Crazy news I'm hearing from my family back home in K5 & Addis Ababa

[anonimo]

What is an Afran Qallo Dir? Please elaborate..

And the Somali amongst us, are treated just fine. Don’t spew some b/s lies that aren’t true.

Don't take the bait bro.

Most of the accounts posting in this thread are not who they claim they are and are most likely trolls.

 

[Karim]

Look at all these Laangaabs wishing ill on Abdi iley and Ogadens lmao. Even if Abdi iley is dethroned and fired from the office another Ogaden from Rer Abdille will be appointed. Dir will forever be Ogaden/Oromo subjects in Ethiopia... Choose to be part of K4 and be oromized quickly or stay with your ill tempered aggressive Somali brother. Choose wisely!!

 

[Darawalka]

Oromo is 2nd for real? Nah that's too much. You want to suffer the same fate as afran qalo dirs?

What happened to Afran Qalos dir?

 

[Darawalka]

Sadly the Gurgura that live in Eastern Hararghe call themselves Oromos after they adopted agriculture same with Jarso, Akisho, Barsuuk and other Dir clans.

Will they ever re-claim their Somalinimo or are they completely lost people?

What about Afran Qallo Hawiye? What's their stance? I think that's my relatives on my dad's side, know nothing about them though other than they live in Babile and speak Somali

 

[Factz]

What about Afran Qallo Hawiye? What's their stance? I think that's my relatives on my dad's side, know nothing about them though other than they live in Babile and speak Somali

You're talking about Karanle brother. Yes, they speak Somali and still consider themselves Hawiye. However, they are victims of Afran Qallo expansion since Karanle are native to Babile and Oromos want to incorporate the Babile Woreda within Oromia. All of this is happening because of that devil Abdi illey in power.

 

[NourUgaas]

Look at all these Laangaabs wishing ill on Abdi iley and Ogadens lmao. Even if Abdi iley is dethroned and fired from the office another Ogaden from Rer Abdille will be appointed. Dir will forever be Ogaden/Oromo subjects in Ethiopia... Choose to be part of K4 and be oromized quickly or stay with your ill tempered aggressive Somali brother. Choose wisely!!

Dir will be the New President, we've been President before, the Gadabursi and Dir were the first to ever enter politics in Ethiopia. It's not new to us. I guarantee you. Either Ciise or Gadabursi. Or else it will be civil war.

Sitti and Harawo will go their own way 100%.

Darods can rule themselves.

Majertenia should focus on the ex convicts who are taking their women and producing new Aminahs as we speak.

 

[Darawalka]

You're talking about Karanle brother. Yes, they speak Somali and still consider themselves Hawiye. However, they are victims of Afran Qallo expansion since Karanle are native to Babile and Oromos want to incorporate the Babile Woreda within Oromia. All of this is happening because of that devil Abdi illey in power.

Wait, so there are no Hawiye that were also absorbed by the Oromos into the Afran Qallo. Because when I met with my aunt - the one I was telling you about that's very Somali like despite not having grown as one bc of the culture still staying strong in her family - she said she met her relatives in Babile and said they only spoke Somali. She says the lineage is Hawiye - Afran Qallo

 

[Darawalka]

You're talking about Karanle brother. Yes, they speak Somali and still consider themselves Hawiye. However, they are victims of Afran Qallo expansion since Karanle are native to Babile and Oromos want to incorporate the Babile Woreda within Oromia. All of this is happening because of that devil Abdi illey in power.

I think what happened with my grandfather was he was from Karanle Hawiye - explaining why his brothers who stayed in Babile are not Oromo-fied and are still Somalis thru and thru. My grandfather settled more inwards and married his Oromo wife and he was then given a Afran Qallo lineage. But his nephews and nieces and their families still in Babile are Somali which was what my aunt - my dad's half-sister (same father) - confirmed when she went to visit them

Seriously bro @Factz you're helping me piece my origins lol. Are there any Karanle Hawiye users here? Should I make a post?

 

[Karim]

Dir will be the New President, we've been President before, the Gadabursi and Dir were the first to ever enter politics in Ethiopia. It's not new to us. I guarantee you. Either Ciise or Gadabursi. Or else it will be civil war.

Sitti and Harawo will go their own way 100%.

Darods can rule themselves.

Darods will rule DDSI for eternity either leave with your dusty tuulos and join the Oromo kilil and be Oromized in 20 years or stay and endure my karbaash KKKkkk you got no choice Laangaab boy
Our vision as Daroods is to rule every Somali fucker in East Africa (except Djibouti).. We rule Somalis in NFD, DDSI and Somalia

 

[Cumar]

Dir will be the New President, we've been President before, the Gadabursi and Dir were the first to ever enter politics in Ethiopia. It's not new to us. I guarantee you. Either Ciise or Gadabursi. Or else it will be civil war.

Sitti and Harawo will go their own way 100%.

Darods can rule themselves.

Majertenia should focus on the ex convicts who are taking their women and producing new Aminahs as we speak.

When did Dir ever hold Presidency in DDSI? Are you talking about ESDL?

That was lead by Habar Awal and was formed on the basis of an Habar Awal-Ciise Alliance made in 1994.

Abdulmajid Xussen. Leader of ESDL Party. Permanent Representative of Ethiopia to the United Nations and leader of Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL).

Eid Dahir, DDSI President 1995-1997.

 

[NourUgaas]

When did Dir ever hold Presidency in DDSI? Are you talking about ESDL?

That was lead by Habar Awal and was formed on the basis of an Habar Awal-Ciise Alliance made in 1994.

Abdulmajid Xussen. Leader of ESDL Party. Permanent Representative of Ethiopia to the United Nations and leader of Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL).

Eid Dahir, DDSI President 1995-1997.

There was a President who was Bahabar Cabdallah who was also part of the ESDL and became President of DDSI. He died. I'll look for his name. He is famous.

 

[NourUgaas]

Darods will rule DDSI for eternity either leave with your dusty tuulos and join the Oromo kilil and be Oromized in 20 years or stay and endure my karbaash KKKkkk you got no choice Laangaab boy
Our vision as Daroods is to rule every Somali fucker in East Africa (except Djibouti).. We rule Somalis in NFD, DDSI and Somalia

You type like someone else on this forum.

 

[Karim]

When did Dir ever hold Presidency in DDSI? Are you talking about ESDL?

That was lead by Habar Awal and was formed on the basis of an Habar Awal-Ciise Alliance made in 1994.

Abdulmajid Xussen. Leader of ESDL Party. Permanent Representative of Ethiopia to the United Nations and leader of Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL).

Eid Dahir, DDSI President 1995-1997.

ESDL wasn't Habar Awal either but nonetheless, these Laangaab fuckers count you as Dir which is disgraceful. Dir are the lowest of the low in Somali hierarchy. I would put the Somali clans hierarchy as following:
.Darood
... Isaaaq
.......Hawiye
......... Rahanwayn
............DIR
............. Madowweyne
.................Other Laangaabs.

 

[Cumar]

ESDL wasn't Habar Awal either but nonetheless, these Laangaab fuckers count you as Dir which is disgraceful. Dir are the lowest of the low in Somali hierarchy. I would put the Somali clans hierarchy as following:
.Darood
... Isaaaq
.......Hawiye
......... Rahanwayn
............DIR
............. Madowweyne
.................Other Laangaabs.

 

[AfranQallo]

I think what happened with my grandfather was he was from Karanle Hawiye - explaining why his brothers who stayed in Babile are not Oromo-fied and are still Somalis thru and thru. My grandfather settled more inwards and married his Oromo wife and he was then given a Afran Qallo lineage. But his nephews and nieces and their families still in Babile are Somali which was what my aunt - my dad's half-sister (same father) - confirmed when she went to visit them

Seriously bro @Factz you're helping me piece my origins lol. Are there any Karanle Hawiye users here? Should I make a post?

You know the Hawiye are not the only ones in Babille. Babille has the warra Mayya as well who are of the Babille clan. It’s all the Babille subclans living there.

 

[Karim]

 

[Karim]

@Cumar Thats Cold man, Thats Cold. HAHAHAHA.. Hawiye as an outcasts lower than DIR of all people. That's a major L wlhi.
@SomaliWadaniSoldier and @XaajiXumbo come collect your disgraceful losses nimanyahow

 

[Cumar]

@Cumar Thats Cold man, Thats Cold. HAHAHAHA.. Hawiye as an outcasts lower than DIR of all people. That's a major L wlhi.
@SomaliWadaniSoldier and @XaajiXumbo come collect your disgraceful losses nimanyahow

From the same source "Genealogies of the tribes of British Somaliland and Mijertein".

Apparently Gaalkacyo had annual hunger games kkk.

Book also mentions the Gabiley clashes. 1 subclan of HA vs an entire subclan of Dir kkk.

 

[Abdalla]

Put yourself in the shoes of the Ethiopian PM. Would you rather appease 200k angry laangaabs and antagonise 4 million Ogadeens in the process?

Abdi Iley is an unsung hero, a misunderstood awliya. His liyuu polis only takes orders from him and nobody else. If he's replaced, the new president has to deal with thousands of liyuu polis militiamen that are loyal to Iley. Iley has positioned himself very well

 

[Cumar]

There was a President who was Bahabar Cabdallah who was also part of the ESDL and became President of DDSI. He died. I'll look for his name. He is famous.

Doubt it.

There is a reason when Ogaaden were in Opposition and backing ONLF Isaaq formed the government. We are the second largest clan there after them. Abdulmajid was the founder of ESDL and both he and Eid Dahir were HA.

"Ogaadeen dominance turned out to be short-lived. By 1994, two Ogaadeen-led governments in the Ethiopian Somali region had failed to unify the region or to establish effective administration, and early in the year fighters of the ONLF became embroiled in violent clashes with EPRDF forces. Meanwhile, lobbying by non-Ogaadeen members of the Somali community had persuaded the central Ethiopian government that an alternative to Ogaadeen hegemony had to be sought. An alternative emerged in the form of the Ethiopian Somali Democratic League or ESDL, a coalition of smaller non-Ogaadeen clans united under the leadership of Dr. Abdulmejid Hussein, then the only Somali minister in the central government, and an Isaaq. In late 1994 the regional capital was moved from the principally Ogaadeen town of Gode to Jigjiga, a less remote, more cosmopolitan community situated in the traditional territory of some small, Daarod clans. In December, the last Ogaadeen President, Abdirahman Ugaas, was ousted in favour of the Secretary of the region’s Executive Committee, Iid Dahir, a key local figure of the ESDL, and an Isaaq like Dr. Abdulmejid. With the electoral confirmation of ‘Iid the following year as regional President and the head of an ESDL parliamentary majority, Ethiopian Somali politics shifted decisively out of the hands of the Ogaadeen and into a new coalition of Somali interests."

Source: http://www.africa.upenn.edu/eue_web/somrev96.htm

This is all a mute point anyways because as long as OG are pro-govt Ethiopia doesn't need the other clans living there. Your dream died the day the OG decided to give up their armed opposition and join the government.