Capitalism Vs Communism

The ceo of walmart used to be loader. Worked his way up. And he is the boss of a massive company.

Capitalism raises people from poverty. whereas communism drags everyone down
 
Why does it have to be either of those options why not have a welfare state with good workers rights.

Social democracy is a sham that relies on the exploitation of others in place of the workers of your own country. And anyways, when the elites no longer feel threatened, they will roll back on these reforms lightning fast. As you can see with France amd the UK rn.
 
Social democracy is a sham that relies on the exploitation of others in place of the workers of your own country. And anyways, when the elites no longer feel threatened, they will roll back on these reforms lightning fast. As you can see with France amd the UK rn.
Communist love to use words like exploitation and oppression. Where exactly is it?
 

Radical

Been there, done that
Why does it have to be either of those options why not have a welfare state with good workers rights.
That does sound great but there's still the inner faults and greed of capitalism lurking in there, here are the key problems with this

1: the standard of living still relies on the exploitation of the global south/third world countries.

2: The profit motive is tamed at best, but not abolished. That means that corporations and capitalists will still use the state to implement the laws they want.

3: A welfare state with good worker rights and social democracy is not permanent, reforms can always be taken away if the threat of revolution weakens. People used to have something like this in the past but it got rolled back precisely because of the weakening of this threat.

4: why I believe any form of lenient capitalism is inferior to communism is because the goal of communism is a stateless, classles society in which the free development of the individual is the condition for the free development of all, That would include people choosing their own economic future and keeping the fruits of their labour, without the dangers of the ruling class sweeping in and taking everything back.
 

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