CALMONE20###
Roots in Somaliland + Somali Region ✝️
They all speak Arabic to some degree.
Can Chadians,Zanzibaris and Comorians be considered Afro Arabs?
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Liḥyān
Child of Dhu Raydan
baggara?
Nilotic
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The Baggara are a minority and they don't really belong in Chad
Liḥyān
Child of Dhu Raydan
minority? they are pretty much 3mil in a country of 17mil
add in all the other groups that speak Arabic lol
Arabs as a whole, like the Baqara, are the second largest ethnic background but since Chad is uber multi-ethnic this only amounts to like 15% of the population. But, to be fair, many of the other linguistic groups like the NS speaking Toubou are clearly admixed people with Maghrebi and possibly also Cushitic admixture based on their material culture. I get that impression from a lot of the other ethnic groups in the country as well, right down to the Niger-Congo Fulanis.
It's in essence a Sahelian nation. Folks who are cultural and sometimes genetic intermediates between true Sub-Saharans and North-Africans (I kinda count Arabians in this definition).
Nilotic
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I agree with all that you've said; I'm just not a fan of any of the Arab groups in that region. The Zaghawa and Masalit seem to be more Nilo-Saharan than the Toubou and those are the groups I'm referring to when I point out that Chad is mostly Nilo-Saharan.
The Baggara are certainly not indigenous to Chad-Darfur; the Baggara arrived in Darfur in the 14th and 18th Centuries.
Nilotic
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Yeah, tally the Nilo-Saharans together and the Baggara are a minority; plus, they don't belong in Chad.
Just googled Baggara Arabs and they look overwhelming Nilo Saharan.
Hamzza knock it off. In order to claim Arab, it needs to be your first language.
CALMONE20###
Roots in Somaliland + Somali Region ✝️
no we aren't we are cushitic sub saharan africans
Nilotic
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I don't know how representative those Google images are, however, I don't deny that Baggara have some variation.
In either case, the psychology and culture of the Baggara is what matters.
Hamzza
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Maghrebis are Berber, Egyptians are Coptic and we are Cushitic. What unites us is the broad Arab identity. Unfortunately for us, we didn't adopt Arabic as our first language, nevertheless we are still Arab through genealogy and other routes.
CALMONE20###
Roots in Somaliland + Somali Region ✝️
maghrebis and masris became arabised,but we maintained our cushitic somali culture and language. Just because we are Muslim does not mean we are arabised. that is like saying Irish people are latins because they are catholic like italians.
Hamzza
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Do you see that as a W? Keeping in mind that the original Maghrebi Misri culture was much much advanced than Cushitic culture.
A lot of Somalis trace their lineage back to Arabia, so we are Afro-Arab through genealogy.
No they don’t. That has been throughly debunked. It’s 2023. We have genetic testing ect. Ethnic Somalis cannot accurately trace their lineage to Arabs. It’s a myth that our ancestors clearly created to feel closer to the Prophet s.a.w.
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Hamzza
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Ok, we are Afro-Arab through shared interests, geographical proximity and religion marka. Socio-economically, we are more Arab than the real Arabs.
reer
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you can identify as whatever you want. if your 1st language is arabic then youre arab. you can call yourself phonecian chadian berber or whatever it wont change that.
