Caabudwaaq tensions: another fatal casualty
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‘Caabudwaaq tension’ will be a reoccurring series for the time being.
Adkeeso waryaa, because this will be a bumpy journey.
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Baaq nabadeed from Caam Caam
South Somalia still in civil war mentality. That one great legacy left from the kacaan. Xarmaajo represent MX and he do nothing!!.
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AUN sad to hear of the instability in Cabudwaaq.
Meanwhile the n&n trolls of Galmuran were wishing for chaos in Puntland. I'll pray for the innocents, smh
@Thegoodshepherd your omar mahmoud n reer mudug no point asking other reer omar mahmud who live in southern nugaal/warder, let's settle this marehan involvement in the Mudug wars.
I was told they're was a 'battalion' of marehans who intercepted the arms supply n usc contigents marching into galkacyo, especially USC re-supply of soldiers n and arms which was located at beletwayn.
Apparently marehan soldiers laid await to ambush the USC contigent outside cadaado in a famous place now called 'habaalo hawiye'. From this crushing blow to USC resupplies, the remaining HAGS ran for their lives as puntites marched in.
Was Marehan participation as crucial as the 'issa mahmoud wing'? as they're glorified as crucial sector. I am not sure if marehan contribution was as significant as ppl play it out to be. I cud be wrong, but every clan tends to claim they had a role in Galkacyo war. The only one I know that has confirmed role is issa mahmoud and there is an area in galkacyo called 'issa ku carow' meaning it was where heaps of USC died in that quarter, they're rumours of leelkase involvement and called 'darbi daarood' as they were also a hard unit to break as HAGS died in large numbers.
Reer Bari from what I read didn't play a role in the galkacyo war or it wasn't really significant. I know for a fact that issa mahmoud played a crucial wing sent by islam mahamed to free the town after the killing of elders, that's where the line was drawn when USC buried elders n killed prominent civilians. The town was unarmed, no ssdf, no nothing, talk about how weak they are, till today they still fight civilians, haday arkan ciidaan they all of sudden drop a eight on the ground n run.
Sometimes I wonder what is fiction n fact in the Galkacyo war, please clear it up your a reer mudug. As u know all Somalis over-estimate themselves when the facts are analysed in any topic pls contribute your views without any emotions or clan pride interjected in between. Everyone wants to act like they were the HERO or the crucial sector in the war.
What is fact n fiction is what I want to separate. What I do know is the beginning 'narrative' as confirmed FACT. No SSDF existed in PL at the time and the town was unarmed completely. HAGS invaded n killed civilians n elders this is also confirmed fact. What happens after that narrative is where u need to really present the facts and eliminate the clan bravado fiction or how every clan tries to present themselves as the HERO of the day.
I was told they're was a 'battalion' of marehans who intercepted the arms supply n usc contigents marching into galkacyo, especially USC re-supply of soldiers n and arms which was located at beletwayn.
Apparently marehan soldiers laid await to ambush the USC contigent outside cadaado in a famous place now called 'habaalo hawiye'. From this crushing blow to USC resupplies, the remaining HAGS ran for their lives as puntites marched in.
Was Marehan participation as crucial as the 'issa mahmoud wing'? as they're glorified as crucial sector. I am not sure if marehan contribution was as significant as ppl play it out to be. I cud be wrong, but every clan tends to claim they had a role in Galkacyo war. The only one I know that has confirmed role is issa mahmoud and there is an area in galkacyo called 'issa ku carow' meaning it was where heaps of USC died in that quarter, they're rumours of leelkase involvement and called 'darbi daarood' as they were also a hard unit to break as HAGS died in large numbers.
Reer Bari from what I read didn't play a role in the galkacyo war or it wasn't really significant. I know for a fact that issa mahmoud played a crucial wing sent by islam mahamed to free the town after the killing of elders, that's where the line was drawn when USC buried elders n killed prominent civilians. The town was unarmed, no ssdf, no nothing, talk about how weak they are, till today they still fight civilians, haday arkan ciidaan they all of sudden drop a eight on the ground n run.
Sometimes I wonder what is fiction n fact in the Galkacyo war, please clear it up your a reer mudug. As u know all Somalis over-estimate themselves when the facts are analysed in any topic pls contribute your views without any emotions or clan pride interjected in between. Everyone wants to act like they were the HERO or the crucial sector in the war.
What is fact n fiction is what I want to separate. What I do know is the beginning 'narrative' as confirmed FACT. No SSDF existed in PL at the time and the town was unarmed completely. HAGS invaded n killed civilians n elders this is also confirmed fact. What happens after that narrative is where u need to really present the facts and eliminate the clan bravado fiction or how every clan tries to present themselves as the HERO of the day.
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The Galkacyo War needs to be presented by Puntland people who were present before that generation dies away before it's turns into fiction and myth as time goes along . I can only vouch for what I saw in Mogadishu in 99 after the hawiye 4 month war ended and it was the dark age period to follow from 94 till 2006, they agreed to have no government or any political talks and agreed to keep up the looting which was the cornerstone of the truce or pact.
The reason for their pact was after they realized their political divide will lead to more bloodshed and therefore the best solution was to have no politics or government in the capital. I can speak for that 'era' I was there and saw it with my own eyes what that era was like.
But before the Galkacyo war is shelfed in the myth/fiction department, it's critical PL provides a time-line Narrative.
All I know as fact is the following
1. SSDF was still dismantled. Just like in Mogadishu, Galkacyo ppl were not armed and civilians
2. USC sneaked in and attacked elders n prominent people after-all they're was no SSDF to attack.
3. What happens afterwards is where it starts to become unreliable other then USC was defeated. These are established facts. What isn't established is who played the biggest role, crucial sectors, as all clans try to run in and claim they were the heros of the day.
If this isn't settled, as time goes on kids will think it's all myth and eventually they will start to question if the battle even took place or was 'urban legends' because there is so many counter-narratives about the actual defeat of USC and who played the biggest role. Just like the gospel is dismissed by many ppl as their is so many counter narratives of jesus, eventually galkacyo war will be treated like that, wa muhim in tarikhda la ilaliya or else u will end up making the same mistakes because ppl will forget about it or as time goes it will be thrown out as urban legends.
The reason for their pact was after they realized their political divide will lead to more bloodshed and therefore the best solution was to have no politics or government in the capital. I can speak for that 'era' I was there and saw it with my own eyes what that era was like.
But before the Galkacyo war is shelfed in the myth/fiction department, it's critical PL provides a time-line Narrative.
All I know as fact is the following
1. SSDF was still dismantled. Just like in Mogadishu, Galkacyo ppl were not armed and civilians
2. USC sneaked in and attacked elders n prominent people after-all they're was no SSDF to attack.
3. What happens afterwards is where it starts to become unreliable other then USC was defeated. These are established facts. What isn't established is who played the biggest role, crucial sectors, as all clans try to run in and claim they were the heros of the day.
If this isn't settled, as time goes on kids will think it's all myth and eventually they will start to question if the battle even took place or was 'urban legends' because there is so many counter-narratives about the actual defeat of USC and who played the biggest role. Just like the gospel is dismissed by many ppl as their is so many counter narratives of jesus, eventually galkacyo war will be treated like that, wa muhim in tarikhda la ilaliya or else u will end up making the same mistakes because ppl will forget about it or as time goes it will be thrown out as urban legends.
91-94 period really excites me because I wasn't there and when lots of the battles took place in Somalia. If PL doesn't cover this period, we will end up forgetting it and once we forget it, some other clown will come along and repeat it.
That's why history whether it's good or bad must be documented so people can learn from it in the future not to repeat it, if they don't have that information available, they will end up repeating it. Somalis tend to quickly skim or overlook that period due to emotions. They're should be no emotions at play, it's history, by documenting it, u pass on a better future for your descendants so they learn from your time period and what went wrong.
If u remain silent, censor, or skip it due to emotional attachment, im afraid, we cud be heading down the same path in the future
That's why history whether it's good or bad must be documented so people can learn from it in the future not to repeat it, if they don't have that information available, they will end up repeating it. Somalis tend to quickly skim or overlook that period due to emotions. They're should be no emotions at play, it's history, by documenting it, u pass on a better future for your descendants so they learn from your time period and what went wrong.
If u remain silent, censor, or skip it due to emotional attachment, im afraid, we cud be heading down the same path in the future
The man that kicked USC out of Gaalkacyo is still alive, captain Abdirisaq Seef.
peace agreement in 1993 with caydiid USC for letting Sacad to come back was huge mistake.
@Abdalla All events in history as time goes on if not written down quickly or at least passed on orally, turns into urban legends or fiction. The reason why it shelved as fiction or urban legends is because they're is to many counter-narratives of a single event, when a single event should have a single narrative.
Obviously the winner always write history because the loser isn't around but when the winner n loser r still around, if they don't document together what happened and it doesn't follow a single narrative and arguments occur over it, ppl in the future slowly begin to say it's fiction or it never happened to begin with.
Obviously the winner always write history because the loser isn't around but when the winner n loser r still around, if they don't document together what happened and it doesn't follow a single narrative and arguments occur over it, ppl in the future slowly begin to say it's fiction or it never happened to begin with.
That part is documented in the ceasefire agreement that the ppl of sacad are returned. I wouldn't call the 93 agreement a peace agreement, it's more a ceasefire as both are still armed and the city still divided socially.
@FBIsomalia waxay ku heeshiyeen keliya in xabada la jojjiyo lakin qof ku heeshiyay inay is-racan social unity, gacmaha isgabsadan, hal ujeedo yeeshtan, war waxasi meesha ma oolin. Marka to call it a peace agreement is also totally wrong. Dad kala fadhiyo oo hubaysan anigu uma arki dad nabad dhex taal kkkkkk
Waryaa we know the Galkacyo Nus Qiyaama very well, it was "yaa daroodey" calacaal year
All of MJ Deegaans were taken by Sacad alone within a day until Ali Mahdi war started in Mogadishu which than Sacad left occupied mj areas for Mogadishu to reinforce the war there.
Waryaa we know the Galkacyo Nus Qiyaama very well, it was "yaa daroodey" calacaal year
You fought un-armed civilians is a more accurate description, there was no SSDF active for u to fight, so who were u fighting but un-armed civilians. This is well recorded when SSDF collapsed in 1985 with abdillahi yusuf arrest. Same with Mogadishu there was no SSDF armed group, u simply killed unarmed civilians arguing they were working with siyad, even though they were not armed whatsoever. This is established facts.
Since u believe in Isaaq so much as HG, u want to see a video of Egal 'screaming' at USC saying WTF u doing, ur just fighting civilians in the capital?
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