Beautiful Puntite bride.

[Prince of Lasanod]

Check somnet, it happened a few years ago, for instance an MJ user found that an Ogaadeen user was his genetic cousin, closely clustered.
A mareexaan found the same thing. I'm sure you can find the results on those genetic forums.

So your proof that 5 million people are related to each other is a fadhi ku dirir website? I don't even know why I bothered.

 

[ethan bradberry]

Nationality wise, but every clan has a forebear.

Zumaale aka Samaale aka "Somali", is the forebear of Dir, Xawaadle, Hawiye etc, not Daarood.

Alright cool, from now on I shall refer to myself as an ethnic isaaq

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

So your proof that 5 million people are related to each other is a fadhi ku dirir website? I don't even know why I bothered.

I don't care what you believe or what you call yourself. Truly.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Alright cool, from now on I shall refer to myself as an ethnic isaaq

That's what Isaaq in Kenya are called. "Isahakia".

 

[Canuck]

I was going to ignore you but this is just too outrageous to pass up.

According to Islam, you can only claim your REAL ancestral lineage, our REAL ancestral lineage is Daarood Jeberti, NOT "Samaale" or "Soomaali".

We chose to name ourselves after the history of the land we inhabit aka Puntland. That is our right and our choice.

Whether you like it or not, Puntites aka Reer Dal Udug have always had a separate history, we even had our own written script and system of rule, one YOUR PEOPLE did not share or create with us.

We are not obliged to claim a name that belongs to a deceased man that is NOT our forebear.


For instance; if we lived in Eritrea like our Jeberti cousins, our nationality would be "Eritrean" but our ethnic group would remain Jeberti NOT "Samaale" aka "Somali". Our cousins in Oman are called after their clan names as is the Islamic practise, NOT "Somali".

If YOUR ancestor was called "Samaale" aka "Somali", claim him because that's YOUR history. Not ours.

@Luna is fellow Darood like me but we are Somalis first then Darood second. Also, Darood came from Dir (samaale) mother. According to our religion in the end of time. We will be called by our mothers ' names which shows importance of your mother side.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@Luna is fellow Darood like me but we are Somalis first then Darood second. Also, Darood came from Dir (samaale) mother. According to our religion in the end of time. We will be called by our mothers ' names which shows importance of your mother side.

Canuck, it's not the end of time yet, so until that happens, I am Daarood first.
But I respect your argument. THAT actually makes sense, but being forced to claim "Samaale" because "Daarood is fake", is insulting and nonsensical.

 

[ethan bradberry]

That's what Isaaq in Kenya are called. "Isahakia".

There's isaaqs in Kenya?
Isaaq are spreading around the world

 

[Canuck]

Canuck, it's not the end of time yet, so until that happens, I am Daarood first.
But I respect your argument. THAT actually makes sense, but being forced to claim "Samaale" because "Daarood is fake", is insulting and nonsensical.

Identifying yourself with tribe is very backward and primitive thing. You can not find something like in the modern society like Sweden , North Korea, Norway, North America. Those societies are well advanced and left the tribalism in medieval time. Unlike the gulf countries and third world countries that still operate in 2017with mentality of Stone Age.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

There's isaaqs in Kenya?
Isaaq are spreading around the world

Yeah, they live in this province with Harti. I have forgotten the name.
Been there since colonialism.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Identifying yourself with tribe is very backward and primitive thing. You can not find something like in the modern society like Sweden , North Korea, Norway, North America. Those societies are well advanced and left the tribalism in medieval time. Unlike the gulf countries and third world countries that still operate in 2017with mentality of Stone Age.

Says the lady that constantly claims Dhulbahante. Why are you calling yourself "backwards and primitive"?

What's next? Is identifying with your nuclear family "primitive and backwards"?

"modern societies" have disintegrated because they left their families behind. There are individualistic aka "selfish", if you think that's progressive, that's up to you.

 

[Canuck]

Says the lady that constantly claims Dhulbahante. Why are you calling yourself "backwards and primitive"?

What's next? Is identifying with your nuclear family, primitive?

I do not use clan name to belittle, insult, and segregate myself from Somalis.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I do not use clan name to belittle, insult, and segregate myself from Somalis.

However, you USE your clan name. You said IDENTIFYING with clan was "primitive and backwards".

Read what you type before you send it.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

However, you USE it. You said IDENTIFYING with clan was "primitive and backwards".

Read what you type before you send it.

If you were asked in the west what your ethnicity was, would you tell them that you're a "Puntite" or a "Darood" ?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

If you were asked in the west what you're ethnicity was, would you tell them that you're a "Puntite" or a "Darood" ?

Yep.

Just like how a Masai in Kenya would tell people in the West that they are "Masai" first, Kenyan by nationality.
Simple concept.

 

[Canuck]

I'm not saying that daroods don't have a common ancestor, I'm just trying to say that daroods are the same as the rest of Somalis(which is backed by genetics). He might of existed but the notion of him being an Arab is false since most daroods have hablogroup e1b1b1 whereas Arabs have hablogroup j.

There are Darood clans who are J.

 

[ethan bradberry]

There are Darood clans who are J.

I know there mostly warsangeli. But majority of daroods have hablogroup e1b1b1.

 

[Canuck]

However, you USE your clan name. You said IDENTIFYING with clan was "primitive and backwards".

Read what you type before you send it.

You are here using your tribe name "Darood" to segregate yourself from Somalis and rejecting the somalia the country which comes before the Darood. And me as Darood fellow can not accept something like that.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

You are here using your tribe name "Darood" to segregate yourself from Somalis and rejecting the somalia the country which comes before the Darood. And me as Darood fellow can not accept something like that.

I can call myself what I will. That's my right.
Macasalaama.

 

[Coulombs law]

If you didnt condemn their actions in 1991 and if you're a proud HAG then yes you're guilty by associate.

This is the answer I was waiting for

Not everyone is as old as you and lived through the war in 1991 Ayeeyo and Whether I condemn their actions or not I don't have to prove anything to you.

May Allah forgive you for your blasphemous accusations and may he guide you on the straight path.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

This is the answer I was waiting for

Not everyone is as old as you and lived through the war in 1991 Ayeeyo and Whether I condemn their actions or not I don't have to prove anything to you.

May Allah forgive you for your blasphemous accusations and may he guide you on the straight path.

Wait so you're telling me i was there?

Old? You are actually older than me Adeer don't get it twisted. Just because I've studied the civil war and researched it and watched the interviews where HAG folks were proud to kill.

I find it hilarious when former moryaans try to use the religion. Don't pray for me, pray for yourself, your dad and uncles who committed the crimes.


Aideed is waiting for y'all in the pits of hell.