Are you muslim?

Are you muslim?

  • yes

    Votes: 62 83.8%
  • no

    Votes: 12 16.2%

  • Total voters
    74
Also for those saying you can't be a non Muslim and Somali at the same time, although I somewhat understand, the same argument can be made by saying you can't be Salafi and Somali at the same time. Salafism/Wahhabism didn't exist amongst Somalis except in very recent history i.e last 50 years. A true Somali in the past was Ash'ari Shafi'i and Sufi. Wahhabism is foreign to Somalis.
I view the statement that you canโ€™t be a non-Muslim and a Somali at the same time as likely a form of bidโ€™ah. Somali is just an ethnicity, where in the Quran and Hadith does it say such a thing? It is a dangerous innovation by people that likely mean well but are unintentionally bringing faith down to the same level as ethnicity. Not good.
 
If they're non Somali what does that say about your ancestors beliefs before the creation of Islam?
You're basically saying they weren't Somali.

and when was Islam created there buddy?

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Also for those saying you can't be a non Muslim and Somali at the same time, although I somewhat understand, the same argument can be made by saying you can't be Salafi and Somali at the same time. Salafism/Wahhabism didn't exist amongst Somalis except in very recent history i.e last 50 years. A true Somali in the past was Ash'ari Shafi'i and Sufi. Wahhabism is foreign to Somalis.
to even suggest the average geeljire somali had even a modicum of understanding regarding aqeeda is apocryphal๐Ÿ˜‚ the default layman position regarding the location of Allah is above, and there are somali proverbs mentioning Allah being above cirka. very few ashaaira existed amongst us
 
The verses in Surah Tuur really opened my heart and eyes to the truth when I was confused. What is disbelief in God? How can you not believe in a creator. Did this world come from nothing? The perfect sky, the altering of day and night, the sun, the moon, the stars, the land we walk on and the oceans. The wind, the rain, the vegetation and fruits. The creation of so many different creatures and the creation of man himself? Disbelief in God is not a firm belief but rather a doubtful phase that if God wills, will lead to a person to question and realize the true purpose of his existence and the reason for this beautiful creation he sees around him. All answers will lead back to of course there must be a creator, and then you will say ok if there is a creator then how can I learn more about him and what is the true religion. After studying different religions you will come to the realization 100% that Islam is the true final monotheistic religion sent by God for mankind.

Surah Tuur
33. Or do they say: "He (Muhammad
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) has forged it (this Qur'an)?" Nay! They believe not!
34. Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'an) if they are truthful.

35. Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
36. Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.
 
Look at how weak man is despite all our technological advancement, God is telling us we canโ€™t even create something as small as a fly or even take back what a fly takes

ูŠูŽุฃูŽูŠู‘ูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ู†ู‘ูŽุงุณู ุถูุฑูุจูŽ ู…ูŽุซูŽู„ู ููŽุงุณู’ุชูŽู…ูุนููˆุง ู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŒ ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุงู„ู‘ูŽุฐููŠู†ูŽ ุชูŽุฏู’ุนููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูู† ุฏููˆู†ู ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ู„ูŽู† ูŠูŽุฎู’ู„ูู‚ููˆุงู’ ุฐูุจูŽุงุจู‹ุง ูˆูŽู„ูŽูˆู ุงุฌู’ุชูŽู…ูŽุนููˆุงู’ ู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽุฅูู† ูŠูŽุณู’ู„ูุจู’ู‡ูู…ู ุงู„ุฐู‘ูุจูŽุงุจู ุดูŽูŠู’ุฆู‹ุง ู„ูŽุง ูŠูŽุณู’ุชูŽู†ู‚ูุฐููˆู‡ู ู…ูู†ู’ู‡ู ุถูŽุนูููŽ ุงู„ุทู‘ูŽุงู„ูุจู ูˆูŽุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุทู’ู„ููˆุจู

O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allรคh, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought.(Surah Hajj-verse 73)


And look at this verse talking about how we are able to get fresh pure milk. Small things but makes you think and realize that this isnโ€™t all possible without a creator


ูˆูŽุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ู„ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ูููŠ ุงู„ู’ุฃูŽู†ู’ุนูŽู…ู ู„ูŽุนูุจู’ุฑูŽุฉูŽ ู†ูุณู’ู‚ููŠูƒูู… ู…ูู…ู‘ูŽุง ูููŠ ุจูุทููˆู†ูู‡ู ู…ูู†ู’ ุจูŽูŠู’ู†ู ููŽุฑู’ุซู ูˆูŽุฏูŽู…ู ู„ูŽุจูŽู†ู‘ูŽุง ุฎูŽุงู„ูุตู‹ุง ุณูŽุขุฆูุบู‹ุง ู„ูู„ุดู‘ูŽุฑูุจููŠู†ูŽ (

And verily! In the cattle, there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of that which is in their bellies, from between excretions and blood, pure milk; palatable to the drinkers.(Surah Alnahl-verse 66)
 
Been keeping up with my salah for the past 6 months. I would like to get better :rejoice:. Im deeply afraid of judgement day . I'm not built for any temperature above 78:tacky: so this is why I pray. I heard lava is like cold compared to hell fire and it poured on your heard. So a simple 5 minute salah is doable for me :ahh:
 
and when was Islam created there buddy?

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I probably should have used the word "arrival" instead of created.
None the less - My point still stands.
& ur digging urself in a hole at this point.

The general consensus being Islam has been apart of the horn since the 7th century.
What about your ancestors from the 6th century? Or the century 3 times removed from that?

Point being - none of our cultural origin stories began with the arrival of the Abrahamic faiths.
Once upon a time u held indigenous beliefs.

Not trying to offend just pointing out a concrete fact.
 
Ignore anyone that says non Muslim Somalis aren't Somali. I will always put a non Muslim Somali first before those hypocritical so called muslims. As long as youโ€™re a proud Somali who will defend our heritage you will always be welcomed.

A somali gaal is still a Somali linage wise. Laakin you putting them first and feeling closer to them and feeling more love for them than a Muslim from another nationality? That isnโ€™t what Islam teaches and goes against the basic principles of loving and hating for the sake of Allah, loving and befriending those who uphold faith, and hating and opposing those who do not uphold it, even if they are your closest people. A Muslim convert Israeli or amxaaro is more of your brother/sister than a Somali gaal. Donโ€™t fall for all this rhetoric of muh ummah hate.

ู„ูŽุง ุชูŽุฌูุฏู ู‚ูŽูˆู’ู…ูŽุง ูŠูุคู’ู…ูู†ููˆู†ูŽ ุจููฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽูฑู„ู’ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฃูŽุฎูุฑู ูŠููˆูŽุงุฏู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุญูŽุขุฏูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽู„ูŽูˆู’ ูƒูŽุงู†ููˆุงู’ ุกูŽุงุจูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฃูŽุจู’ู†ูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฅูุฎู’ูˆูŽู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุนูŽุดููŠุฑูŽุชูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽูฐุจููƒูŽ ูƒูŽุชูŽุจูŽ ูููŠ ู‚ูู„ููˆุจูู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฅููŠู…ูŽู†ูŽ ูˆูŽุฃูŽูŠู‘ูŽุฏูŽู‡ูู… ุจูุฑููˆุญู ู…ูู†ู’ุฉูŒ ูˆูŽูŠูุฏู’ุฎูู„ู‡ูู…ู’ ุฌูŽู†ู‘ูŽูฐุชู ุชูŽุฌู’ุฑูู‰ ู…ูู† ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ู’ุฃูŽู†ู’ู‡ูŽุฑู ุฎูŽูฐู„ูุฏููŠู†ูŽ ูููŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุฑูŽุถูู‰ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู’ู‡ูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุถููˆุงู’ ุนูŽู†ู’ุฉู ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽุจููƒูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจู ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุฃูŽู„ูŽุง ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ู…ููู’ู„ูุญููˆู†ูŽ


You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit(11 from Him. And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally. Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him - those are the party of Allah. Unquestionably, the party of Allah - they are the successful.(Mujadilah- Verse 22)


All ex-Muslims on this site can have a fit on here. But know a Muslim

Allah's Messenger (๏ทบ) said, "A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection . "
 

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A somali gaal is still a Somali linage wise. Laakin you putting them first and feeling closer to them and feeling more love for them than a Muslim from another nationality? That isnโ€™t what Islam teaches and goes against the basic principles of loving and hating for the sake of Allah, loving and befriending those who uphold faith, and hating and opposing those who do not uphold it, even if they are your closest people. A Muslim convert Israeli or amxaaro is more of your brother/sister than a Somali gaal. Donโ€™t fall for all this rhetoric of muh ummah hate.

ู„ูŽุง ุชูŽุฌูุฏู ู‚ูŽูˆู’ู…ูŽุง ูŠูุคู’ู…ูู†ููˆู†ูŽ ุจููฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽูฑู„ู’ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฃูŽุฎูุฑู ูŠููˆูŽุงุฏู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุญูŽุขุฏูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽู„ูŽูˆู’ ูƒูŽุงู†ููˆุงู’ ุกูŽุงุจูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฃูŽุจู’ู†ูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฅูุฎู’ูˆูŽู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุนูŽุดููŠุฑูŽุชูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽูฐุจููƒูŽ ูƒูŽุชูŽุจูŽ ูููŠ ู‚ูู„ููˆุจูู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฅููŠู…ูŽู†ูŽ ูˆูŽุฃูŽูŠู‘ูŽุฏูŽู‡ูู… ุจูุฑููˆุญู ู…ูู†ู’ุฉูŒ ูˆูŽูŠูุฏู’ุฎูู„ู‡ูู…ู’ ุฌูŽู†ู‘ูŽูฐุชู ุชูŽุฌู’ุฑูู‰ ู…ูู† ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ู’ุฃูŽู†ู’ู‡ูŽุฑู ุฎูŽูฐู„ูุฏููŠู†ูŽ ูููŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุฑูŽุถูู‰ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู’ู‡ูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุถููˆุงู’ ุนูŽู†ู’ุฉู ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽุจููƒูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจู ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุฃูŽู„ูŽุง ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ู…ููู’ู„ูุญููˆู†ูŽ


You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit(11 from Him. And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally. Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him - those are the party of Allah. Unquestionably, the party of Allah - they are the successful.(Mujadilah- Verse 22)


All ex-Muslims on this site can have a fit on here. But know a Muslim

Allah's Messenger (๏ทบ) said, "A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection . "
Foreign convert is closer to me than a somali gaal kulaha. Nacala carab cabuud, not even Arabs treat their Christian population like this :russ:
 

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Islam is easy and is for your benefit, believe and establish the prayer a few minutes 5 times a day and three of them are at low movement times , give zakat (it can go to extended family and itโ€™s only 2.5percent of assets you held all year), fast during Ramadan, and hajj if youโ€™re able to

do these and youโ€™ll succeed inshallah
Also to clarify, for zakat on money or assets thereโ€™s a nisaab, a minimum amount of wealth that the 2.5% is calculated from and itโ€™s a specific type of asset like jewelry, merchandise etc so not the car you use to go to work with or house you live in or clothing you wear
 

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A somali gaal is still a Somali linage wise. Laakin you putting them first and feeling closer to them and feeling more love for them than a Muslim from another nationality? That isnโ€™t what Islam teaches and goes against the basic principles of loving and hating for the sake of Allah, loving and befriending those who uphold faith, and hating and opposing those who do not uphold it, even if they are your closest people. A Muslim convert Israeli or amxaaro is more of your brother/sister than a Somali gaal. Donโ€™t fall for all this rhetoric of muh ummah hate.

ู„ูŽุง ุชูŽุฌูุฏู ู‚ูŽูˆู’ู…ูŽุง ูŠูุคู’ู…ูู†ููˆู†ูŽ ุจููฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽูฑู„ู’ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฃูŽุฎูุฑู ูŠููˆูŽุงุฏู‘ููˆู†ูŽ ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุญูŽุขุฏูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูŽ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽู„ูŽูˆู’ ูƒูŽุงู†ููˆุงู’ ุกูŽุงุจูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฃูŽุจู’ู†ูŽุขุกูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฅูุฎู’ูˆูŽู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุนูŽุดููŠุฑูŽุชูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽูฐุจููƒูŽ ูƒูŽุชูŽุจูŽ ูููŠ ู‚ูู„ููˆุจูู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ุฅููŠู…ูŽู†ูŽ ูˆูŽุฃูŽูŠู‘ูŽุฏูŽู‡ูู… ุจูุฑููˆุญู ู…ูู†ู’ุฉูŒ ูˆูŽูŠูุฏู’ุฎูู„ู‡ูู…ู’ ุฌูŽู†ู‘ูŽูฐุชู ุชูŽุฌู’ุฑูู‰ ู…ูู† ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ู’ุฃูŽู†ู’ู‡ูŽุฑู ุฎูŽูฐู„ูุฏููŠู†ูŽ ูููŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุฑูŽุถูู‰ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู’ู‡ูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฑูŽุถููˆุงู’ ุนูŽู†ู’ุฉู ุฃููˆู’ู„ูŽุจููƒูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจู ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุฃูŽู„ูŽุง ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุญูุฒู’ุจูŽ ูฑู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ู‡ูู…ู ูฑู„ู’ู…ููู’ู„ูุญููˆู†ูŽ


You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day having affection for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with spirit(11 from Him. And We will admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally. Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him - those are the party of Allah. Unquestionably, the party of Allah - they are the successful.(Mujadilah- Verse 22)


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Allah's Messenger (๏ทบ) said, "A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection . "
Re read what i stated I literally said I put first a somali kuffar before a HYPOCRITICAL muslim, those that backctabs Somalis or are racist towards us. When I mean put first is to hear out what they have to say and help them out etc.
 
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