Can a Somali Gaal be a Somali Nationalist ?

[Inquisitive_]

Can someone that rejects our supreme monotheistic being Eebow, that both the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians worshipped, a term which we still use until this day and no other language does?

Or the monotheistic God we worshipped before the 7 Century along with our Cushitic brethren we referred to as Waaq and named many places after including cities, wells and provinces ?

Or after the 7th century the majestic all power-full creator we refer to as Allah exalted he is, to whom all beautiful names belong to ?

Can a person that reject all these in favour of Europhile conformist Godless doctrine of servitude and peasant self-hate beggary and loyalty to human Europhile occultist deities such as Copernicus, Darwin & Newton really be considered as a Somali nationalist ?

Could you share state secrets with them ? plan's for a first strike against a belligerent blood thirsty Europe threatening invasion? please vote appropriately and explain your stances.

 

[The_Cosmos]

If a Somali Christian can be regarded as a national hero by most Somalis for his nationalist struggle to free his nation from the shackle of colonialism, then you're retarded to really even try and cancel Somali atheists out, just because of your issues.

Somalia is the mother of all Somalis not just those whom you consider 'desirable'.

 

[MARAQ DIGAAG]

Ps.atheists are amongst the biggest qabulists .

 

[bluebird]

They can be but they always think about petty first world things like "omg bring back the dirac say no to jilbab!"

Could a religious muslim be apart of a western government without having to conform outside of their morals? likewise any athiests in somali government can expect the same. they keep their religion in its private realm and away from the public and conform to the Islamic majority

 

[supz]

Firstly, dafuq is this shit? I don't believe in God, means that i bend over backwards to europeans? Are you tapped? war ninyahow look in the mirror and then proceed to contemplate. "servitude", "self-hate" what do you mean nigga?The only thing all atheists believe is that there isn't any substantial evidence that a God exist. There is no brotherhood or a creed with atheists, it isn't a collective like institutional religion. Your logical reasoning is flawed.

Secondly, what has the ummah done for somalia. just recently some yemeni cunts shot down somali refugees? for what? where was the outrage from the ummah, even the muslim SOMALI BLM hijabis didn't give a shit. what does that say? here is the real f*ck up in your argument, "in favour of Europhile conformist Godless doctrine of servitude and peasant self-hate beggary and loyalty to human Europhile occultist deities." you bash europeans but look at the likes of jerome jarre and his movement, they have contributed vastly more than what these so called muslims from the gulf have contributed. you are blind.
Ninyahow yaab baan ku jirna.

 

[Raamsade]

Could a religious muslim be apart of a western government without having to conform outside of their morals? likewise any athiests in somali government can expect the same. they keep their religion in its private realm and away from the public and conform to the Islamic majority

What are you on about? There's no violence, ban or ostracism against western Muslims in politics. Here in Canada, there are Muslim MPs, ministers and cabinet members. You're confusing secularism which stipulates that no one religion is favoured (all religions are equal) and state sponsored religion. Whereas in Somalia and most Islamic countries one religion (Islam) favoured over others. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that when you favour one religion discrimination, bans and ostracism ensues. Always has, always will. That's why Westerners, to their credit, realized this and opted for equality.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

If they believe in Somalinimo & want to restore Somalia's national pride then its all good. As long you're Somali & a wadani then you automatically have a place in Somalia.

 

[The_Cosmos]

They can be but they always think about petty first world things like "omg bring back the dirac say no to jilbab!"

Could a religious muslim be apart of a western government without having to conform outside of their morals? likewise any athiests in somali government can expect the same. they keep their religion in its private realm and away from the public and conform to the Islamic majority

Muslims are members of western governments and nobody demands they confirm outside their religious moral standing. The only requirement of all people is to keep their religious beliefs out of politics so that no one idea can be enforced on anyone (shit always works out bad for minorities). Simply put, what if the Islamic majority demanded that homosexuals be executed, apostates killed, adulterers stoned and so on? This is all in the sharia and I doubt you intend to establish Somalia without it? Essentially what you're ascribing for is the tyranny of the majority which is western nations have set up laws to prevent. For example, the bill of rights.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

That Christian idoor MP was actually extremely pro western and advocated for an additional 10 years of colonial rule.

 

[Ferrari]

Yes of course. And while we are at it, it's the religious somalis that are usually against nationalism because they say it's haram. I don't think there is anything haram about loving your country and obeying the laws of your country as long as it's lead by Muslims like yourself.

 

[OmarLittle]

This was already answered by @jugjugwacwac and most people agreed with him, that Somali non-Muslims can be Somali and be wadani.

What are you going to do, potentially, if 1/3 of Somalis in a century become non-Muslims? Are you going to jail, kill, or deport them?

 

[Inquisitive_]

That Christian idoor MP was actually extremely pro western and advocated for an additional 10 years of colonial rule.

That's the parts these coons don't realise, they are conflating two entirely different concepts and muddying the waters.

They are comparing some peasant Muslim holding a lowly cabinet post in Europe ala garbage truck driver to events in Somalia, the psyche is totally different, atheism is a Europhile concept brought about by Europhile Occultist so called scientists, anyone that believes in it, has conformed and rendered his own century old culture and believes as inferior and therefore it's an oxymoron being an atheist and being a Somali nationalist, it's like water and oil.

Hence it's no surprise that dude advocated for 10 year colonial rule, there was also another MJ Christian that advocated for 20 years of UN trusteeship for Somalia, this is the epitome of self-hate behaviour and inferior feelings, notice how all those that defend it make 1000 excuses for them, one of them that Cosmos bakhti even downplayed the brutal genocidal colonialism of the Europeans arguing Ottomans were worse.

To get an example how they operate in Muslims states, just take a look at what they did in Turkey, they become even more Pro Europe then the Europeans themselves banning women from wearing scarfs and Hijabs just so that they can confirm to their masters, they never bring the positive stuff from Europe, but it's always their very worst depraved debased debauched cultures.

History never lies and the comparison being made between some powerless peasant lowly useless positions given to the worst of Muslims (just Muslim by name) is the illusion of inclusion culture done to the AA's, while much of their countries are relentlessly bombed, invaded, destabilised and destroyed.

Therefore, they are nothing more then utter traitors, embroiled in the worst form of self-hate, it's funny how the Western European countries have a security clearance system were forget being Muslim, but even if you had visited China/Russia as a tourist or have friends from those countries you would fail this and not get clearance, since your not seen as loyal and patriotic, every relevant position requires this type of clearance.

But of course much of these scum posters are happy being in a lowly ranked shackled position, it's an upgrade from their current office desk jockying and cooning, at least they can show the rest of the world how they have finally been accepted, prideless people like this make me puke.

 

[OmarLittle]

They can be but they always think about petty first world things like "omg bring back the dirac say no to jilbab!"

Could a religious muslim be apart of a western government without having to conform outside of their morals? likewise any athiests in somali government can expect the same. they keep their religion in its private realm and away from the public and conform to the Islamic majority

What the heck are you talking about?

Are you saying far-right groups who want to ban certain religious materials EQUAL the west? Did you ever read any of the western countries constitutions, especially the U.S?

Just because you have a religious authoritarianism bias, doesn't mean you can make up stuff.

 

[Arman]

I'll accept all Somalis no matter who they are, as long as they aren't separatists

 

[Arman]

When Somalis aren't discriminating based on Qabil, they're discriminating based on religion, and when they're not doing that, they're discriminating by nationality or skin color.

 

[NAF]

Firstly, dafuq is this shit? I don't believe in God, means that i bend over backwards to europeans? Are you tapped? war ninyahow look in the mirror and then proceed to contemplate. "servitude", "self-hate" what do you mean nigga?The only thing all atheists believe is that there isn't any substantial evidence that a God exist. There is no brotherhood or a creed with atheists, it isn't a collective like institutional religion. Your logical reasoning is flawed.

Secondly, what has the ummah done for somalia. just recently some yemeni cunts shot down somali refugees? for what? where was the outrage from the ummah, even the muslim SOMALI BLM hijabis didn't give a shit. what does that say? here is the real f*ck up in your argument, "in favour of Europhile conformist Godless doctrine of servitude and peasant self-hate beggary and loyalty to human Europhile occultist deities." you bash europeans but look at the likes of jerome jarre and his movement, they have contributed vastly more than what these so called muslims from the gulf have contributed. you are blind.
Ninyahow yaab baan ku jirna.

Don't blame Yemenis it was Saudis but they accused the Houthis

 

[NAF]

Nationalism = stupid and unhealthy
Patriotism = good

 

[McLovin]

Don't blame Yemenis it was Saudis but they accused the Houthis

Why did you feel the need to make the distinction between your yemeni brethren and Saudi sand cacs. To a true somali they would be all the same

 

[NAF]

Why did you feel the need to make the distinction between your yemeni brethren and Saudi sand cacs. To a true somali they would be all the same

I got called a yemeni gypsy on this so I now feel a personal connection

 

[McLovin]

I got called a yemeni gypsy on this so I now feel a personal connection

Nah dont mind that troll, youre a marryoole through and through