@Omar del Sur how is being against China pro-Western imperialism? Its possible to be against both transgressors as they clearly have an anti-Islam agenda.
You're well learned please tell me what the Quran and hadif say about siding against fellow muslims?
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Ideologically, I am in the same camp with Turkey and Pakistan.
I think Turkey and Pakistan are a much better model than the Saudi model.
Now, if it's possible for a Muslim country to not deal with China or the West and to do well- what is the country that is doing that?
If some country manages to actually do that, great- I'm for it. But as far as I know, every Muslim country deals with either China, the West or both.
Is it obligatory for Muslim countries that they do something that is unfeasible? So Muslims cannot deal with either the West or China even if this is not practical for Muslim societies in real life?
If it is not feasible for Muslim societies to neither deal with China, the West and neither prefer a certain side in the current Cold War- then it cannot be obligatory for Muslim societies to take such a position.
If some Muslim country demonstrates that it is feasible then I'm for it but I'm not going to accept a position that something is obligatory that might not even be feasible. That would be like saying it's an obligation for Muslims to double-jump. I would be seriously misguided.
"And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good."
-Surah Al-Baqarah 2:195
"Despite that, the scholars -- both earlier and later -- also quoted this verse as evidence to show that it is forbidden to kill oneself or harm oneself or throw oneself into destruction by any means, based on the general meaning of the words of the verse and by analogy, and they affirmed the basic usooli principle which says: what counts is the general meaning of the words, not the specific reason for revelation.
Fath al-Baari, 8/185
Al-Shawkaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
i.e., do not do that which will bring about your destruction. The salaf had a number of opinions concerning the meaning of the verse. The truth is that what matters is the general meaning of the wording not the specific reason for revelation. Everything that may be called destruction in religious or worldly terms is included in that. This is the view of Ibn Madow al-Tabari."
it very well may be that a Muslim country that did not deal either China, US or both would be throwing itself into destruction.
What would happen if Turkey and Pakistan said "you Chinese are Communists, we're not going to deal with you or the West"... what would happen?
If they really implemented that, I think their economies would collapse and their leadership would be overthrown and replaced with Western puppet leadership.