Cayn region of North Somalia have decided enough is enough

[Dharbash]

They are currently in the process of establishing some kind of state.
The main players behind this are Cali Geri, although snakes who are also Cali Geri and rep SL/PL have opposed its formation, I have high hopes for this potential state.

In my eyes if all dhulbahante’s do unite together and also with warsans then the formation of they’re state will greatly weaken somaliland.

the main leader behind this from what I heard is a man who lives in Buuhoodle known as ina Cali kamin or something like that.

1 sub clan of dhulbahante can’t do everything by themselves.
Dhulbahantes especially need to stop their division and realise how they are perceived and how fighting within the clan is pointless. All Harti need to come together and assist each other as brothers against the jeegaan.


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[Abdisamad]

Guul inshallah

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[Dharbash]

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I didn’t label them as an enemy. The main struggle the group has faced is supporters who are also Cali Geri but support either the state of somaliland or Puntland (because of income reasons) more than the formation of they’re very own state. The Cali Geri SL/PL supporters are the snakes/enemies not the puntland state.

 

[nomand]

what is Cayn?

that's somaliland creation and the recognised gobols are 18 in somalia.

otherwise this will open a can of worms that will never be closed again until every 2 km will become its own gobol.

 

[World]

Inb4 puntland and somaliland work together to try dismantle this project

 

[Dharbash]

what is Cayn?

that's somaliland creation and the recognised gobols are 18 in somalia.

otherwise this will open a can of worms that will never be closed again until every 2 km will become its own gobol.

Somaliland didn’t create cayn, cayn officially is a part of togdheer but togdheer/burco admin has no control over the large area. It is part of the SSC regions and acts as its own region as there’s heavy military control there.

I can see where the dilemma of every area becoming its own gobol comes in, though cayn is quite big and has controlled itself since forever so should be considered as its own state imo.
This is its size, clearly it has the characteristics of being its own gobol

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Good for them and good for PL the more dhullos leave the state the better for all. Inshallah all ministers, MPs, VP and elders go back to their regions and new state

 

[nomand]

Somaliland didn’t create cayn, cayn officially is a part of togdheer but togdheer/burco admin has no control over the large area. It is part of the SSC regions and acts as its own region as there’s heavy military control there.

I can see where the dilemma of every area becoming its own gobol comes in, though cayn is quite big and has controlled itself since forever so should be considered as its own state imo.
This is its size, clearly it has the characteristics of being its own gobol
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I understand all of that but there are regions in somalia which is way more diverse in politics and tribes for example galgaduud.

So many clans live there from hg, mursade marehan, dir and even few abgaal and gaaljecel.

Every qabil rules it's own land, should we then devide galgaduud into 4 and mudug into 4 also?

Do you see my point creating gobols will further destabilize somalia and create a race for each sub clan to have more gobols up to a point where every sub sub sub sub clan will create a gobol.

Somalis will abuse this.

 

[CirJiid]

Even cayn has jeegans living in it. Good lucks

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

The problem has never been Cayn/Buhoodle, reer Sool flip floppers are the problem. Good luck on your project.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Good for them and good for PL the more dhullos leave the state the better for all. Inshallah all ministers, MPs, VP and elders go back to their regions and new state

Why wait? Send them packing today. PL needs to support this project fully and help speed it up. The sooner everyone goes the better for all concerned.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I understand all of that but there are regions in somalia which is way more diverse in politics and tribes for example galgaduud.

So many clans live there from hg, mursade marehan, dir and even few abgaal and gaaljecel.

Every qabil rules it's own land, should we then devide galgaduud into 4 and mudug into 4 also?

Do you see my point creating gobols will further destabilize somalia and create a race for each sub clan to have more gobols up to a point where every sub sub sub sub clan will create a gobol.

Somalis will abuse this.

It aint our problem you live in a diverse gobols boowe. Mudug is two as far as we are concerned and preexisted before federalism was implemented.

 

[Sandvaer]

I don’t think such state will could exist elsewhere than on paper. Because Somaliland controls a large portion of it and have more influence in the region than the government of Mogadishu.

 

[Lord of Warshiekh]

Big loss

SL looses the nugaal Block

 

[Dharbash]

I understand all of that but there are regions in somalia which is way more diverse in politics and tribes for example galgaduud.

So many clans live there from hg, mursade marehan, dir and even few abgaal and gaaljecel.

Every qabil rules it's own land, should we then devide galgaduud into 4 and mudug into 4 also?

Do you see my point creating gobols will further destabilize somalia and create a race for each sub clan to have more gobols up to a point where every sub sub sub sub clan will create a gobol.

Somalis will abuse this.

Ok...Gaboye, Madowweyne and hawiyes live in cayn region as well

 

[Dharbash]

The problem has never been Cayn/Buhoodle, reer Sool flip floppers are the problem. Good luck on your project.

Sool dhulbahante aren’t involved in this one. They have a tyrannical ruler (cambashe) who doesn’t allow his politicians to assist such movements like the SSC regions state formation. This is strictly cayn/haud dhulos.

 

[nomand]

Ok...Gaboye, Madowweyne and hawiyes live in cayn region as well

you should re-read my post (i said MX,HG,Mursade ect, live in galgaduud not cayn) pointing out that there are regions way more diverse then toghdeer.

 

[Dharbash]

you should re-read my post (i said MX,HG,Mursade ect, live in galgaduud not cayn) pointing out that there are regions way more diverse then toghdeer.

I was also pointing out that cayn is diverse

 

[Samaalism]

Half of degmada buuhoodle is HJ and everything apart from the actual town of buuhoodle is controlled by Somaliland.

 

[Lex Luther]

I understand all of that but there are regions in somalia which is way more diverse in politics and tribes for example galgaduud.

So many clans live there from hg, mursade marehan, dir and even few abgaal and gaaljecel.

Every qabil rules it's own land, should we then devide galgaduud into 4 and mudug into 4 also?

Do you see my point creating gobols will further destabilize somalia and create a race for each sub clan to have more gobols up to a point where every sub sub sub sub clan will create a gobol.

Somalis will abuse this.

Seriously nomand why do you always interject Galmudug into most threads, most comments about you on Galmudug is that it's has many qabiils living there or how Galmudug should be governed by the SFG, all this spells out to us that your jealous of being an stateless individual.

In Jubaland you are nothing and in Galmudug you are border clan, an clan whos Cabudwaaq is situated in Ethiopia, in short there is a reason why HG has 51Mps from the total 89Mps in Galmudug why also retaining the capital and it's Presidency, in short Galmudug is an HG Stronghold.

Galmudug is not diverse it's state is clearly dominated by 1 clan called HG, if it wasn't true then the capital, their numbers in MPs and the Presidency would have been changed like those states in the South, but it didn't and it shows why, because one clan is the dominant factor.

Even the Feuds in Galmudug is about the HGs inner GOT kkkkk.