burial for guy that loved s but s hated him

[Luna]

Aun. Reading about this made me tear up walahi.
The culprits need to get caught and executed especially whoever sent them to kill this guy.
It also needs to be investigated further, I suspect it is a qabiil based killing. He never stood a chance being surrounded by enemy qabiilists. This is why Xamar is such a shithole. The same people who destroyed the city are calling the shots to this day. Farmaajo should move the capital.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Aun. Reading about this made me tear up walahi.
The culprits need to get caught and executed especially whoever sent them to kill this guy.
It also needs to be investigated further, I suspect it is a qabiil based killing. He never stood a chance being surrounded by enemy qabiilists. This is why Xamar is such a shithole. The same people who destroyed the city are calling the shots to this day. Farmaajo should move the capital.

The entire country from coast to coast is under terrorist hegemony of the Anglo-American-Zionists, their middle-man puppeteers from the middle east (UAE/Saudi), the peasant food soldiers that is Amisom/Ethiopia/Kenya and right at the bottom are the shabab/qabiilist dupes used against their own.

All these elements work in unison with each other coordinating their efforts, moving the capital makes no difference, there is a CIA base in every region in the country and they have been there for decades, why do you think they are there?

There are daily flights from their Djibouti base to Koonfur were they supply ISIS/Shabab, you can track those cargo flights through https://www.flightradar24.com/ they don't even hide, you will often find more flights going in and out of Somalia then Ethiopia with 10x the population (and that's not even considering the flights that have their transponders off)

The primary reason why places in Koonfur are chaotic is people are fighting back against them, hence the physical approach is used to subdue them, it's the only place were a revolution is possible like we saw with ICU, it's the place that frightens them all and the criminal elements are being dismantled hence the fight backs.

I have travelled up and down Somalia, there is negligible revolutionary spirits in P/land and S/land in terms of Somaliweyn/Anti Imperialism/Anti Xabashi, the people and it's leadership have accepted the hegemony hence no need for physical shackles, you see this everywhere you go, don't even take my words for it, just look around on this forum to see for yourself.

The entire roster from Somaliland that post on here I have only ever encountered two nationalists @jugjugwacwac & @Duke of Bohol, for Puntland I have only ever seen brother @Rorschach show strong Somaliweyne sentiments, the people of Sool are the only exception to this and it's not a coincidence sool is the most impoverished area as a result.

There is no need to destabilise those areas as there is no threat, however from J/land, South-West, Benadir & Galmudug the threat is real hence all the active destabilization's that takes place there it's not a coincidence by any means, they have even moved troops there.

I can give you an endless list of the people from those regions including even Ogaden that are Nationalist/Anti Federalists and Pro Somaliweyne whom only post on SSPOT, nevermind the wider public.

Hence revolution can and will only come from those regions until a day comes when the roles reverse which I don't see happening in my life time, the day they decide to move the capital, even the dupes and criminal elements they have set up themselves, fund and whose networks are being dismantled will turn revolutionary.

The proof is in the pudding, not a single revolutionary thought/movement/group came from the North after the collapse of Somalia despite almost 30 years of peace between them.

 

[Gilgamesh]

 

[Yonis]

AUN

 

[Abdalla]

AUN

Aun. Reading about this made me tear up walahi.
The culprits need to get caught and executed especially whoever sent them to kill this guy.
It also needs to be investigated further, I suspect it is a qabiil based killing. He never stood a chance being surrounded by enemy qabiilists. This is why Xamar is such a shithole. The same people who destroyed the city are calling the shots to this day. Farmaajo should move the capital.

You're one of the few that sees the bigger picture. Don't expect any progress as long as that cursed city is our capital, its soil swallowed more blood than rain.

 

[Burhan]

Aun. Reading about this made me tear up walahi.
The culprits need to get caught and executed especially whoever sent them to kill this guy.
It also needs to be investigated further, I suspect it is a qabiil based killing. He never stood a chance being surrounded by enemy qabiilists. This is why Xamar is such a shithole. The same people who destroyed the city are calling the shots to this day. Farmaajo should move the capital.

I had no idea who was murdered so I googled in Somali "Wasiirka La dilay". The top article that came up said something about the murderer/killers being under arrest. There is an investigation going on according to the article.

If your Somali is good,. here is the article I read:


http://www.xogtamedia.com/2017/05/0...wasiirka-howlaha-guud-cabaas-siraaji-muuqaal/



Empowering civilians like Farmaajo is the key to change the course and To disenfranchise clan politics. To diminish the power of people who represent the lucrative industry of clan politics, and to relegate Somalis who are obsessed with clan and destroyed everything Somali along the way, we need to be part of the change and not resort to emotional clan talk.

Muqdisho is our Capital and we do not recognize any clan to have a sole say in it. They share the town with the rest of Somalis because it is a Somali capital. People who voted and came out on the streets in support of Farmaajo are from the city itself. They want to ensure warlords who lost their ill gotten gains and the grip they had on the city to never return.

As such, they need our support and not our scorn.

 

[Luna]

The entire country from coast to coast is under terrorist hegemony of the Anglo-American-Zionists, their middle-man puppeteers from the middle east (UAE/Saudi), the peasant food soldiers that is Amisom/Ethiopia/Kenya and right at the bottom are the shabab/qabiilist dupes used against their own.

All these elements work in unison with each other coordinating their efforts, moving the capital makes no difference, there is a CIA base in every region in the country and they have been there for decades, why do you think they are there?

There are daily flights from their Djibouti base to Koonfur were they supply ISIS/Shabab, you can track those cargo flights through https://www.flightradar24.com/ they don't even hide, you will often find more flights going in and out of Somalia then Ethiopia with 10x the population (and that's not even considering the flights that have their transponders off)

The primary reason why places in Koonfur are chaotic is people are fighting back against them, hence the physical approach is used to subdue them, it's the only place were a revolution is possible like we saw with ICU, it's the place that frightens them all and the criminal elements are being dismantled hence the fight backs.

I have travelled up and down Somalia, there is negligible revolutionary spirits in P/land and S/land in terms of Somaliweyn/Anti Imperialism/Anti Xabashi, the people and it's leadership have accepted the hegemony hence no need for physical shackles, you see this everywhere you go, don't even take my words for it, just look around on this forum to see for yourself.

The entire roster from Somaliland that post on here I have only ever encountered two nationalists @jugjugwacwac & @Duke of Bohol, for Puntland I have only ever seen brother @Rorschach show strong Somaliweyne sentiments, the people of Sool are the only exception to this and it's not a coincidence sool is the most impoverished area as a result.

There is no need to destabilise those areas as there is no threat, however from J/land, South-West, Benadir & Galmudug the threat is real hence all the active destabilization's that takes place there it's not a coincidence by any means, they have even moved troops there.

I can give you an endless list of the people from those regions including even Ogaden that are Nationalist/Anti Federalists and Pro Somaliweyne whom only post on SSPOT, nevermind the wider public.

Hence revolution can and will only come from those regions until a day comes when the roles reverse which I don't see happening in my life time, the day they decide to move the capital, even the dupes and criminal elements they have set up themselves, fund and whose networks are being dismantled will turn revolutionary.

The proof is in the pudding, not a single revolutionary thought/movement/group came from the North after the collapse of Somalia despite almost 30 years of peace between them.

Yes, there are outside enemies that want to see us fall, but this situation looks like another case of Qabiilism. In fact, it reeks of it. I don't have to spell out who the parties involved are because we all know. The older generation has run the South into the ground for 26 years and many resent any kind of progress that doesn't involve them being at the top!

These are facts we all need to deal with before pointing fingers at others. Hell, we wouldn't be in this situation if it weren't for qabiilism. We're stil at square one with a shitty country, underfunded government and mentally ill qabiilist elders. I now see why some people want to seperate from Somalia. I really do.

Until these elder Hawiye qabiilists in the south are stopped Xamar will be in a state of turmoil. They murdered some of us and kicked the rest of us out, but the city/region is still a shithole because they don't know how to govern. I guess I was naive thinking things would change and that people would be more tolerant and respectful of each other, but nothing has changed.

Walahi, from now on I am just gonna focus on my ancestral regions. I wish the best for the rest of the country and all Somali's, but I am 100% done.

I had no idea who was murdered so I googled in Somali "Wasiirka La dilay". The top article that came up said something about the murderer/killers being under arrest. There is an investigation going on according to the article.

If your Somali is good,. here is the article I read:


http://www.xogtamedia.com/2017/05/0...wasiirka-howlaha-guud-cabaas-siraaji-muuqaal/



Empowering civilians like Farmaajo is the key to change the course and To disenfranchise clan politics. To diminish the power of people who represent the lucrative industry of clan politics, and to relegate Somalis who are obsessed with clan and destroyed everything Somali along the way, we need to be part of the change and not resort to emotional clan talk.

Muqdisho is our Capital and we do not recognize any clan to have a sole say in it. They share the town with the rest of Somalis because it is a Somali capital. People who voted and came out on the streets in support of Farmaajo are from the city itself. They want to ensure warlords who lost their ill gotten gains and the grip they had on the city to never return.

As such, they need our support and not our scorn.

I read about that. The people who voted were primarily the younger generation. They grew up during the conflict and thus, they see no benefit from it.

However, it is the older generation who is calling the shots and creating this mess. My issue is not with all Hawiye people, but the qabilist clan elders who are causing conflicts to this day.

 

[Burhan]

Yes, there are outside enemies that want to see us fall, but this situation looks like another case of Qabiilism. In fact, it reeks of it. I don't have to spell out who the parties involved are because we all know. The older generation has run the South into the ground for 26 years and many resent any kind of progress that doesn't involve them being at the top!

These are facts we all need to deal with before pointing fingers at others. Hell, we wouldn't be in this situation if it weren't for qabiilism. We're stil at square one with a shitty country, underfunded government and mentally ill qabiilist elders. I now see why some people want to seperate from Somalia. I really do.

Until these elder Hawiye qabiilists in the south are stopped Xamar will be in a state of turmoil. They murdered some of us and kicked the rest of us out, but the city/region is still a shithole because they don't know how to govern. I guess I was naive thinking things would change and that people would be more tolerant and respectful of each other, but nothing has changed.
Walahi, from now on I am just gonna focus on my ancestral regions. I wish the best for the rest of the country and all Somali's, but I am 100% done.

If you are serious about right and wrong, don't be a qabiiliiste yourself. Be the change you want to SEE. And step back and recognize the efforts being made by fellow Somalis from other clans who are in the city itself playing a leading role to bring about a necessary change.

If everyone thought like you do, then things would remain the same way/state you seem to be complaining about.

 

[Luna]

If you are serious about right and wrong, don't be a qabiiliiste yourself. Be the change you want to SEE. And step back and recognize the efforts being made by fellow Somalis from other clans who are in the city itself playing a leading role to bring about a necessary change.

If everyone thought like you do, then things would remain the same way/state you seem to be complaining about.

Is calling *certain* people out for their wrongdoings qabiilist now?

Let me reiterate: My issue is not with the general Hawiye population, but with the qabilist clan elders and their followers who are wreacking havoc in the South especially Xamar.

We can never move forward if we don't deal with internal threats auch as those and Al Munafiqeen.

The only solution for now is to move the capital to a less hostile location with minimal turmoil imo.

If you really want to call me a qabilist for calling out a real problem, sxb then so be it.

 

[Burhan]

Is calling *certain* people out for their wrongdoings qabiilist now?

Let me reiterate: My issue is not with the general Hawiye population, but with the qabilist clan elders and their followers who are wreacking havoc in the South especially Xamar.

We can never move forward if we don't deal with internal threats auch as those and Al Munafiqeen.

The only solution for now is to move the capital to a less hostile location with minimal turmoil imo.

If you really want to call me a qabilist for calling out a real problem, sxb then so be it.

If your purpose is the stated, then you would support and lend a voice to Farmaajo and his government despite them not being perfect. Stay the course. Why? because they are men sacrificing everything to address the call of their society. They are men who believe in Somalinimo and show a bond to others. They are willing to work with others despite clan conflicts of the past and present danger. To regain our National sovereignty and make Somalia viable again is more important than clan politics.

Being stuck in the past or getting worked up over a tragedy and miss the bigger picture is not useful. I am just stating what we need to do rather than what we can express all day out of grievances.


You made the wrong comments about Muqdisho because the city is not to blame. We are not going to abandon Muqdisho for any reason and recognize anyone to have a sole ownership to it. Clan politics are temporary and we need to fight that to be permanent and determining the future. It used to be a Somali city, and that is how it is going to remain.


The men and women who are sacrificing their life daily and who show a common bond to their kinsmen, who are ignoring past conflicts and present danger must have our support if we are truly caring about our own.

 

[Luna]

If your purpose is the stated, then you would support and lend a voice to Farmaajo and his government despite them not being perfect. Why? because they are men sacrificing everything to address the call of their society. They are men who believe in Somalinimo and show a bond to others. They are willing to work with others despite clan conflicts of the past and present danger. To regain our National sovereignty and make Somalia viable again is more important than clan politics.

Being stuck in the past or getting worked up over a tragedy and miss the bigger picture is not useful. I am just stating what we need to do rather than what we can express all day out of grievances.


You made the wrong comments about Muqdisho because the city is not to blame. We are not going to abandon Muqdisho for any reason and recognize anyone to have a sole ownership to it. Clan politics are temporary and we need to fight that to be permanent and determining the future. It used to be a Somali city, and that is how it is going to remain.


The men and women who are sacrificing their life daily and who show a common bond to their kinsmen, who are ignoring past conflicts and present danger must have our support if we are truly caring about our own.

Walahi, you can call it the past, but this bullshit is still ongoing. This situation is proof of it. Not much has changed.

I have supported Farmaajo for a while and continue to support him, however, there is a clear lack of safety on Xamar for those who "do not belong" there and you know it. Don't ignore the elephant in the room.

How many more people are going to be killed while trying to serve their country. Even Farmajo is unsafe in Xamar. Walahi, I fear for him. Why? Because of the same power hungry, cuqdad ridden waste's of space that are responsible for the deaths of innocent people like this poor minister.

I support a temporary move of capital to somewhere safer than Xamar until things get better. This can't keep happening.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Is calling *certain* people out for their wrongdoings qabiilist now?

Let me reiterate: My issue is not with the general Hawiye population, but with the qabilist clan elders and their followers who are wreacking havoc in the South especially Xamar.

We can never move forward if we don't deal with internal threats auch as those and Al Munafiqeen.

The only solution for now is to move the capital to a less hostile location with minimal turmoil imo.

If you really want to call me a qabilist for calling out a real problem, sxb then so be it.

I can tell by the way you type your from Puntland, are you that naive to think that if the capital was moved to Garowe tonight that everything would be honky dory? really?

Did you know that Garowe several times refused Abdi Weli Gaas their own clan's man from entering the city several with public threats? did you know they even refused the founder of P/land Abdullahi Yusuf to enter once upon a time when he was the leader? these are the depth of shameless statements that were made and mind you all of them are Mahamoud Saleeban of the same sub-sub-clan refusing each other to come to their own capital city, should this be the capital of Somalia?

Do you even know how foreign Somali's are treated their? Do you have any idea? I have been to Garowe twice myself and have family there, if they did this to a family imagine a leader from another clan ?

Did you hear anyone in Xamar say Farmaajo cannot enter our city? or any of the politician's and leaders from all different clan's, even mass murder Morgan walks around in Xamar ? Do you even know how the vote distribution was and who the people that voted for Farmaajo were? have you got any idea when he first landed in Xamar before winning how he was welcomed by the people?

I can guarantee that most of this is news to you and you likely never travelled never to Somalia and if you did not outside of your tuulo while I have been back more then 10 times and travelled end to end.

Your concern about the safety of Farmaajo in Xamar is laughable, Morgan walks around, you don't even know the amount of MX that live there, in fact you don't even know how mixed the city is, you likely never been there, it's not good to speak out of ignorance.

We all know the criminal elements which are found in every city up and down, they are a tiny minority supported by many foreign powers/elements, the city has a population of 3 million and was rated as the fastest growing one, Baghdad has daily mass bombings/assassinations despite regional power Iran backing the government and so many shia militas number 100.000 it's simply impossible to secure all.

When I speak to relatives in Xamar about bombings they are surprised and tell me "they hear this stuff from the diaspora only", no different to all the shootings in Chicago, criminals chasing criminals in certain parts of the city, same story in Xamar, same assassinations taking place around P/land as well almost daily.

 

[Burhan]

Walahi, you can call it the past, but this bullshit is still ongoing. This situation is proof of it. Not much has changed.

I have supported Farmaajo for a while and continue to support him, however, there is a clear lack of safety on Xamar for those who "do not belong" there and you know it. Don't ignore the elephant in the room.

How many more people are going to be killed while trying to serve their country. Even Farmajo is unsafe in Xamar. Walahi, I fear for him. Why? Because of the same power hungry, cuqdad ridden waste's of space that are responsible for the deaths of innocent people like this poor minister.

I support a temporary move of capital to somewhere safer than Xamar until things get better. This can't keep happening.

Nothing happens without a sacrifice. They are our Somali martyrs who won't be forgotten. If you think change comes with everyone walled behind their clan base, you haven't hit the bottom yet. Somalia will be no more with such mentality and fears..

I am more than willing to give a chance to men and women intent on doing greater things in small steps. Moving the city temporarily is giving more power to warlords and their supporters. They are now feeling squeezed and their source of income drained. That is why they are engaged in subterfuge and giving in to their intimidation is running and moving somewhere else. It can't happen.

You need to get on board and stay on board. Hope for the best. Staying positive is healthy and less sinful. Also, evil is the absence of good as they say, once your role as a good citizen is vacant. what fills in your place is bad and evil.

You need to ally yourself with others willing to work with you who are as much of victims of today's clan politics as you are sis.

 

[Luna]

I can tell by the way you type your from Puntland, are you that naive to think that if the capital was moved to Garowe tonight that everything would be honky dory? really?

Did you know that Garowe several times refused Abdi Weli Gaas their own clan's man from entering the city several times with threats? did you know they even refused the founder of P/land Abdullahi Yusuf to enter once upon a time when he was the leader? these are the depth of shameless statements that were made and mind you all of them are Mahamoud Saleeban of the same sub-sub-clan refusing each other to come to the capital city.

Do you even know how foreign Somali's are treated their? Do you have any idea? I have been to Garowe twice myself and have family there, if they did this to a family imagine a leader from another clan ?

Did you hear anyone in Xamar say Farmaajo cannot enter our city? or any of the politician's and leaders from all different clan's, even mass murder Morgan walks around in Xamar ? Do you even know how the vote distribution was and who the people that voted for Farmaajo were? have you got any idea when he first landed in Xamar before winning how he was welcomed by the people?

I can guarantee to you most of this is news to you and you likely never travelled to outside of your tuulo in Somalia, I have been back more then 10 times and travelled end to end.

Wtf. I am not from Puntland. That is the last place I would move the capital to! Never in a million years. I don't have a specific city in mind, but a medium-large city with less turmoil would be better. Any for now (outside of PL and Waqooyi) imo.

Yes, he was welcomed mostly by the youth and those without cuqdad, but what about the idiot qabilists and warlords who actually run things? Its never a bad idea to stay safe and out of harms way. Ilahay ha dhowro Farmajo.

P.S: Don't assume too many things about me. You know nothing.

 

[Lord Flacko]

@Luna why do you believe this is a clan based killing?


Even the hundreds of MPs, who have stated that they have zero security and walk amongst the public in Mogadishu aswell as rent homes haven't been killed, no matter what clan. If the people of Mogadishu were so qabilist as you say, how come they all be alive and well despite the majority being not Hawiye?

You blame the elders, but no elder has advocated anything closely resembling clan based murder in Mogadishu. You're reaching for what you think is the easiest answer, but it's far from it.



Your reasoning is non existent. To blame it on qabiil is scapegoating.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Wtf. I am not from Puntland. That is the last place I would move the capital to! Never in a million years. I don't have a specific city in mind, but a medium-large city with less turmoil would be better. Any for now (outside of PL and Waqooyi) imo.

Yes, he was welcomed mostly by the youth and those without cuqdad, but what about the idiot qabilists and warlords who actually run things? Its never a bad idea to stay safe and out of harms way. Ilahay ha dhowro Farmajo.

P.S: Don't assume too many things about me. You know nothing.

The only people I have seen in my more then a decade in Somali politics with hatred for Xamar are 99% exclusively from P/land (mostly elder generation), I don't believe a word of what you typed, it doesn't even make sense

You rule out P/land and Somaliland entirely which is close to 50% of the country, this basically leaves Kismaayo/Baidoa as the two biggest cities both suffer from the same insecurities, even worse the entire surrounding areas are controlled by Al-Shabab, in fact the whole region surrounding those cities are controlled by them, bringing us back to my long post before! until diverted us deliberately.

Ahmed Madoobe cannot even go to Buale his own capital city which is ran by Shabab (American proxies), the same story with Sakiin, so I have two options here, either I have to take a leap of faith and believe your incredibly naive to the point you made yourself look very stupid or the simple fact that your just a reer puntland.

 

[Abdalla]

Walahi, you can call it the past, but this bullshit is still ongoing. This situation is proof of it. Not much has changed.

I have supported Farmaajo for a while and continue to support him, however, there is a clear lack of safety on Xamar for those who "do not belong" there and you know it. Don't ignore the elephant in the room.

How many more people are going to be killed while trying to serve their country. Even Farmajo is unsafe in Xamar. Walahi, I fear for him. Why? Because of the same power hungry, cuqdad ridden waste's of space that are responsible for the deaths of innocent people like this poor minister.

I support a temporary move of capital to somewhere safer than Xamar until things get better. This can't keep happening.

Don't let their false sense of 'Somalinimo' fool you. The fact they dismiss the systematic heineous acts of crime shows you their true colours. They have probably family members occupying properties that belonged to innocent people that ran for their lives. A minister in proximity of the freaking presidential compound was shot dead not by a thug but by a trained soldier. It might be harsh, but let them sort out their own mess. The worst thing is the hypocrisy, they are the first to blame other for their own wrong doings. They forgive the crimes of people close to them and are the first to exaggerate about the shortcomings of others that are further from them genealogy wise. A guy whose name and abtirsi is known killed a minister yet they blame Garowe.

 

[XamarCade]

Don't let their false sense of 'Somalinimo' fool you. The fact they dismiss the systematic heineous acts of crime shows you their true colours. They have probably family members occupying properties that belonged to innocent people that ran for their lives. A minister in proximity of the freaking presidential compound was shot dead not by a thug but by a trained soldier. It might be harsh, but let them sort out their own mess. The worst thing is the hypocrisy, they are the first to blame other for their own wrong doings. They forgive the crimes of people close to them and are the first to exaggerate about the shortcomings of others that are further from them genealogy wise. A guy whose name and abtirsi is known killed a minister yet they blame Garowe.

Those damn Unukaah Leh'anian Hawiyes

 

[Keyser Söze]

AUN. Marxuunka.

 

[Abdalla]

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This guy is 30 years old, ladies and gentlemen. If he receives a few laughters for one gif/meme, rest assured he will milk it and post the same images over and over again. A proper gif and meme milker.