Average Somali IQ is far greater than I thought

Qeelbax

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In Minnesota, Somali Students are not “below” other students. Stats show somalo students meet state standards and receive “average” scores. Mind you minnesota is ranked 2nd in education, after Massachusetts.
The Average IQ in Minnesota is 103.7, So we must be in the high 90s and low 100s? Per my experience attending school with somali students in Minnesota, there are many hard workers but there are also quite a lot of slackers, not kids who procrastinate but kids who never do their work/skip class and end up failing. If somali parents had more control over their kids and more parents understood checking grades and checking in with their child, I feel as though somalis would be competing with the likes of Singapore/Japan.

Somalis on average do as good as vietnamese students, who from province to province, have iqs ranging 94-112. Wallahi the person who gave somalis the 68 IQ title are straight up racists.
 
Anyone who believes Somalis have an IQ of 68, has an IQ of 68. How the fk would they test Somalis in Somalia to assess their IQ? In war torn fkin Somalia, they're gonna send IQ tests written in Somali to get to the bottom of the all important mystery of their IQ. The IQ myth has to die, it's getting ridiculous. :pachah1:
 

Yahya

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In Minnesota, Somali Students are not “below” other students. Stats show somalo students meet state standards and receive “average” scores. Mind you minnesota is ranked 2nd in education, after Massachusetts.
The Average IQ in Minnesota is 103.7, So we must be in the high 90s and low 100s? Per my experience attending school with somali students in Minnesota, there are many hard workers but there are also quite a lot of slackers, not kids who procrastinate but kids who never do their work/skip class and end up failing. If somali parents had more control over their kids and more parents understood checking grades and checking in with their child, I feel as though somalis would be competing with the likes of Singapore/Japan.

Somalis on average do as good as vietnamese students, who from province to province, have iqs ranging 94-112. Wallahi the person who gave somalis the 68 IQ title are straight up racists.
How can I test my iq reliably? always wanted to do it.


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In Minnesota, Somali Students are not “below” other students. Stats show somalo students meet state standards and receive “average” scores. Mind you minnesota is ranked 2nd in education, after Massachusetts.
The Average IQ in Minnesota is 103.7, So we must be in the high 90s and low 100s? Per my experience attending school with somali students in Minnesota, there are many hard workers but there are also quite a lot of slackers, not kids who procrastinate but kids who never do their work/skip class and end up failing. If somali parents had more control over their kids and more parents understood checking grades and checking in with their child, I feel as though somalis would be competing with the likes of Singapore/Japan.

Somalis on average do as good as vietnamese students, who from province to province, have iqs ranging 94-112. Wallahi the person who gave somalis the 68 IQ title are straight up racists.

It's literally a fake and made up number:

The most annoying thing about that IQ thing is that it's a flat-out lie. It's from the known racist and charlatan Richard Lynn's original paper where they were shown to have fabricated the results of many countries to suit their agenda while pretty much ignoring the Flynn Effect which shows that, as countries industrialize, their average IQ rises to the level of current industrialized countries which, for example, explains the variability of Chines IQ since the 1980s.

You know what they did with Somalia? They tested one malnourished Ethiopian village with a supposed IQ of 64 then just assumed Somalia was at some sort of average between that single Ethiopian village and another neighboring country like Kenya where they again just used one small, biased sample. They never even tested any Somalis.

These people deserve to lynched for insulting and dehumanizing entire peoples like this. Human garbage. And shame on any self-hating Somali who ever quoted this crap and didn't do their homework.
 
You guys really think the number was made up? :mjlol: Somalis will say anything just to make themselves feel better somalis are a honorary 68:mjdontkno:

Bro, follow the link. It's not a matter of think. It IS made up. Read the original paper; they literally never had Somali samples at all. How are you still defending this? The author of the paper has been called out by other scientists, in papers, for years for his unethical practices. He made the number up. This is not even arguable.
 

mr steal your naag

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Bro, follow the link. It's not a matter of think. It IS made up. Read the original paper; they literally never had Somali samples at all. How are you still defending this?
Because they did those tests in kenya and ethiopia. ethiopia has 69 kenya has 80. do You really think somalis have a higher IQ then kenya and ethiopia?, even djibouti has 68
 

Periplus

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Because they did those tests in kenya and ethiopia. ethiopia has 69 kenya has 80. do You really think somalis have a higher IQ then kenya and ethiopia?, even djibouti has 68

I feel like I’m saying this for the millionth time.

But Somalis need to read Orientalism by Edward Said.
 
Because they did those tests in kenya and ethiopia. ethiopia has 69 kenya has 80. do You really think somalis have a higher IQ then kenya and ethiopia?, even djibouti has 68

The Jabuuti number is fake too from what I remember and they did that Ethiopian test on a random, small, malnourished village. You do realize IQ is not static, right? That nutrition and even socioeconomic class among other factors like toxins have a huge effect hence the huge variability across China since the 1980s:



Or have you even heard of the Flynn effect where virtually all countries and places see their IQs improve and normalize at a 90-110 range once they industrialize, improve nutrition and so forth? Now do you realize how retarded and unscientific it is to test a poor, small (statistically worthless) rural village in Ethiopia and whatever other bullshit sample they got from Kenya and extrapolate that onto all Somalis everywhere of every socioeconomic class across Somaliweyn and the qurbo?

You would seriously have to have a 68 IQ to believe this is valid thinking.

:dead:
 

mr steal your naag

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The Jabuuti number is fake too from what I remember and they did that Ethiopian test on a random, small, malnourished village. You do realize IQ is not static, right? That nutrition and even socioeconomic class among other factors like toxins have a huge effect hence the huge variability across China since the 1980s:



Or have you even heard of the Flynn effect where virtually all countries and places see their IQs improve and normalize at a 90-110 range once they industrialize, improve nutrition and so forth? Now do you realize how retarded and unscientific it is to test a poor, small (statistically worthless) rural village in Ethiopia and whatever other bullshit sample they got from Kenya and extrapolate that onto all Somalis everywhere of every socioeconomic class across Somaliweyn and the qurbo?

You would seriously have to have a 68 IQ to believe this is valid thinking.

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So what do you think the average IQ of a Somali is? and be honnest :comeon:
 
So what do you think the average IQ of a Somali is? and be honnest :comeon:

Believe it or not, saxiib, most of the world is negligibly different. You would most likely see the same results as in China above. Rural, poor, malnourished types and some among them who live next to polluted areas will likely score pretty low (60s-80s) whereas it would be pretty damn unlikely for anyone with anything beyond a highschool education and a middle-class or above standing in the magaalo to be below around 90. Probably even see plenty of people with 100+ IQs among this subgroup.
 
You guys really think the number was made up? :mjlol: Somalis will say anything just to make themselves feel better somalis are a honorary 68:mjdontkno:


I've heard that 68 IQ nonsense too many times. In psychological assessments someone who has less than 70 IQ is considered to have a learning disability.

If you are defending this 68 average is the average person in your family learning disabled or retarded?

It's important to remember that these IQ tests were designed for a white European audience. Besides there is not the same literacy level in Somalia.

You cannot measure a geeljire, who can barely read, on a written IQ test. Also in our culture, knowledge was shared by memorising poetry or stories. Even now multitudes of Somalis have memorised the Quran, which is a massive intellectual achievement. This does not show a lack of intelligence but a limitation of these tests.

I had to say something as even though the 68 IQ is clearly false, I have heard it thrown around too much. If it's said enough times it may seep into people's unconsciousness and limit them. Making a self fulfilling prophecy.
 

Guardafui

Beati Pacifici.
Somalis definitely suffer from low emotional intelligence I mean we’re the only homogenous people that broke the record (30 years and counting) of not wanting to comprise for the sake of the nation. Imagine people holding clan grudges and have to ruin EVERY government that is formed because the leaders are from different qabil and they feel superior and won’t listen no xishood whatsoever it’s like bunch children with no control. Even with stupid 4.5 power sharing it’s not enough we’ll still find a way to mess everything up. it’s embarrassing walahi. Since year 2000 we could have moved on rebuilt all the gov institutions even before AS was formed. It’s definitely genetic I don’t see no other explanation.
 
In Minnesota, Somali Students are not “below” other students. Stats show somalo students meet state standards and receive “average” scores. Mind you minnesota is ranked 2nd in education, after Massachusetts.
The Average IQ in Minnesota is 103.7, So we must be in the high 90s and low 100s? Per my experience attending school with somali students in Minnesota, there are many hard workers but there are also quite a lot of slackers, not kids who procrastinate but kids who never do their work/skip class and end up failing. If somali parents had more control over their kids and more parents understood checking grades and checking in with their child, I feel as though somalis would be competing with the likes of Singapore/Japan.

Somalis on average do as good as vietnamese students, who from province to province, have iqs ranging 94-112. Wallahi the person who gave somalis the 68 IQ title are straight up racists.

That 69iq nonsense was debunked ages ago btw.
 

Periplus

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The 68 IQ figure is one of the better examples of Orientalist condescension amongst Somalis.

Somalis generally take the word of any white academic as gospel, even if said academic has no qualifications.

We have to realise that many of these academics have bias, in that they do their studies with a preconceived conclusion and dismissal of any positives by Somalis.

This IQ test has been regularly debunked as biased and attempting to prove a preconceived racialised point about intelligence.

However, Somalis have almost associated themselves with this false IQ figure, without ever questioning its source.

@mr steal your naag Do you even know who came up with the 68 IQ myth?

Probably not, but Somalis still want to use it in FKD as if isnt insulting them.

Mental colonialism.

:snoop:
 

Periplus

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The author of the Somali 68 IQ myth is a known perpetuator of Scientific Racism (using science to justify racism).

He unironically claimed in a publication that the lighter skinned an African-American was, the more intelligent.

He is widely debunked by Western scholars, who have exposed him for doctoring results to fit a racist narrative.

Yet Somalis believe he genuinely came to a non-biased conclusion of Somali IQ without ever stepping foot in Somalia.

:mindblown:
 
Somalis definitely suffer from low emotional intelligence I mean we’re the only homogenous people that broke the record (30 years and counting) of not wanting to comprise for the sake of the nation. Imagine people holding clan grudges and have to ruin EVERY government that is formed because the leaders are from different qabil and they feel superior and won’t listen no xishood whatsoever it’s like bunch children with no control. Even with stupid 4.5 power sharing it’s not enough we’ll still find a way to mess everything up. it’s embarrassing walahi. Since year 2000 we could have moved on rebuilt all the gov institutions even before AS was formed. It’s definitely genetic I don’t see no other explanation.


I agree that it's terrible with the qabayaalad as it defies logic to act like that. However, it's definitely not genetic to be fighting a civil war. Some of the most developed countries now had periods of long civil wars.

England: 'The Wars of the Roses- civil war last 32 years.

France: 'The French wars of religion- civil war lasted 36 years.

Korea: 'Korean war'- lasted 3 years but technically still declared at war 70 years on.

The Scandinavians vikings were known to be barbarians, now they are big miskiin.

It's qabayaalad mentality (environment) that causes violence not a Somali gene.
 

Guardafui

Beati Pacifici.
Well you have point but one might argue that was centuries ago where the world was a shitty place anyways with so much poverty and little knowledge and South Koreans they strived so hard to copy the Japanese which eventually made them a 1st world even though their cousins in the north are starving but at least they have a strong gov. My point is this whole culture of refusing to unite and listening to each other is a bit unique to us wars happen but nations move on properly like Rwanda for example for Somalis it’s almost impossible to forgive and let go.
 

ZizuFlyer

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The 68 IQ figure is one of the better examples of Orientalist condescension amongst Somalis.

Somalis generally take the word of any white academic as gospel, even if said academic has no qualifications.

We have to realise that many of these academics have bias, in that they do their studies with a preconceived conclusion and dismissal of any positives by Somalis.

This IQ test has been regularly debunked as biased and attempting to prove a preconceived racialised point about intelligence.

However, Somalis have almost associated themselves with this false IQ figure, without ever questioning its source.

@mr steal your naag Do you even know who came up with the 68 IQ myth?

Probably not, but Somalis still want to use it in FKD as if isnt insulting them.

Mental colonialism.

:snoop:
A Swedish doctor :gaasdrink:

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/m6e1Bq/lakare-somalier-har-en-iq-pa-70
 
In Minnesota, Somali Students are not “below” other students. Stats show somalo students meet state standards and receive “average” scores. Mind you minnesota is ranked 2nd in education, after Massachusetts.
The Average IQ in Minnesota is 103.7, So we must be in the high 90s and low 100s? Per my experience attending school with somali students in Minnesota, there are many hard workers but there are also quite a lot of slackers, not kids who procrastinate but kids who never do their work/skip class and end up failing. If somali parents had more control over their kids and more parents understood checking grades and checking in with their child, I feel as though somalis would be competing with the likes of Singapore/Japan.

Somalis on average do as good as vietnamese students, who from province to province, have iqs ranging 94-112. Wallahi the person who gave somalis the 68 IQ title are straight up racists.

Many somalis just aren’t that strict with their children especially regarding education. The amount of somalis I saw slacking in school was mindblowing, niggas were chillin and there I was sweating myself to death
 
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