Aussie Professional Success Stories

[Periplus]

You guys are running with a Somali girl who became a lawyer. If that is only legal profession that you can demonstrate, then I gotta tell you guys, you need to get over the false pravado.

Go ahead and pull the receipts.

Bro we have a whole lawyers association.

I literally linked a news article talking about it

 

[Based]

Somalians never fail to surprise me. Instead of fighting about which diaspora is less welfare dependant, how about joining together to make your homelands less hellish. These people flee from their dusty shitty tuulos just to make it to the west and continue bickering and dividing their walaalo. @DR OSMAN grow up who gives a shit

 

[DR OSMAN]

40% unemployment rate in @Roorigeg homeland of columbus

As seen in many other communities, the Somali population has been hit hard with high unemployment rates. As of now it is estimated that the unemployment rate in the Somali community is at 40%. The lack of employment not only causes short-term effects such as a possible loss of housing, transportation, and other resources, but also keeps the Somali population as a whole in a lower-income economic bracket.

Waryaa we only have 25% unemployment rate(a good chunk of that are cash in hand or welfare fraudsters n freshies as we call them). Plus this lady isn't one or two token negros like your america, your own statistics showed u that 25% of Somali workforce in OZ are professional or tradesman.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Somalians never fail to surprise me. Instead of fighting about which diaspora is less welfare dependant, how about joining together to make your homelands less hellish. These people flee from their dusty shitty tuulos just to make it to the west and continue bickering and dividing their walaalo. @DR OSMAN grow up who gives a shit

Diaspora vs Diaspora is important metric to account for as each diaspora back in Somalia will chill out with their own diaspora, irrrespective of clan lines. Plus our politics will be vastly different when we discuss what is best for somalia as each diaspora will want to model Somalia into the country they live in or they're politics is inspired from they're own homeland. @Periplus knows this why don't you @Based

PPL from europe n australia have simlar systems and social norms, where-as in america they are different and it's critical we baseline who is more productive. The Aussie diaspora is a very small community in comparison to America and we are punching way beyond our means, while this @Roorigeg has the largest somali diaspora and has nothing to show for it except a token negro lawyer, not statistics discussing their professional or trades statistics because it's not even worth bothering to look.

They are all truck drivers, taxi, nurses, meat plant workers. He thinks he can fool me when I been to America and know how dire the situation is. Roori it's time to step down. U lost on all these metrics which u conveniently ignore.

1. Most livable cities all australian major cities are in the top 20, melbourne is no 1 for 10 years straight, and another 4 cities in top 10 in the world. U ignored this conveniently when u know AMERICA top city doesn't even reach top 50 in the world.

2. HDI indicators, australia is no 8, you are no 17

3. Our business rate in Australia is higher then America's

4. Our houses are way bigger and land plots.

5. Australia isn't segregated like America

6. We have a continent the size of america for only 25 million people

7. The rate of home ownership in Australia is way higher then American diaspora

8. We enjoy a social safety system, u will cry when me and @Periplus @Nilotic are sitting in Somalia in our senior years and retired enjoying our supperannuation(mandatory 401k) for all industries and even if we finish that we still enjoy an 'age pension' while your ass is running around broke with no 401k, no age pension, and your spending thousanads just in meds.

9. We didn't even discuss crime rates, u wud be so humiliated. 1 in 100k is our homicide rate. 5 in 100k is yours. 5 times more killings in America then Australia.

10. Australia is modern. Our suburbs designed properly with residential zoning, commercial zoning, industrial zoning all separate. We have beautiful parks and ovals in every suburb by mandatory law of 'public open spaces'. We enjoy regular bbqs at parks and beaches here all public facilities.

11. Only reer europe have better trains n buses then us, every american who comes in adores our transportation only reer europe look down on it. So i give that to reer europe cuz i seen how wicked the TUBE is in london and their buses. But u also need to equate london is a very small area city 1,572 km². Sydney has the huge suburbia stretching it out to 12,368 km². So it's basically 12 times the area size of London, so as u can imagine travel distances are longer. But london is larger population then sydney. About twice as large in ppl, we only 5 million

 

[DR OSMAN]

In 2020, homicide rate for Australia was 0.9 cases per 100000 population

@Roorigeg is crying now so why these niggas so safe looooooool, it's cause of our GUN LAWS which your so called exceptional america refuses to take. Let's look at America homicide rate

There were 7.8 homicides for every 100,000 people in the United States in 2020

Waryaa Roori it's actually increased from 5 the last time I checked to now 8. Now you live 8 times in more danger of death, then your average aussie. We also beat u in life expectancy rate. 83 for Australia and 78 for America. 8 bodies for every 100,000 american, only 1 body for 100,000 aussies.

 

[Man with a garuun]

In 2020, homicide rate for Australia was 0.9 cases per 100000 population

@Roorigeg is crying now so why these niggas so safe looooooool, it's cause of our GUN LAWS which your so called exceptional america refuses to take. Let's look at America homicide rate

There were 7.8 homicides for every 100,000 people in the United States in 2020

Waryaa Roori it's actually increased from 5 the last time I checked to now 8. Now you live 8 times in more danger of death, then your average aussie. We also beat u in life expectancy rate. 83 for Australia and 78 for America

So you're comparing a country of 340 million people where the gun ownership is in the constitution to a country of 25 million people whose people can't own guns? Come on. There are things that I don't debate. America's gun problem is well-known, but that is guns can be owned and acquired easily.

 

[Man with a garuun]

There's absolutely no competition. Somali Americans are the most successful western diaspora

100%

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg Visit Australia, u will escape the threat of homicide. 8 times more likely to die in America then Australia. I compared per 100,000 waryaa. For every 100k in your society, your collecting 8 dead bodies, I am collecting 1.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Periplus I think your right. UK is closer culturally to Australia, but not they're city n town lay out, we adopted the american style but with far more 'class' then them. If in Somalia if you can't find an aussie diaspora we look for new zealanders and if we can't find them, then yeah we connect better with UK culturally and from north america definitely canada and within USA, it's definitely the 'west coast' like california, seattle, blue states and similar weather. waxan ku bakthiyay baraf iyo gabow isma naqan @Roorigeg

 

[Man with a garuun]

But if we look at the points that he raised, they're just propaganda and have no real facts to back them. First of all, Australia can't be compared with America: 25 million vs 340 million people. A nation (Ausstralia) who relies on their defense solely on the US.

America is the home of innovation. Just look at the leading corporations, and see it yourself how many are Australian and how many are American. He is comparing a banana republic to a ruling empire of the world today.

Diaspora vs Diaspora is important metric to account for as each diaspora back in Somalia will chill out with their own diaspora, irrrespective of clan lines. Plus our politics will be vastly different when we discuss what is best for somalia as each diaspora will want to model Somalia into the country they live in or they're politics is inspired from they're own homeland. @Periplus knows this why don't you @Based

PPL from europe n australia have simlar systems and social norms, where-as in america they are different and it's critical we baseline who is more productive. The Aussie diaspora is a very small community in comparison to America and we are punching way beyond our means, while this @Roorigeg has the largest somali diaspora and has nothing to show for it except a token negro lawyer, not statistics discussing their professional or trades statistics because it's not even worth bothering to look.

Nigga is bragging about Australia when that country no longer accepts Somali immigration and refugees - all of it due to the poor performances of the Somali community already in Australia.

South Sudan, Somalia and Iran excluded from one of Australia's refugee programs

Democratic Republic of Congo, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Myanmar, Bhutan, Syria and Iraq to be prioritised

www.theguardian.com

And for those who arrive there, they get locked up in Nauru and Papua New Guinea, where they're subjected to psychological trauma.

However, in the US, the Somali refugee resettlement is continuing. And if a Somali refugee comes to the US today, they don't get locked in an island somewhere in the pacific. They're allowed to hire a lawyer and are given a work permit until their case is decided. And even if the immigration judge denies their case, they're given a temporary protected status (TPS) in the US where they're allowed to stay in the US until the conditions are deemed fit to for repatriation in Somalia.

Now, what we can see from the immigration policies of both countries is: One country (USA) is more humane than the other and accepts and resettles Somalis and other refugees decently and humanely, whereas the other (Australia) rejects any Somali newcomer because of the crime rates and poor performances of the Somalis already in that country -- this should clearly tell us the poor performance of Somalis in Australia has really caused a negative attitude on the part of the Australian govt that instituted disastrous refugee and immigration policies that caused so much pain to new Somali refugees into Australia who got locked in the Pacific, where some of them were even raped there.

Somali refugee raped on Nauru brought to Australia for pregnancy termination

The 23-year-old woman, who had for several weeks been requesting transfer but had been refused, was flown to Brisbane late on Sunday

www.theguardian.com

This guy is bragging about a country who treats an asylum seeker like the trauma that woman was subjected. That is a disaster.

They are all truck drivers, taxi, nurses, meat plant workers. He thinks he can fool me when I been to America and know how dire the situation is. Roori it's time to step down. U lost on all these metrics which u conveniently ignore.

So working in different professions and earning an honest living is an insult now. How about you guys earning a mere $378 per week, when other immigrants are earning $677 a week? How can the Somalis earn far lower than everyone else in Australia? The country's poverty line is at $423 a week. So can you explain why Somali Australians would earn even lower than the poverty lane? I can't believe people who earn a mere $378 a week have the audacity to talk about a truck drivers who roughly earn $6000 a week provided he or she owns the truck.

3. Our business rate in Australia is higher then America's

This is gibeerish. You could only show 80 business for a community of 10,000 people, where a community of 20,000 people in Columbus, Ohio created 1,000 businesses. You can't even compare yourself to people who have excelled in their business savviness.

4. Our houses are way bigger and land plots.

This guy has never seen houses built in American suburbs. This is laughable.

5. Australia isn't segregated like America

It is a country of 340 million people, and while it has its own racial issues, it doesn't lock people asylum seekers and refugees in islands in the Pacific.

6. We have a continent the size of america for only 25 million people

This continent size America defends that toothless country of yours (Australia). It also allows new Somali comers to participate in politics, and Somalis are serving in all walks of the American govt including federal, state, and city offices - something that the Aussies have yet to afford it to you.

7. The rate of home ownership in Australia is way higher then American diaspora

Nonsense. The people (Somalis in Australia) whose median income ($378 per week) is lower than the national poverty line ($423 q week) can't be home buyers. In Murica, the amount of Somali home ownership is endless. They mostly pay cash and pay the house off or put down a huge deposit that makes their payment less. Somali home buyers are found throughout the US. This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

8. We enjoy a social safety system, u will cry when me and @Periplus @Nilotic are sitting in Somalia in our senior years and retired enjoying our supperannuation(mandatory 401k) for all industries and even if we finish that we still enjoy an 'age pension' while your ass is running around broke with no 401k, no age pension, and your spending thousanads just in meds.

There is a social safety net, but America is not welfare state. And while the social safety net provides you the bare minimum, you're encouraged to work hard, safe money, and contribute to your retirement and healthcare plans. In the American mantra, the govt shouldn't be responsible for your wellbeing; you're. Therefore, you should take charge in it.

10. Australia is modern. Our suburbs designed properly with residential zoning, commercial zoning, industrial zoning all separate. We have beautiful parks and ovals in every suburb by mandatory law of 'public open spaces'. We enjoy regular bbqs at parks and beaches here all public facilities.

This guy has never seen Orange county, CA; Fairfax county, VA; Upper Arlington, Ohio; and many other beautiful towns, suburbs, and cities in America.

11. Only reer europe have better trains n buses then us, every american who comes in adores our transportation only reer europe look down on it. So i give that to reer europe cuz i seen how wicked the TUBE is in london and their buses. But u also need to equate london is a very small area city 1,572 km². Sydney has the huge suburbia stretching it out to 12,368 km². So it's basically 12 times the area size of London, so as u can imagine travel distances are longer. But london is larger population then sydney. About twice as large in ppl, we only 5 million

Bigger cities in America have the best train systems in the world, and the US govt recently passed 2 trillion USD to rebuild infrastructure.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg U were told many times by @Periplus Somalis do not provide accurate information to census and hardly any are even registered to vote as they don't participate in the politics. Even with this lack of participation politically, we had 1 mp run for the conservatives in brisbane and 1 mp is currently running for labor in melbourne.

Maybe @Periplus knows her name, I saw her on Somali cable TV not to long ago.

So you raising the same point refuted shows your losing the debate not us. U haven't responded adequately to our charges on America.

1. Top 10 cities in the world Australia enjoys 4 cities while melbourne ranked no 1 for 10 years str8 and only lost that due to freedom index over covid. Every major city in Australia is in the top 20. Now why is it none of your cities even crack the top 50 if it's so good according to you?

2. Why is your over-all HDI lower then Australia. Your ranked 17, Australia is 8. So any Somali diaspora vs American diaspora our kids have a higher HDI then u, not just slightly, but by a huge margin.

3. Crime rates u acknowledged you have a high crime rate in America over-all and extremely high for Somali population. U haven't been to Australia, a bunch of school kids isn't a gang like what u have in america like ms13, crips, bloods, white supremacist, etc. That's gangs that r organized crime.

Just surrender brother u r making yourself look stupid, this country enjoys a far better lifestyle then America. What are your work conditions waryaa? Aussies have mandatory 4 weeks holiday pay, mandatory 10% private company funded retirement, 2 weeks public holiday pay, 2 weeks minimum sick day allowance. That's a whopping 2 month of no work yet we are paid. 3 months long service leave after 10 year service in a job.

This will crush your soul. When we retire, we have our 401k and if it ever runs out, we access the universal age pension, all our surgeries-specialists-doctors-meds is universally free or small out of pocket expense for meds but not the outrageous pricing of your america. U will die earlier then the average aussie also. Me and @Periplus are covered in our twilight years not needing to worry while your ass isn't covered loooooooool

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg it's funny how u fudge the Somali number, your own site said there is only 8k nation wide, and melbourne has 4k. I showed u 80 businesses not for all melbourne but one section 'heilderbeg' all aussies are stunned if u think there is only 80 businesses for all melbourne. Because footscray has another 120 businesses. It's close to 200 businesses for 4000 Somalis.

Stop fudging Somali aussie figures to 10k when it's only 7.8k. When u looking at melbourne it's only 4k population. Show me columbus has as many businesses for 4000 people, as u claimed 30k live there, for 30,000 ppl only 1000 business yet u criticize 200 businesses for 4000 people.

If I multiply melbourne population to 30,000 with 200 businesses for 4000. That's 1600 busnesses if melbourne has 30,000 population. Multiply 200 business x 8. Becuz 4000 x 8=32,000 population. But I forgot you have a lower HDI then us so you probably don't know statistics equations.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg Reer Australia gave your American ass a huge karbash, a brutal knockout, just as we punch beyond our weight, pound for pound we are the best diaspora, i do recognize your the loudest diaspora merely due to your INFLATED SIZE but not pound for pound metrics, this is where your diaspora loses.

 

[Man with a garuun]

@Roorigeg U were told many times by @Periplus Somalis do not provide accurate information to census and hardly any are even registered to vote as they don't participate in the politics. Even with this lack of participation politically, we had 1 mp run for the conservatives in brisbane and 1 mp is currently running for labor in melbourne.

Ok if that is the case, why did the Australian govt stop accepting Somali refugees while it allowed refugees and family sponsorship for Ethiopians ans Eritreans? It is all because of the dismal performance of Somali community there.

"A Department of Home Affairs spokesperson told SBS News that "Australia's refugee and humanitarian program is non-discriminatory and has the flexibility to respond to emerging humanitarian situations".

"No nationality is excluded from consideration, but the Australian Government does establish priorities each program year based on a range of inputs including NGO and community views put forward through the annual program consultations," he said."

You're bragging about Australia's social safety net when they don't even allow you to sponsor your refugee relatives there. And when a Somali refugee comes to their shore, they arrested him in an island in the Pacific that is not even part of Australia. That is cruel and racist. But they are basing that on the higher crime rates and big-mouthed welfare queens in Australia. You guys collect welfare, join gangs, rob people, and then have a big mouth to talk and complain.

I guess the Australians who were robbed and terrorized by our (Somali) bums had finally their govt listened to them. No Somali can resettle in Australia now. They said enough of these people.

I'm done with this topic since what I'm revealing on the Somalis in Australia is too damaging and devastating to the Somali community there.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waryaa look at this wonderful fact. @Roorigeg

SMEs in the national economy. According to the Bureau of Statistics (ABS), there were 2 309 436 small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs) in Australia in 2018, accounting for 99.8% of all businesses.

That's a proper free market that me and @Periplus @Nilotic promote. Where-as your corporations account for 99% of your businesses, everyone knows u don't have a vibrant small business sector, everywhere u go in america, it's all chain stores everywhere. This isn't the same in Australia, every shop or business is dominated by the little man, again proving that this is a free market not America where u have an ogligarch monopoly big businesses who swallow up or destroy small businesses.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg u clearly have not been to Australia. There is no Somali in gangs. Australia think school boys hanging out with each other is 'ethnic gangs' they have no idea of what 'gangs' mean untill u visit America.

Here is the crime statistic waryaa. Somalis are below 1%

Are Sudanese people over-represented among Victorian offenders?

A fight involving dozens of young Sudanese-Australian people in Melbourne has led to renewed debate about crime and policing. What can we learn from the latest crime statistics?

www.abc.net.au

Our population is 0.07% of victoria yet our criminals are 0.25%. We are commiting crimes 3 times our population which is a concern, but what type of crimes? none of that shocking crimes u see in america like grooming gangs. The other thing is as u know sudanese/somali have 'young population' that is higher then australian rates, most are under 20's so that can also explain why our youth statistics r higher becuz it's 3 times more youth in our population then the overall australian population.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg I am transparent about australian somali crime rates. We represent 0.07% of melbourne population yet we are 0.25% of crimes. 0.07 x 3=0.21%. So I rounded it of for you, we have 3 times more crimes our population warrants. Then it's about wat type of crime? it's low level crime such as non-violent burglary, aggravated robbery(knife stick ups on ppl). But wat we need to discuss is how high our 'youth rates' are in comparison to the average population.

If our youth rate is 3 times or more the size of Australian youth rates, then we break even and represent the same rate of crime as other aussies. However I suspect our youth rates are 10 times higher then australian population and this means we are 10 times under-represented in crime if aussie youth had the same quota of youth.

Do I need to discuss American Somali crime rates? maybe you know they're is no point because u know how embarassing your statistics are, it makes us look like non-existent problem.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg This is Somali census bracket of youth

The age distribution showed 4.4 per cent were aged 0-14 years, 15.9 per cent were 15-24 years, 51.8 per cent were 25-44 years, 24.1 per cent were 45-64 years and 3.7 per cent were 65 years and over.

The segment we need to worry about is the 15-24 bracket, as these are the ones commiting the crime. As we can see they represent 16% of our population.

The 2016 Census of Population and Housing (Census) counted 2,988,390 Australian residents aged 15 to 24, representing about one in eight (12.8 per cent) of all Australian residents.

See waryaa, 12.8% is 15-24 in the Australian population. Yet Somali rate is 16%. This can explain why our youth crime is higher since aussies have a lower youth population segment in comparison to Somali youth population. There is 28% increase of youth in Somali youth population. So that can explain why we are 3 times over represented in youth category of crimes, since our population of youth is 4 times higher, so it breaks back down to acceptable rate. Infact we are committing 'less' crimes by 7% if we take into consideration all these data.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Periplus the melbourne freshies need to move to the newer nice towers and stop congregating in one area, this is what is causing crime rates. See australia is mixing up private and social so we can end these low income towers.


U can't join this discussion you american ghetto rat @Roorigeg. In my town they knocked down the all 1960's social housing towers, it was following the horrendous american model to put low income ppl into one area. My town has knocked it all down and put people into new towers with a mix of private high income and low income people. Infact 20% of all new towers has to be designated social

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Roorigeg come to Australia and visit and u will see we are mix of america and uk. We balance the two out and can serve as a medium for the Somali diaspora.

We have a thriving private market that is small to medium, we intentionally do not allow corporations here to safeguard our small to medium business. We have a social safety net, it's not 'raaxo' as u said but it also ensures no-one is living like an American dog looooool. Our wages are the highest in the OECD market. Our work conditions promote work/life balance meaning we get mandatory 4 week holidays, 2 week sick allowances, 2 week public holiday through out the year all paid for. We only work 10 month a year technically speaking if u look at all the conditions in place.

We have the big down-town and suburbia thing in all our cities, but we do it better as each suburb is zoned as residential and has a nice strip mall, public school, oval or park as green space, it's all spotless our cities in comparison to America. So most people stay in their areas not needing to go to far for shopping. We got massive shopping malls everywhere also. The weather is brilliant and closest thing to africa, it's the best weather in the western world, plus our beaches are gorgeous, think Hawaii everywhere.

Our roads are safe also as their is speed cameras everywhere either fixed on traffic lights or speeding camera vans everywhere. The school system is also brilliant even public schools are very well funded and standard education is of a high quality. We love our BBQS and outdoor activities(camping, hiking, four wheel driving in remote areas). We even got our own special 'miami florida' called GOLD COAST looooooooooool where all our theme parks are.

We as aussies don't agree with you on what defines a private market, we define it as small to medium businesses thriving not corporations and select few. So our economic philosophy isn't the same. We want our wealth spread out so it reaches everyone not just some 'board of directors n shareholders' loooooooooool.

We will design Somalia economy in the same fashion and limit corporations. Ask @Periplus all our stores are owned 'solo' and is independent, u will rarely find corporations here besides mcdonalds-kfc-domino-cost-co-woolworth-coles-aldi, the rest truly is small-to-medium ownership. Plus we are known as the coffee capital of the world, u haven't had a coffee yet untill u try australian, they put so much effort and innovation into it. Starbucks couldn't operate here and left. The little man won in australia.