Christianity in the North

Somalis never lived in Saylac when the Labo Qilba musjid was constructed. Harla, were the original inhabitants of Awdal. Somalis migrated to the area later on in the middle ages. Gadabuursi and Cisse were founded in Sanaag, they are expansionist not indigenous.


Ruins of churches have been found in Woqoyi Galbeed. It could be "traders" or it could be ethnic groups in that area who knows. All we know for certain is that Christianity was practiced in Woqoyi Galbeed and Yibir were formerly Jews.

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The mosque of two qiblas was built by Arabs fleeing persecution in Mecca, prior to the Hejira, in the 7th century.

Darood arrives in the 10th or 11th century, Aw Barkhadle/Bu‘ur Ba‘ayr is 12th century. Shaykh Isaaq arrives in the 13th or 14th.

Check your abtirses, boys. Somali names don't become Arabized until the 14th-15th centuries.

The Dadka Hore were at least partly Ethio-Semites/Harla, and they got at least as far south and east as the eastern Nugaal.

The Christian settlements and graves belong to Somalis, not Ethio-Semitic people.
 
What's the timing of these settlements do you think? Preislamic era or Medieval era?

Pre Islam. The Christian settlements, except for a few, became Muslim settlements after Islam arrived to the Horn.

Similar to how Aw Barkhadle was the religious center of an ancient cult and with the arrival of Christianity and later Islam it continued to serve as a religious center because the locals adopted new faith traditions.
 

shum33

Somaliland supremacy
I noticed that islam appealed to people with nomadic culture.This could be because to practice islam you don't need to be attached to a building,a statue e.t.c
If somalis were farmers and christianity was present in the small somali trading posts/city states then christianity would have spread all over the somali territories. Christianity needs a settlement while islam doesn't so its prefered by societies on the move. Islam started in a nomadic somali like culture no wonder other nomadic people from a hard life just like the desert arabs converted to islam e.g the turks in central asia.
There was christianity in the mongol society too the mother of Hulagu khan the man who destroyed baghdad was a nestorian christian and there were entire mongol clans that were nestorian christians. But at the end almost all the mongols converted to islam.
 
The material culture at these sites indicate that they were Somali, not Ethio-Semitic.

I know it’s a hard pill for you to swallow but it’s not that far fetched. Somalis traded with the outside world for millennia.

If so, there will be scholarly comment to that effect. We need more than your wishful thinking.
 
If so, there will be scholarly comment to that effect. We need more than your wishful thinking.

You’re rejecting the work of established archeologists because of your anti Somali bias!

Why don’t you send an email to Sada Mire if you’re so reluctant to accept basic facts?

Btw, your own theory is baseless! Where’s the genetic footprint of the Harla in northern Somalis?
 
You’re rejecting the work of established archeologists because of your anti Somali bias!
Read Sada Mire before you quote her!
Why don’t you send an email to Sada Mire if you’re so reluctant to accept basic facts?

Btw, your own theory is baseless! Where’s the genetic footprint of the Harla in northern Somalis?

Read Sada Mire before you quote her!
The Harla are the ancestors of the Ethio-Semitic Harari people. Look it up. And answer your own question about the Harla footprint in northern Soma:ulyin:lis. It's your logic that's baseless.
 

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Read Sada Mire before you quote her!
The Harla are the ancestors of the Ethio-Semitic Harari people. Look it up. And answer your own question about the Harla footprint in northern Soma:ulyin:lis. It's your logic that's baseless.
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Read Sada Mire before you quote her!
The Harla are the ancestors of the Ethio-Semitic Harari people. Look it up. And answer your own question about the Harla footprint in northern Soma:ulyin:lis. It's your logic that's baseless.

Somali material culture = Somali heritage. Doesn’t matter if it’s Pagan, Christian or Muslim.

Your baseless theory doesn’t hold water hence your desperation. The Harla were an Ethio-Semitic people and their genetic footprint is absent among northern Somalis.

If they inhabited modern day Somaliland, as you claim, their DNA would be present.

Kind of similar to how Ethio-Semitic DNA from Amhara/Tigray/Gurage is present in Cushitic speaking groups like Agaw, Oromo, Sidama etc. because of overlapping territory and intermixing.
 
Read Sada Mire before you quote her!
The Harla are the ancestors of the Ethio-Semitic Harari people. Look it up. And answer your own question about the Harla footprint in northern Soma:ulyin:lis. It's your logic that's baseless.

What "Harla footprint"? Somalis are autosomally pure and almost all the same from North to South. What genetic footprint did the Harla leave? There's no physical evidence they even existed. It's just oral stories and traditions.

Somalis have been in Somaliweyn for millennia, old man.
 
Somali material culture = Somali heritage. Doesn’t matter if it’s Pagan, Christian or Muslim.

Your baseless theory doesn’t hold water hence your desperation. The Harla were an Ethio-Semitic people and their genetic footprint is absent among northern Somalis.

If they inhabited modern day Somaliland, as you claim, their DNA would be present.

Kind of similar to how Ethio-Semitic DNA from Amhara/Tigray/Gurage is present in Cushitic speaking groups like Agaw, Oromo, Sidama etc. because of overlapping territory and intermixing.

What "Harla footprint"? Somalis are autosomally pure and almost all the same from North to South. What genetic footprint did the Harla leave? There's no physical evidence they even existed. It's just oral stories and traditions.

Somalis have been in Somaliweyn for millennia, old man.

The Spot has been through this before.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/harla-tribe-ancestors-of-the-horn.13946/page-2#post-337609

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...-of-the-harla-people.26410/page-2#post-672517

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...om-the-expedition-to-the-nugaal-valley.25522/

The "Harla footprint" was Cuneo's, and he clearly needs to read more widely. You both seem to be confusing Somalis with Samales.

How old is YOUR abtirsi?
 
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The Spot has been through this before.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/harla-tribe-ancestors-of-the-horn.13946/page-2#post-337609

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...-of-the-harla-people.26410/page-2#post-672517

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...om-the-expedition-to-the-nugaal-valley.25522/

The "Harla footprint" was Cuneo's, and he clearly needs to read more widely. You both seem to be confusing Somalis with Samales.

How old is YOUR abtirsi?

I asked you that question. You claim that Harla inhabited the entire north so where’s their genetic footprint? Why can’t we find Ethio-Semitic DNA in ethnic Somalis?

Clans are socially constructed. New clans formed the last 800 years with the advent of Islam. The people who formed these clans existed in the Somali peninsula for millenia. So your argument is groundless.
 
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