Athiests, secularists, and Agnostics..

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Religiously yes

yes...i'm keen to know about those who don't identify as muslim and their stance on it. Ferari said that atheists still have morals..which I believe they do but wanted to know if having sex outside of marriage was considered by some of these same atheists immoral and why?
 
yes...i'm keen to know about those who don't identify as muslim and their stance on it. Ferari said that atheists still have morals..which I believe they do but wanted to know if having sex outside of marriage was considered by some of these same atheists immoral and why?

No because I think atheist tie immorality to character
 
True...but does that mean having sex outside of marriage makes you immoral?
That depends. Is the person Muslim? If so yes it does make him/her immoral because sex outside of marriage isn't allowed for them and they know it.
Also it depends on whether you are committed to someone at that point of your life. If you think sex outside of marriage is ok, then you probably wouldn't consider it immoral would you? It depends on who you ask. If you asked me, the answer is an emphatic yes.
 

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A lot of non believers have still have morals unless you are a liberal. I have heard crazy stories, one of them was a guy whose kids was fathered by his own brother lol.
it happens.
I think that's a common theme. It's usually someone close. The guy's brother. The guy's friend. The girl's girlfriend or sister.

You think conservatives are less prone to cheating than liberals?

Oh my sweet summer child.

I live in conservative country and idk maybe im biased by environment but they're a special breed. Born again Christians do shit like 'soak and bake'
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I think that's a common theme. It's usually someone close. The guy's brother. The guy's friend. The girl's girlfriend or sister.

You think conservatives are less prone to cheating than liberals?

Oh my sweet summer child.

I live in conservative country and idk maybe im biased by environment but they're a special breed. Born again Christians do shit like 'soak and bake'
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Soak and bake what's the point ? I think Muslims have their own version of that called
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I think that's a common theme. It's usually someone close. The guy's brother. The guy's friend. The girl's girlfriend or sister.

You think conservatives are less prone to cheating than liberals?

Oh my sweet summer child.

I live in conservative country and idk maybe im biased by environment but they're a special breed. Born again Christians do shit like 'soak and bake'
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Soak and bake?? Cadaan religious folks are just absurd. I'm taking the liberty of assuming they're white.
 
I think that's a common theme. It's usually someone close. The guy's brother. The guy's friend. The girl's girlfriend or sister.

You think conservatives are less prone to cheating than liberals?

Oh my sweet summer child.

I live in conservative country and idk maybe im biased by environment but they're a special breed. Born again Christians do shit like 'soak and bake'
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Yes, generally speaking liberals are more likely to not only accept such acts but engage in it as well especially when it comes to Muslims. Lol at soaking and baking. I don't take Christians serious, they have changed their religion a gazillion times to accommodate their way of living.
 
That depends. Is the person Muslim? If so yes it does make him/her immoral because sex outside of marriage isn't allowed for them and they know it.
Also it depends on whether you are committed to someone at that point of your life. If you think sex outside of marriage is ok, then you probably wouldn't consider it immoral would you? It depends on who you ask. If you asked me, the answer is an emphatic yes.

So it's a yes because you're muslim and it's against your religion or are you an atheist and it's still immoral?
 

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Soak and bake what's the point ? I think Muslims have their own version of that called
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Yups. That's true with Christians and other abstinence religions

Anal and oral.

When I first found out about soaking and baking at 15, I laughed and giggled for an hour straight. I thought it was the most hilarious thing. It could be that it's more erotic lol
Soak and bake?? Cadaan religious folks are just absurd. I'm taking the liberty of assuming they're white.
Yes :mjlol:
 
I am a Muslim and it's a no for me. Why wouldn't I have sex outside of marriage if I was an atheist? I would have nothing holding me back.

Can I ask a question? What is the reasoning behind the no sex before marriage in Islam? I really haven't been able to figure it out.
I'm not trying to be offensive but wouldn't God care more about other issues outside of two people making love to each other? Atleast they're not killing each other, back biting, stealing from one another etc....out of a million horrible things a person can do...I can't imagine sex being one.
 
Can I ask a question? What is the reasoning behind the no sex before marriage in Islam? I really haven't been able to figure it out.
I'm not trying to be offensive but wouldn't God care more about other issues outside of two people making love to each other? Atleast they're not killing each other, back biting, stealing from one another etc....out of a million horrible things a person can do...I can't imagine sex being one.

Abaayo baby mammas is the number reason why it's against the religion... just look at that subculture and all the confusion it brings. STDs being another reason, illegitimate children etc.
 
Abaayo baby mammas is the number reason why it's against the religion... just look at that subculture and all the confusion it brings. STDs being another reason, illegitimate children etc.

Thanks for answering...

about the baby mama's...there are lots of Somali parents who are divorced and the child is raised by a single parent? So is the act of a child being raised by one parent what is immoral about sex...in that case then wouldn't divorce be a sin?

STDs is interesting..it is an infection that one can get when having sex ...but you can get stds from your husband...or pass it on to him while you are married..example...having a cold sore and giving head to your husband ...you can give him herpes.

Plus you can pass on a bacterial infection kissing your partner while you are married...so is passing on the infection what is immoral?
 
Thanks for answering...

about the baby mama's...there are lots of Somali parents who are divorced and the child is raised by a single parent? So is the act of a child being raised by one parent what is immoral about sex...in that case then wouldn't divorce be a sin?

STDs is interesting..it is an infection that one can get when having sex ...but you can get stds from your husband...or pass it on to him while you are married..example...having a cold sore and giving head to your husband ...you can give him herpes.

Plus you can pass on a bacterial infection kissing your partner while you are married...so is passing on the infection what is immoral?

No it's immoral because passing an infection would be greater versus being married and getting one as for baby mammas you have a better chance raising a kid in a two parent household versus getting pregnant by a dude you meant 6 months ago and hasn't committed to staying with you forever. Yea people get divorced but thats another case. Baby mammas is a 98% failure!

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Can I ask a question? What is the reasoning behind the no sex before marriage in Islam? I really haven't been able to figure it out.
I'm not trying to be offensive but wouldn't God care more about other issues outside of two people making love to each other? Atleast they're not killing each other, back biting, stealing from one another etc....out of a million horrible things a person can do...I can't imagine sex being one.
It's indecent and irresponsible. We answer to God, we submit to him. He knows it all, and when he tells us to stay away from something, it's for a good reason. Why do you think somalia's HIV rate is almost negligble compared to its two christian neighbors? The reasons are many to count, disease, children being born out of wedlock(usually are not brought up properly), etc.

Do you believe in Allah?
 
Thanks for answering...

about the baby mama's...there are lots of Somali parents who are divorced and the child is raised by a single parent? So is the act of a child being raised by one parent what is immoral about sex...in that case then wouldn't divorce be a sin?

STDs is interesting..it is an infection that one can get when having sex ...but you can get stds from your husband...or pass it on to him while you are married..example...having a cold sore and giving head to your husband ...you can give him herpes.

Plus you can pass on a bacterial infection kissing your partner while you are married...so is passing on the infection what is immoral?
why should you have herpes to start with? STDs are caught because a person sleeps around with many people, hence why the risk is higher. It's unlikely that a wife or a husband will all the sudden have an STD to pass on if they have been with the same person. It sounds like you are burying your head in the sand on this one.

while we are at it, did you know studies show that for women, they more sexual partners they have had, the higher their chances of a divorce?
 
why should you have herpes to start with? STDs are caught because a person sleeps around with many people, hence why the risk is higher. It's unlikely that a wife or a husband will all the sudden have an STD to pass on if they have been with the same person. It sounds like you are burying your head in the sand on this one.

while we are at it, did you know studies show that for women, they more sexual partners they have had, the higher their chances of a divorce?

No there a herpes virus that you can recieve without sexual contact.. I read somewhere that 90 something adults were born with it. Also the case can be said for males as well. Guys who go through a lot of women tend to never be satisfied. As for the case...the lack of attachment can cause higher promiscuity, supposedly the more partners the higher the insensitiveness.
 
The women whether she worships Satan or not don't generally care that much unless you repeatedly rub it in her face

The man do care regardless of their beliefs, it's just that the Satan worshippers don't have a choice since all their women lost their virginity at School

Hence they are forced into compromise, I have a colleague I work with who is happy because only 3 men slept with his GF prior to him, and she comes from a very conservative Christian background, she is only 19

The same painful reality is already happening to Muslims in the diaspora, hence many males marrying from back home, no one wants to hold a bucket
 
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