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I agree 100% the attack on biimaal by these moryaans was completely unprovoked, Marka has always been biimaal territory for centuries, not only do they shamelessly claim land that doesn't belong to them, but burn, kill and plunder until they get what they want. AUN to all biimals that have passed away due to HG moryanism

The conflict ain't as straightforward as you think. It boils down to the agricultural resources. Unlike the Digil, the Biimaal are more assertive about regaining their farmland that the Kacaan nationalised and the Habargidir later took control of in the mid-90's. The HG do not want to let go of the looted plantations whilst the Biimaal want justice. The battles in Marka town are a side show. In actual fact, AS are indirectly in control of Marka town whilst the Biimaal have focused on consolidating their control on the outer suburbs of Marka where they live in and the surrounding countryside. The only thing stopping them from acquiring full control of Degmada Marka is the unwillingness of the Central Government to fully equip the Biimaal militia due to pressure from Habargidir who do not want to see the natives of Lower Shabelle empowered. The anarchic status-quo benefits HG because if the Rule of Law returns, they will lose the Xaram gains they made during the chaos of the Civil War. Hence, why they flirt with AS whilst also forming the bulk of the SNA stationed in Lower Shabelle.
 
Explain to me why every time the US bombs al kabaab, they turn out to be from the Mooryan clan. SH will always be a Dir territory

No, it is a majority Digil territory. I would even argue that the Bantus are the single largest group in LS but they are attached to the clans that formerly owned them, Hence, why you have Biimaal Madow, Geledi Madow, Jiddo Madow etc. Only degmada Marka, parts of coastal Barawe, parts of Kuntuwaareey are Biimaal. Native Hawiye clans also settle in Lower Shabelle such as the Wacdaan, some Murusade and Abgaal in Afgooye district.
 

KULTA

f*ck you im from Mudug
f*ck biimaal i used to think they were innocent ppl until my abti told me what they did during the civil war
 

XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
All ya whiny kids, Merka has always been a hub for Hawiyes: The 13th-century Arab geographer Ibn Sa'id described Merca as the "capital of Hawiyya country". During the 12th century, the cartographer Muhammad al-Idrisi may have referred to the Hawiye as well, as he called Merca the region of the "Hadiye", which Herbert S. Lewis believes is a scribal error for "Hawiye", as do Guilliani, Schleicher and Cerulli.
Funnily, same people argueing Darood has been in the Jubba’s (generally the south) for a good time. But we all know the 1800’s migrations.
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
Tell me which Tuulo do you settle in Degmada Marka? One moment you are preaching Somalinimo, next you are acting like a Cyber Mooryaan. The last Hawiye clan to settle in Degmada Marka was Silcis, they were defeated by the Geledi and became scattered. When the Biimaal arrived in the 17th century, Marka was not a Hawiye settlement. Ilaahay ka baqo! Biimaal have no borders with HG, nor have they ever attacked you in your native Central Somalia. There is only one aggressor in this conflict.
what do you mean by tuulo?

nigga we live in the city of marka itself

we also live in barawe, qoryoley, afgooye..etc

digil and HG don't even fight anymore.

sxb i was born in afgooye my ayeeyo is geledi, stop acting like HG and Digil have this non existent beef.

in fact sheik saakin will appoint a HG vice president soon.
 

Gbyallmeans

Yuusuf direed Founding Father of Ahlu-naar
The conflict ain't as straightforward as you think. It boils down to the agricultural resources. Unlike the Digil, the Biimaal are more assertive about regaining their farmland that the Kacaan nationalised and the Habargidir later took control of in the mid-90's. The HG do not want to let go of the looted plantations whilst the Biimaal want justice. The battles in Marka town are a side show. In actual fact, AS are indirectly in control of Marka town whilst the Biimaal have focused on consolidating their control on the outer suburbs of Marka where they live in and the surrounding countryside. The only thing stopping them from acquiring full control of Degmada Marka is the unwillingness of the Central Government to fully equip the Biimaal militia due to pressure from Habargidir who do not want to see the natives of Lower Shabelle empowered. The anarchic status-quo benefits HG because if the Rule of Law returns, they will lose the Xaram gains they made during the chaos of the Civil War. Hence, why they flirt with AS whilst also forming the bulk of the SNA stationed in Lower Shabelle.
:mjhaps:Haters of Looma oyaan darood tears is indeed sweet, walee Gangsta HG be like :win: 24H while drinking those weak ass darood tears.

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All ya whiny kids, Merka has always been a hub for Hawiyes: The 13th-century Arab geographer Ibn Sa'id described Merca as the "capital of Hawiyya country". During the 12th century, the cartographer Muhammad al-Idrisi may have referred to the Hawiye as well, as he called Merca the region of the "Hadiye", which Herbert S. Lewis believes is a scribal error for "Hawiye", as do Guilliani, Schleicher and Cerulli.
Funnily, same people argueing Darood has been in the Jubba’s (generally the south) for a good time. But we all know the 1800’s migrations.
The inhabitants of the Juba-Tana valley from the 16-19th century were Oromos. Darood conquered everything between Gedo to Garissa in less than 30 years. There is no comparison. Comparing the unlawful theft of the traditional Biimaal and Digil lands who are Muslims and Somalis, to pagan gallas who occupied the region in the Oromo expansion and consuming the Somalis who once lived there.
 

XoosBoos

Hiraab Commander
The inhabitants of the Juba-Tana valley from the 16-19th century were Oromos. Darood conquered everything between Gedo to Garissa in less than 30 years. There is no comparison. Comparing the unlawful theft of the traditional Biimaal and Digil lands who are Muslims and Somalis, to pagan gallas who occupied the region in the Oromo expansion and consuming the Somalis who once lived there.
Nice you evaded my reply above.
 

Arma

GRAND Wizard of MJ SIXIIR
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"water and milk should be carried for the Ethiopians"

- Saalad Cali Jeele, the 'HAWIYE' Governor of Benadir during the 2006-07 conflict.

Odd how these Hawiyes, always chat smack about MJ and AY (AUN), in regards to the Ethiopian involvement in that conflict, even though high ranking Hawiye clan leaders also sided with the Ethios. Men like, the former Galnus leader Qeybdiid and the Abgaal PM at the time, Gedi. Gedi even made sure that not a single Ethiopian soldier set one foot, into Abgaal territory.

It's very telling how they never say a damn thing about Gedi or Qeybdiid, or how much Abgaal benefited from the great HG culling of 2006, as you know: as Abgaal were second class citizens in Mogadishu.

Wallahi MJ, haters are the biggest sh*t talkers and hypocrites in the universe. If you're gonna talk a load of rubbish: make sure your nice and clean.
 

saywalahi

Xamar Living
"water and milk should be carried for the Ethiopians"

- Saalad Cali Jeele, the 'HAWIYE' Governor of Benadir during the 2006-07 conflict.

Odd how these Hawiyes, always chat smack about MJ and AY (AUN), in regards to the Ethiopian involvement in that conflict, even though high ranking Hawiye clan leaders also sided with the Ethios. Men like, the former Galnus leader Qeybdiid and the Abgaal PM at the time, Gedi. Gedi even made sure that not a single Ethiopian soldier set one foot, into Abgaal territory.

It's very telling how they never say a damn thing about Gedi or Qeybdiid, or how much Abgaal benefited from the great HG culling of 2006, as you know: as Abgaal were second class citizens in Mogadishu.

Wallahi MJ, haters are the biggest sh*t talkers and hypocrites in the universe. If you're gonna talk a load of rubbish: make sure your nice and clean.
actually thats factually wrong

ICU was multi tribal organization even ogadens had a hand in it

ethiopians really only killed citizen of xamar

after that they pretty much left letting hizbul islam (an HG organization) take over the city.

nobody calacs about AY and MJ's

after all it was the ETHIOPIAN invasion

and abgaal weren't second class citizens thats just a fucking retarded statement abgaal are the hawiye boqortooyo
 

warculus

pls im broke send moneys
Wallahi MJ, haters are the biggest sh*t talkers and hypocrites in the universe.
You say that but one from your tol started HG bashing in this thread, which was otherwise a positive one.
You can always rely on MJ to shittalk Hawiye even though they didnt even mention you
If people dont have something good or constructive to say, they should just keep quiet regardless of what qabiil they are.
 

Arma

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You say that but one from your tol started HG bashing in this thread, which was otherwise a positive one.
You can always rely on MJ to shittalk Hawiye even though they didnt even mention you
If people dont have something good or constructive to say, they should just keep quiet regardless of what qabiil they are.

Look at this sucker. There's literally 4 comments by your folk, talking about us and how we wish bad on your lot. And that was before @Yonis and his comment.
 
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