Badbaado Qaran are killing each other on the outskirts of Muqdishu

[TekNiKo]

Ciidamada Saney Cabdulle iyo Cusmaan Xaadoole oo ku dagaalamay Muqdisho

Muqdisho (Caasimada Online) - Wararka naga soo gaaraya duleedka magaalada Muqdisho, gaar ahaan dhinaca deegaanka Gubadley ayaa sheegaya in saaka dagaal u dhexeeyey ciidamo ka wada tirsan milatariga dowladda Soomaaliya uu ka qarxay halkaasi Dagaalka ayaa waxaa lagu soo warramayaa inuu u dhexeeyo...

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First it was Galmudug now they are fighting heavily and many men have died they are still in their defensive positions as an all out war breaks out over isbaaros and dhul.

The natural aversion to peace and stability in the lands of the Horde.

 

[repo]

They are SNA for all intents and purposes, that's their organization.

 

[JaalleWadani]

You have gone mad now. No galgaduud sare for you.

 

[Jungle]

this happened about 15 hours ago. odowaa got in the middle of them and everything is calm rn. no defensive positions/dhufeys

anyone that brings up a caasimadda article should get an unverified tag put on their thread straight away imo.

 

[Gantaal97]

Hopefully the next president that comes in should totally revamp the whole armed forces so this kind of incidents never happens again

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

They are SNA for all intents and purposes, that's their organization.

Had Sharmaajo followed the original agreed upon plan which was to train 3000 soldiers from each Federal State, there would have been a diverse army that is not loyal to a clansman but the government itself.

We are lucky he's a short-sighted buffoon, because if he executed the original plan, he would have commanded a formidable force numbering around 15,000 soldiers that only wants a paycheck. He could have pacified the entire South with this Somali National Army.

Instead, he trained only Hawiye and D&M, who will never trust him and rightfully so. The minute that their uncles called them, his entire "Gorgor/Haramcad" army fell apart and he was only left with his own nephews and a few others.

 

[wheel]

Had Sharmaajo followed the original agreed upon plan which was to train 3000 soldiers from each Federal State, there would have been a diverse army that is not loyal to a clansman but the government itself.

We are lucky he's a short-sighted buffoon, because if he executed the original plan, he would have commanded a formidable force numbering around 15,000 soldiers that only wants a paycheck. He could have pacified the entire South with this Somali National Army.

Instead, he trained only Hawiye and D&M, who will never trust him and rightfully so. The minute that their uncles called them, his entire "Gorgor/Haramcad" army fell apart and he was only left with his own nephews and a few others.

The deal he wanted was to train 3k from each of the major clans. There are daroods in these troops. I think just he tried to circumvent certain sub clans.

 

[TekNiKo]

Had Sharmaajo followed the original agreed upon plan which was to train 3000 soldiers from each Federal State, there would have been a diverse army that is not loyal to a clansman but the government itself.

We are lucky he's a short-sighted buffoon, because if he executed the original plan, he would have commanded a formidable force numbering around 15,000 soldiers that only wants a paycheck. He could have pacified the entire South with this Somali National Army.

Instead, he trained only Hawiye and D&M, who will never trust him and rightfully so. The minute that their uncles called them, his entire "Gorgor/Haramcad" army fell apart and he was only left with his own nephews and a few others.

It was Puntland and Jubbaland who refused the deal Gaas signed it in 2018 and Deni renegged on it. Blame your uncles that prefer PL Army over SNA

 

[JaalleWadani]

The deal he wanted was to train 3k from each of the major clans. There are daroods in these troops. I think just he tried to circumvent certain sub clans.

which?

 

[wheel]

which?

By choosing from each of the major clans instead of the FS, he avoided ogaden/mj, and got more mx/dhulos.

 

[JaalleWadani]

By choosing from each of the major clans instead of the FS, he avoided ogaden/mj, and got more mx/dhulos.

waa roxaantii siyad bare!

 

[fais]

Is this not a national army, can they fire the 2 idiots fighting and replace them with 2 other second raking in those regiments?

 

[cow]

Is this not a national army, can they fire the 2 idiots fighting and replace them with 2 other second raking in those regiments?

everything has a time and place there is no point in firing a couple of thousand soldiers and their commanders at this moment. the number one priority is election when the election is over a lot of the mooryaan in the SNA will be fired.

the army being trained in Eritrea will replace the mooryaan under madoobe the mooryaan under these two and the mooryaan under the sufis.

it is estimated between 5000 to 7000 are in Eritrea. but even then it will be done is stages jubbaland will be stage 1 then galmudug and then mooryaan in middle shabeele.

 

[fais]

everything has a time and place there is no point in firing a couple of thousand soldiers and their commanders at this moment.

No no bro just the commanders these people will f*ck everything up what's stopping them from fighting if "their guy" don't win the presidency....

 

[cow]

No no bro just the commanders these people will f*ck everything up what's stopping them from fighting if "their guy" don't win the presidency....

one thing I have noticed about farmaajo is he never makes a play until he knows he can 100 percent win. Why fire two guys when their replacements are still in Eritrea? it makes no sense. Sometimes the head has to overrule the heart.

 

[repo]

Had Sharmaajo followed the original agreed upon plan which was to train 3000 soldiers from each Federal State, there would have been a diverse army that is not loyal to a clansman but the government itself.

We are lucky he's a short-sighted buffoon, because if he executed the original plan, he would have commanded a formidable force numbering around 15,000 soldiers that only wants a paycheck. He could have pacified the entire South with this Somali National Army.

Instead, he trained only Hawiye and D&M, who will never trust him and rightfully so. The minute that their uncles called them, his entire "Gorgor/Haramcad" army fell apart and he was only left with his own nephews and a few others.

It was Puntland and Jubbaland who refused the deal Gaas signed it in 2018 and Deni renegged on it. Blame your uncles that prefer PL Army over SNA

"Not surprisingly, no integration of the PMPF or PSF is under discussion. However, the previous Puntland administration of Abdiweli Gaas (President from 2014–18) agreed to integrate 2,400 darwish into the SNA. Yet, despite the existence of a trust fund dedicated to the purpose, the Farmajo Administration failed to pay the integrated soldiers for 18 months after the integration supposedly occurred."

When Dani assumed the presidency of the state in 2018, he was at odds with the federal Government over the issue and worried that the darwish forces turning loose or defecting to their communities. At the beginning of 2020, he recalled the integrated soldiers — who had been biometrically registered with the SNA — and designated them a special police force under his control.

Arguably, the failure to integrate the Puntland darwish has been a critical mistake of the Farmajo Administration, and has set back the national State-building process. If the integration had proceeded well, the SNA would have been strengthened, reducing the number of militias and potentially addressing long-standing centre-periphery tensions."

https://i.unu.edu/media/cpr.unu.edu/post/3895/HybridConflictSomaliaWeb.pdf

Farmajo's own sabotage came back to haunt him. All those troops are now under Puntland where they should be.

 

[JaalleWadani]

one thing I have noticed about farmaajo is he never makes a play until he knows he can 100 percent win. Why fire two guys when their replacements are still in Eritrea? it makes no sense. Sometimes the head has to overrule the heart.

those in eritera will not be too loyal to him either.

 

[fais]

those in eritera will not be too loyal to him either.

They would be loyal to Isaias Afwerki

 

[cow]

those in eritera will not be too loyal to him either.

the guys fighting are those who where SNA under hassan sheikh. GorGor and haramcad are loyal to farmaajo, odowaa and xijaar are also loyal. the troops in Eritrea are loyal.

slowly the army is being changed from the mooryaan of sheikh sharif and hassan sheikh to newly trained soldiers that are loyal to their commander in chief.

 

[JaalleWadani]

the guys fighting are those who where SNA under hassan sheikh. GorGor and haramcad are loyal to farmaajo, odowaa and xijaar are also loyal. the troops in Eritrea are loyal.

slowly the army is being changed from the mooryaan of sheikh sharif and hassan sheikh to newly trained soldiers that are loyal to their commander in chief.

ya salaaaaaaaaaaaaam, but are you autistic ?