Argument between Somali Americans, Indian Muslim Americans and Arab Muslim Americans

Factory slaughtered chicken is debated whether it’s xalal to consume or not. Since we live in a country where there are no animals running around which you can slaughter yourself the Islamic way, sometimes we depend on factory slaughtered animals for hilib.
My mother and father always go to this one specific farm/ slaughter house full of sheeps, goats, and cows and chickens but ofc it run by white group in countryside but when it comes to slaughtering they give their customers the right to kill their animal as long as they are paying for it. This is good because before they get to slaughter the meat my dad faces the animal towards the prayer direction in Islamic rule and say they Bismillah. Gl the meat be tasting ways fresh and smooth alx.
 

Qeelbax

East Africa UNUKA LEH
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yes but for it to be halal you cannot electrocute it causing it death. but thats what they do in america, so according to the shafici madhab it is haram
Chick Fil A is a Christian company, they slaughter their chicken the halal way
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in America most don’t electrecute to death, that’s not true. They stun them prior.
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Say yeah yeah yeah say good good good
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you do realise imams give wrong fatawaa all the time. I personally have had all difernet imams give me different opinions on stuff, some even saying riba is allowed in some scenerios

anyway, if you do research on this,you will realise most of the meat you eat is haram, plus the animals you eat are factory farmed and abused, when they are killed it is not instantaneous or even in a Islamic way, for meat to be halal the jugular vein must be cut and blood drained from the animal instantaneously thats not how americans kill thier meat, also the machines are run by kuffar so it is also haram from that standpoint, the majority opinion is the name of Allah must be pronounced over it, and multiple shaficis I know take that opinion, in fact it is makroooh not to do tasmiyah over the meat even if you take the opinion it isn't obligatory


I can't see in anyway how your meat is halal, I have studied this subject alot and the meat you guys eat is clearly haram, I though it was a joke u guys ate haram meat.

also your imams and sheikhs idk them but alot of them have no idea how the meat is slaughtered or been to a slaughter house or even knwo the condition of the americans
 

Qeelbax

East Africa UNUKA LEH
VIP

[1] The Shafi`is stipulate that the Christian whose slaughtered meat is permissible to eat is someone who has an uninterrupted Christian lineage all the way back to pre-Islamic times. If the Christian is of non-Israelite descent, then this needs to be positively established (virtually impossible in our times). If the Christian is of Israelite descent, then the conditions are less stringent.
Why you quoting me with this
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in America most don’t electrecute to death, that’s not true. They stun them prior.
the stunning causes death alot of the time and they dont care because it isnt run by a halal organisation, i it dies due to stunning it will end up on your plate, plus, do you know how they are killed and slaughtered?
 
bro. youll see western imams saying student loans and mortgages are halal.
most of my imams say that, most of my friends take the studnet loan although some o my friends believe it is haram but still take it because they want the easier opinion.
I believe its haram and save up money or university, its possible to do, the only reason the imams I asked give is because the loan is actually riba but because u need it to get a degree it is daroora issue, but i disagree because u can work during the degree or before and take a gap year and save up enough money to pay it up, there are many people who have done it
 

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Translation: "Al-Shafi'i said: Al-Thaqafi informed us, from Ayyub, from Ibn Sirin, from 'Ubaidah, from Ali - may Allah be pleased with him - that he said, 'Do not eat the slaughtered [meat] of the Christians of the Banu Taghlib tribe, for they have not held strongly to their religion except by drinking alcohol.'"

@GaradShabeel @Qeelbax
 
Translation: "Al-Shafi'i said: Al-Thaqafi informed us, from Ayyub, from Ibn Sirin, from 'Ubaidah, from Ali - may Allah be pleased with him - that he said, 'Do not eat the slaughtered [meat] of the Christians of the Banu Taghlib tribe, for they have not held strongly to their religion except by drinking alcohol.'"

@GaradShabeel @Qeelbax
i have heard this athar before, but it is actually worse, some christians do not even believe in god the bible hell or heaven, they are christian by name, they dont even use christianity in any place in their lives, even in drinking alchohol,the act is most "christians" are atheists.
 
LOL this is so accurate, at least in canada. Most Somalis don’t eat only halal meat here.

I remember ordering mcchicken from mcd’s in high school and my desi Muslim friends would look so scandalized. Meanwhile they didn’t even pray lmfao.

I’m trying to do better with eating halal though.
 
I grew up eating it, still do. I've never really bothered with looking into whether or not I should. If it's not pork, we good.
Meat is only halal if it's cut by the ahlul-kitab so no you're not good. Best to only get it from halal shops
 

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So if I understand it, instead of not eating kosher meat, you guys are eating meat made by Americans?

y’all must have strong stomachs because I could never
 

Gacmeey

Madaxweynaha Qurbo Joogta 🇸🇴
People saying meat in America is slaughtered by Christians or you don’t have to say bismillah is cope because they aren’t the only conditions. Most western meats that are produced by companies don't care about halal/kosher standards are the equivalent of roadkill. I mean sometimes they don't even cut the arteries in the throat so that they can keep the blood in the meat so that it has more flavor not to mention the fact that some slaughterhouses slaughter pigs and cattle/lamb in the same place with the same equipment.
 

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