6 Emirates (PL, GM, HS, KG, JL + Banadir)

As 5 main FMS’s states are built Banadir should be the last one with special privileges until the constitution is finalised.

7 Emirates (Somaliland)

 

[Macawisley]

7 Emirates (Somaliland)

Somaliland is already an emirate of its own already and calls its own shots dadkaas weey tashteen

 

[Muzaffer]

 

[Ilamos07]

Somaliland is already an emirate of its own already and calls its own shots dadkaas weey tashteen

I don't dialogue with people who are pro qabiiland. Save that for the newbie.