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Breaking: 50 Year Anniversary For the Blessed Kacaan Government!
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May God be pleased with the Lions of the Kacaan we will always hold their values dear to our hearts and make sure Somalia always remembers them for their valiant efforts in bringing civilization to our nation.
Yes kacaan it's dark day that we still suffer from it.
@Dues Ex Machete you are not ready for peace. My abtiyaal issue with darod is why u don't do this for gedo without using hamar? untill they see u boast about gedo, they won't ever trust u and only select u cuz of hawiye divisions not because they like you, it's cause irir couldn't agree only that u came out. I want to help my abti form an irir policy to ensure Sade can never take advantage of they're division. I want them to see how Gedo is still backwards and he wants to come to hamar to get rich on u, or else gedo buu dhisan laha. Information propaganda online doesn't change the millions of hawiye who see you as SADE in they're city looting them
the kacaan government was a beacon of hope for all somalis. somalia at mid to late 1960's was on a brink of civil war due to the mafia politics from a select few lackeys that the italians installed upon us.
the kacaan government was a populist movement which gave control back to the people, may allah bless President mohammed Siyad Barre.
the kacaan government was a populist movement which gave control back to the people, may allah bless President mohammed Siyad Barre.
Listen stop being fool @Dues Ex Machete they can't even mention siyad name any official govt, his history is going to be removed as the 'dark period' ama 'dhiigyacabki' as all Somalis will be taught at schools that siyad WAS a cruel commy and sade was a gaal who wanted ppl to call him abbo which is haram to call someone abbo when nabiga yiri noone call me abbo, they will view sade as potential gaalo like they view isaaq who opened schools in berbera to create michael mariamo, u think it would've topped there? hundreds would've come out of those schools to lead Somaliland and begin christianity project. I hate id33r for that reason, humiliating us Somalis always as ppl call us SLAVES OF WHITE PPL.
Have u noticed even farmaajo can't mention siyad barre name officially on tv, there is no icons of siyad at all, not even in villa it shows civilian era govt then big gap period of hawiyenimo which is followed by ABDILLAHI YUSUF as the new FEDERAL ERA.IN 2004. Just watch the past president photo in villa somalia u will see a huge gap from 91-2004 untill HALYEYGI SOMALIYEED ABDILLAHI YUSUF RETURNED. The Somali Federal GOVT era begun in 2004 and is continuing today. It's funny they ignore Siyad Barre era 1969-1991, no mention on the photos of villa somalia, I would mention it honestly.
That Gap period 1991-2004 is when I was in Hamar particulary 99 on dhaqan celis and visiting my ayeeyo, that's the only Somalia I remember, so I accept my views may sound like a 'moryan' but that was the Somalia I saw, maybe u guys see new Somalia in 2004-2019 lakin not me, I didn't return after my initial dhaqan celis in 99 the hawiye ERA baan soo arkay bees. I didn't experience abdillahi yusuf era from 2004-2019. I will visit PL/HAMAR/HARGEISA to see the difference from hawiye era that I encountered. I am not a kid like u 20 year olds on the spot, I seen different eras in Somalia, I have experience. and experience is how u get somewhere in life.
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For those who don't know the Hawiye Era. It started in 91 when they took over Mogadishu, it lead to clan warfare first with Darod to remove them and send them back to they're deserts or utanga. The one's who went to Utanga are the ones who are in the Diaspora today well a bulk majority anyways. Then when Darod fled, the hawiye fought each over control in the 4 months war.
This was when Ali Mahdi and Aideed didn't agree who should rule the govt. Another huge wave of refugees fled this time period which includes heaps of my 'abtiyaal' and they were mainly 'banadiri' hawiyes people who lived there since time immemorial.
The Galgaduud Hawiyes(HG, Murusade, Wacaysle) packed into the city to defend they're 'turfs' in Mogadishu. Dayniile-Sigaale being strong-hold of my murusade abtis, Northern Mogadishu being Abgaal strong hold, and the HG proceeded towards the southern mogadishu where darod vacated and started occupying the looted properties.
I wasn't around for this period, I came in 99 from Australia just visiting my Issa Mahmoud ayeeyo who never 'fled' looking after our properties thru a 'HG damiin' because my dad was 'good friends with abdiqaybdiid'. I came to learn Somali, dhaqan moryan, and quran. I was 14, it was actually a good experience for me to go there or else today I could be fooled by Somalis who actually think Mogadishu inu khayr lee yahay. I am suprised when people view mogadishu as good people. I saw bahalo, not good people waryaa. Infact when I was there the 'war' lessesned, they agreed the warlords to stop fighting over somali govt and just to do isbaaro on checkpoints and airports and collect the loot and build up wealth in nairobi investment. I was in Somalia when the warlords agreed dawlad kuma heeshin karno, lets cut green lines between warlord factions and just focus on wealth development for abdiqaybdiid, muse sudi, qanyare, these were the lot I was under the control of in mogadishu. It wasn't a government waryaa, they weren't providing basic services to the people, they were LOOTING and doing ISBAARO. This is the HAWIYE ERA I am warning u of, becareful of hawiye hadu ku yirahdo somali baan jecel ahay and all that, I saw what they were sxb, experience trumps WORDS.
I will stand up and say your fuckin INSANE. I was living in my ayeeyo house we had to live with 'faynus' you know wat that is waryaa? it's called kerosene lamp for lighting the house because the govt electricity plant was looted by HG. The toilets didn't even flush either, cause all the sewage system pipes were looted by HG.
No joke, even running water in the house didn't exist, they used to bring water thru 'donkey carts' in something called 'boyads'. I will never forget that hawiye era Somalia, there was no life in the city. Even telephone didn't exist, no joke, u wud share a phone with all your 'xafaad', Can u imagine that, the priveledge u have today in Somalia, I didn't damn see waryaa, u guys all have phones and internet and tv and shit, your quite lucky. Hawiye ha ii xasusin anigu, wax aan soo arkay weeye. I know hawiye wuxu keeni kara keliya 'taasi' niyahow, weligay ma arag meel hawiye joggo oo barwaaqo ah hadi aysan Somali uu imaan sida hamar loo yimi 2004 thru QASAB IYO XOOG
This was when Ali Mahdi and Aideed didn't agree who should rule the govt. Another huge wave of refugees fled this time period which includes heaps of my 'abtiyaal' and they were mainly 'banadiri' hawiyes people who lived there since time immemorial.
The Galgaduud Hawiyes(HG, Murusade, Wacaysle) packed into the city to defend they're 'turfs' in Mogadishu. Dayniile-Sigaale being strong-hold of my murusade abtis, Northern Mogadishu being Abgaal strong hold, and the HG proceeded towards the southern mogadishu where darod vacated and started occupying the looted properties.
I wasn't around for this period, I came in 99 from Australia just visiting my Issa Mahmoud ayeeyo who never 'fled' looking after our properties thru a 'HG damiin' because my dad was 'good friends with abdiqaybdiid'. I came to learn Somali, dhaqan moryan, and quran. I was 14, it was actually a good experience for me to go there or else today I could be fooled by Somalis who actually think Mogadishu inu khayr lee yahay. I am suprised when people view mogadishu as good people. I saw bahalo, not good people waryaa. Infact when I was there the 'war' lessesned, they agreed the warlords to stop fighting over somali govt and just to do isbaaro on checkpoints and airports and collect the loot and build up wealth in nairobi investment. I was in Somalia when the warlords agreed dawlad kuma heeshin karno, lets cut green lines between warlord factions and just focus on wealth development for abdiqaybdiid, muse sudi, qanyare, these were the lot I was under the control of in mogadishu. It wasn't a government waryaa, they weren't providing basic services to the people, they were LOOTING and doing ISBAARO. This is the HAWIYE ERA I am warning u of, becareful of hawiye hadu ku yirahdo somali baan jecel ahay and all that, I saw what they were sxb, experience trumps WORDS.
I will stand up and say your fuckin INSANE. I was living in my ayeeyo house we had to live with 'faynus' you know wat that is waryaa? it's called kerosene lamp for lighting the house because the govt electricity plant was looted by HG. The toilets didn't even flush either, cause all the sewage system pipes were looted by HG.
No joke, even running water in the house didn't exist, they used to bring water thru 'donkey carts' in something called 'boyads'. I will never forget that hawiye era Somalia, there was no life in the city. Even telephone didn't exist, no joke, u wud share a phone with all your 'xafaad', Can u imagine that, the priveledge u have today in Somalia, I didn't damn see waryaa, u guys all have phones and internet and tv and shit, your quite lucky. Hawiye ha ii xasusin anigu, wax aan soo arkay weeye. I know hawiye wuxu keeni kara keliya 'taasi' niyahow, weligay ma arag meel hawiye joggo oo barwaaqo ah hadi aysan Somali uu imaan sida hamar loo yimi 2004 thru QASAB IYO XOOG
I only can speak of the experience of 99 which falls in the 94-2004 Era after the tribal wars ended and hawiye agreed since they can't agree, to focus on warlord activities meaning, protect your turf, collect taxes, and let the warlord build investment portfolio in nairobi or inside Somalia. I can't imagine the trauma of the 91-94 era Somalis who saw the actual 'wars', because in my time period, they were only skermishes to protect the turf, no direct war since there was no govt to fight over in the first place, ma garatay? they saw it as good solution to save hawiye to not discuss govt or else it could lead to a war among themselves, they kept the nation locked into the warlord era untill abdillahi yusuf said ENUFF IS ENUFF and began the dislogding of HG who was behind this agreement inside Hawiye.
HG told the hawiye koley yaan dawlad laysku dilin, barwaaqada aan iska cuno and our warlords will get rich while the people can sit there eating suugo and shit and living a life of no hope. This was terrible Somalia, wallahi there was no hope u just saw nothing every day, noone going to work, noone doing nothing except the lowly clans who would do the lowly tasks of cleaning homes and shit. No hawiye has the gall to face me because. 1. I am half hawiye. 2. I actually saw what hawiye was when he had power. It ends in warlordism sxb ama 'civil war' hadi dawlad loo keeno as they fight each other for power or ends in aan iska dhuuqno bililiqada and get rich and lets not discuss a govt since it will cause a civil war among hawiye.
Only darods on here tend to debate with me thinking they know everything after visiting somalia in 2016 and shit kkkkkkk. There is people who hold a frightful view of hawiye in power and I am one of them, I saw what I had to eat, sleep, and shit in when Hawiye was in power. It was disgusting.
HG told the hawiye koley yaan dawlad laysku dilin, barwaaqada aan iska cuno and our warlords will get rich while the people can sit there eating suugo and shit and living a life of no hope. This was terrible Somalia, wallahi there was no hope u just saw nothing every day, noone going to work, noone doing nothing except the lowly clans who would do the lowly tasks of cleaning homes and shit. No hawiye has the gall to face me because. 1. I am half hawiye. 2. I actually saw what hawiye was when he had power. It ends in warlordism sxb ama 'civil war' hadi dawlad loo keeno as they fight each other for power or ends in aan iska dhuuqno bililiqada and get rich and lets not discuss a govt since it will cause a civil war among hawiye.
Only darods on here tend to debate with me thinking they know everything after visiting somalia in 2016 and shit kkkkkkk. There is people who hold a frightful view of hawiye in power and I am one of them, I saw what I had to eat, sleep, and shit in when Hawiye was in power. It was disgusting.
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I hope PL collects data and facts from Somalis who lived under Hawiye control. We need to divide Hamar into 1960-69 period, kuwasi data collection baan ka rabna as they saw a nice Somalia. 1969-1991 we need to collect data about this era itself from Somalis so we know what Somalia was like. 1991-1994 the civil war era, we need these people to provide they're input about hawiyenimo era. Then 1994-2004 we need another group of people to provide they're experience on warlord era and no govt era. I can definitely speak in this ERA group cause I WAS THERE. No govt era and warlord era was simple deal, lets not fight over presidency, lets just keep the govt away so we don't end up fighting was the pact of abgaal/hg/murusade. They basically kept the nation hostage to 10 warlords getting rich while the nation died away in filth, I will never forgive them for this betrayal of qaranimada and never will trust them with power.
From 2004-2019 is the federal govt era, idinku idin taala kuwasi waa dadka manta joggo inay bugaag hada si qoran si jiilka dambe aysan uu cilowbin, we cant keep passing things thru oral transmission constantly and not writing it down.
From 2004-2019 is the federal govt era, idinku idin taala kuwasi waa dadka manta joggo inay bugaag hada si qoran si jiilka dambe aysan uu cilowbin, we cant keep passing things thru oral transmission constantly and not writing it down.
@Lex Luther one thing I respect about you, you don't waste time on Darod too much, as u know your biggest enemy is hawiye. U know hawiye agreed to no govt and warlord era because they will kill each other like the 4 month war. It was ceasefire between them since 94-2004 on the premise no govt discussion happens and warlord activities continue. That's why it's paramount hawiye inu heeshiyo, not darod iyo hawiye.
Cuz the war will start with hawiye the second ur elected or vice versa or it will go to insurgency like it is now, they don't want another hawiye in power, thats why you lot get so divided and select darod or isaaq or rahanwayn who see this as an opportunity but it's not hawiye illa u ka heeshiyo your presidency is USELESS and wont leave a mark on the nation.
Hawiye unity is paramount but it's non existent. Murusade and HG seem to be the ones who are at the MOST ODD, abgaal/hg have truce and can live together I saw it in 99 as long as GOVT ISNT DISCUSSED. Where-as Darods are like f*ck U HAWIYE WE AINT WAITING FOR U CUNTS TO GET ALONG. All this darod n hawiye friction wont end till hawiye unite and respect each other and accept a govt and stop doing shabab or warlordism.
I would go to hamar on the premise HAWIYE WA MIDAYSAN YAHAY, haday kala qaybsan yihin, I will not ask for they're vote bro, i will tell u honestly, waxba idin ma samayn kari, illa hawiye is raco and I wont waste ur time and GO TO PL. Or else the presidency will leave no mark and opposition will rise and shabab will increase and all that nonsense. I want the best for my abtiyaal by being honest to them, waqti maka dhuminayo anigu. The reason hawiye midnimo is important you are the largest stakeholder in hamar, you all need to be on the same page about the govt, NOT CHOOSE SIDES if u do, the hawiye wars begin sxb as the other hawiye thinks u want round 2 on 4 month war SOO MA AHA.
These b22n kids forming alliances within hawiye THINK THIS how too win, it doesn't, it makes hawiye fight hawiye who thinks in loo tashanayo. Murusade is now happy and wants to SETTLE HUGE SCORES WITH HG BY TARGETTING ALL OF EM SEE.
Plus hawiye can trust me since abti ay ii yihin niyahhow anigu, they know hadan xuman uu wado, ana ku dhimanayo since i will be called half hawiye by darods and isolated lol. The success of hawiye is paramount to me as i am half hawiye, i want to say abtiyashay bal eega to my darod and say look at your shitty abtis in waqoyi
Cuz the war will start with hawiye the second ur elected or vice versa or it will go to insurgency like it is now, they don't want another hawiye in power, thats why you lot get so divided and select darod or isaaq or rahanwayn who see this as an opportunity but it's not hawiye illa u ka heeshiyo your presidency is USELESS and wont leave a mark on the nation.
Hawiye unity is paramount but it's non existent. Murusade and HG seem to be the ones who are at the MOST ODD, abgaal/hg have truce and can live together I saw it in 99 as long as GOVT ISNT DISCUSSED. Where-as Darods are like f*ck U HAWIYE WE AINT WAITING FOR U CUNTS TO GET ALONG. All this darod n hawiye friction wont end till hawiye unite and respect each other and accept a govt and stop doing shabab or warlordism.
I would go to hamar on the premise HAWIYE WA MIDAYSAN YAHAY, haday kala qaybsan yihin, I will not ask for they're vote bro, i will tell u honestly, waxba idin ma samayn kari, illa hawiye is raco and I wont waste ur time and GO TO PL. Or else the presidency will leave no mark and opposition will rise and shabab will increase and all that nonsense. I want the best for my abtiyaal by being honest to them, waqti maka dhuminayo anigu. The reason hawiye midnimo is important you are the largest stakeholder in hamar, you all need to be on the same page about the govt, NOT CHOOSE SIDES if u do, the hawiye wars begin sxb as the other hawiye thinks u want round 2 on 4 month war SOO MA AHA.
These b22n kids forming alliances within hawiye THINK THIS how too win, it doesn't, it makes hawiye fight hawiye who thinks in loo tashanayo. Murusade is now happy and wants to SETTLE HUGE SCORES WITH HG BY TARGETTING ALL OF EM SEE.
Plus hawiye can trust me since abti ay ii yihin niyahhow anigu, they know hadan xuman uu wado, ana ku dhimanayo since i will be called half hawiye by darods and isolated lol. The success of hawiye is paramount to me as i am half hawiye, i want to say abtiyashay bal eega to my darod and say look at your shitty abtis in waqoyi
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The reason hawiye unity is important is because magaladu stakeholderkisa waa hg/abgal/murusade. To play alliances among yourself, can mean wars again in the city, which is pointless. The fact the city is jam packed with hawiye and not one clan, u cant afford to divide yourselves. I have no choice but to invite all hawiyes to my presidency candidacy when I go run for Somalia. Hal meel ba jogtin hawiyow, ha isqaybina intad is lee tihin dano gaar ah ama mid beeleed ku gaara ama contract yar dawlada ka soo leexi towards wacaysle abgaal oo ku taajiir. There are somalis who want to see muqdisho dead oo aysan amni weligeed helin as they fear you will destroy they're clans in the regions by having the federal govt.
While hawiye is playing hawiye politics they need to see there are people who are not interested in your unity or peace, u know why? idinku burbura ku jira ayaa ka barwaaqo badan even hargeisa oo dawlad leh ka waran hadad dawlad heli lahaydeen, u see the FEAR? I DONT FEAR CUZ THEY'RE MY ABTIYAAL ANIGU WAXBA KUMA WAAYI DOONI HAMAR ISKA DHAL MA AHI. Thats why I tell hawiye irirnimada iska cilowa, you dont need it, only they benefit the gaajo isaaq, have u heard stories about hargeisa ppl all in hamar for work, the hargeisa ppl are broke sxb, dawladi waxba ma tarin, ileen waa ISAAQ kkkk. You need to cut deals with MJ who have strong abti links with hawiye for centuries, not chase after irir card.
I never seen nin hawiye ah oo hargeisa joggo oo kushin ka shaqaya, sxb come on be realistic. Even working as waiter in MOG is like being rich man to hargeisan kkkkk, u wont see mjs there either working as waiters and shit. WAAN DHAANA ANAGU. MJ ARE NOT POOR AS ISAAQ, WE ARE NOT IN HAMAR WORKING AS WAITERS AND COOKS. Even hawiye know this fact how bad economically hargeisa is, no matter what HARGEISA VIDEOS they post, ppl look at jeebka umadina and say GAAJO PPL
While hawiye is playing hawiye politics they need to see there are people who are not interested in your unity or peace, u know why? idinku burbura ku jira ayaa ka barwaaqo badan even hargeisa oo dawlad leh ka waran hadad dawlad heli lahaydeen, u see the FEAR? I DONT FEAR CUZ THEY'RE MY ABTIYAAL ANIGU WAXBA KUMA WAAYI DOONI HAMAR ISKA DHAL MA AHI. Thats why I tell hawiye irirnimada iska cilowa, you dont need it, only they benefit the gaajo isaaq, have u heard stories about hargeisa ppl all in hamar for work, the hargeisa ppl are broke sxb, dawladi waxba ma tarin, ileen waa ISAAQ kkkk. You need to cut deals with MJ who have strong abti links with hawiye for centuries, not chase after irir card.
I never seen nin hawiye ah oo hargeisa joggo oo kushin ka shaqaya, sxb come on be realistic. Even working as waiter in MOG is like being rich man to hargeisan kkkkk, u wont see mjs there either working as waiters and shit. WAAN DHAANA ANAGU. MJ ARE NOT POOR AS ISAAQ, WE ARE NOT IN HAMAR WORKING AS WAITERS AND COOKS. Even hawiye know this fact how bad economically hargeisa is, no matter what HARGEISA VIDEOS they post, ppl look at jeebka umadina and say GAAJO PPL
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