Are you a Somali before you are a Muslim or are you Muslim before you are a Somali?

[Kaafiye]

You have admitted yourself long ago you were extremely furious and wanted to beat up a Somali classmate for simply saying he didnt care about Palestine. You wanted to beat him up infront of the Arabs to get brownie points that never existed. They would laughed together at the cuck behaviour that they just saw. They would have been extremely shocked and confused.

Show me the receipts. Now you've completely changed the story and made it look like I did something which I've never done.

 

[Inactive]

Show me the receipts. Now you've completely changed the story and made it look like I did something which I've never done.

Say wallahi billahi you were not angry since you are Muslim?

You were so angry with him, a fellow Somali you wanted to hurt him or you did hurt him. This incident did happen though

 

[Kaafiye]

Say wallahi billahi you were not angry.

You were angry with him with his statements.

You're full of shit and you know it.

Back when I was in high school, the teacher would sometimes bring up current world events and discuss it with the class. At the time, Israel invaded Gaza and was bombarding the strip of land with thousands of bombs.

Now, most people who are indifferent to world affairs probably weren't even aware this was going on. The same way how they have no opinion about what's going on in Kashmir or Morocco or some other country. But this Somali classmate of mine (and mind you, we were the only two Somalis in the classroom) openly stood up and applauded the assault on Gaza and said he hoped the strip of land would be nuked and flattened. Even the teacher was furious at Bashir for saying this.

That pissed me off. It's one thing to be indifferent about world affairs..... it's another thing to openly celebrate the destruction of a people who've never done anything to you.

This isn't something as simple as debating about fiscal policy or whether the Government should do this or that. This is the open celebration of a destruction of an entire race of people, something not even Israelis are in favor of.

 

[Lucifer]

He went die hard with a vengeance on the poor Somali to protect his Baba never in the history of -dom has one so ferociously protected their daddy waa Waarey

I think this music clip relates perfectly with this post.

Just make it clap

 

[Kaafiye]

He went die hard with a vengeance on the poor Somali to protect his Baba never in the history of -dom has one so ferociously protected their daddy waa Waarey

I think this music clip relates perfectly with this post.

Just make it clap

Somalis and Palestinians have never interacted in any meaningful way in our history. We're too far apart geographically and hence this "Daddy" bullshit doesn't apply, since Somalis and Palis barely know each other.

I dare you to celebrate a genocide in front of others and try telling me what reaction you'd get.

 

[Lucifer]

Somalis and Palestinians have never interacted in any meaningful way in our history. We're too far apart geographically and hence this "Daddy" bullshit doesn't apply, since Somalis and Palis barely know each other.

I dare you to celebrate a genocide in front of others and try telling me what reaction you'd get.

I rest my case damn it

 

[Kaafiye]

I rest my case damn it

What a weirdo....

Go ahead and do it. Walk up to a bunch of people and tell them that you hope the Kurdish people are annihilated at the hands of Arabs. Or tell them that you regret that the Tutsis weren't completely annihilated by the Hutus during the 1994 genocide. Gauge the reaction you'll get from them, and you'll see who's the real weirdo.

 

[ItzDoctorZ]

And I love how you use "Ali from Saudi Arabia" as an example even though less than 2% of Muslims are even from Saudi Arabia.

You could've used Indonesia or Bangladesh as an example, but I see what you did there.

It's really not that deep. When I think of Islam I think of Saudi Arabia. My question wouldn't be any different if I had said Bangladesh or Indonesia.

 

[Jubba_Man]

Listen if my Somali-Atheist cousin came to me for help and if a Emirati-muslim came for help, I know which I would choose. I'm not going to leave my own kin in the dust because of Islaaniimo, during PBUH Muhammad's time all the muslims had non-muslim relatives Muhammad himself had his beloved uncle Abu Taleb. I think neglecting your own because of a choice they made is silly.

My ethnicity has nothing to do with it. I am a Muslim first but care about Somalis first, our people are too divided to talk about ummah atm.

Your Somali atheist cousin is not like other Somalis. How are you not getting this? Other than to your clan, what relation do you have to other Somalis? You don't share a common descent nor a heritage. Arguably not even the same culture. How is say an Isaaq atheist more closer to you than an carab Muslim, someone you share both blood and deen with?

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

Your Somali atheist cousin is not like other Somalis. How are you not getting this? Other than to your clan, what relation do you have to other Somalis? You don't share a common descent nor a heritage. Arguably not even the same culture. How is say an Isaaq atheist more closer to you than an carab Muslim, someone you share both blood and deen with?

Bro on my fathers Somali side, I have Arab ancestry and his family are MJ to the hilt that they haven't left Somalia in over 15 generations.
I share a relation to MJ's who majority of us have Arab blood especially Omar Mahmud. On my mother's side Yemeni culture is very similar to Somali culture and my mother herself has Habar Gidir ancestry which why she is tanned.

In all I feel a closer union with a Somali atheist who we share a culture and country with if not blood over an Arab who I and most PLers only share distant blood, language and culture with.

Many MJ made the decision that Somalia comes first over Carabniimo for those who have close Arab links.

 

[Layth]

Your Somali atheist cousin is not like other Somalis. How are you not getting this? Other than to your clan, what relation do you have to other Somalis? You don't share a common descent nor a heritage. Arguably not even the same culture. How is say an Isaaq atheist more closer to you than an carab Muslim, someone you share both blood and deen with?

Exactly... Dir for example,are more closely related to the Saudi royal family than they are to Caydiid and Siyaad Barre. I think it's time that Somalis acknowledge their heterogeneity, it really would be a huge step forward. We can choose to ignore this fact and pretend that nothing of the sort exists, but we would only be deluding ourselves.

 

[Jubba_Man]

Bro on my fathers Somali side, I have Arab ancestry and his family are MJ to the hilt that they haven't left Somalia in over 15 generations.
I share a relation to MJ's who majority of us have Arab blood especially Omar Mahmud. On my mother's side Yemeni culture is very similar to Somali culture and my mother herself has Habar Gidir ancestry which why she is tanned.

In all I feel a closer union with a Somali atheist who we share a culture and country with if not blood over an Arab who I and most PLers only share distant blood, language and culture with.

Many MJ made the decision that Somalia comes first over Carabniimo for those who have close Arab links.

You are misguided. Even in the Americas, a white Mexican at the end of the day knows their heritage and feels far closer to a Spaniard than they do to a Mestizo Mexican, even if they share a culture, language, and hundreds of years of history. In the Somali dhaqan this is even more relevant, since your abtirsi alone determines your "kind".

How have your attempts at forgoing your heritage to form a stable nation with other groups you share nothing with but only a language and some customs gone for you so far? Has it not resulted in the death and destruction of countless of your people? Perhaps it is time to consider establishing an independent Darod state and forging close ties with your Yemeni kin. Those are your real people. Your attempts at uniting with people who have nothing to do with you has failed for the past 26+ years and will continue to keep failing.

I must say at the very least you are an educated person, which is refreshing. Most of the MJs on here deny Darod even existed and call your abtirsi and heritage "fairytales". You might want to knock some sense into them sxb.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Idk about you but my MJ side has a lot according to my DNA test.

Arabs accept us as Arab, we have historical and DNA evidence to prove we are Arab lets not BS ourself. Somalis may not all have Arab ancestry but Daarod and MJ in particular do.

Speak for yourself. Somalis are on average 3% Semetic and 97% Cushitic. We're not Arab. We don't want to be Arab. We're Somali.

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

Speak for yourself. Somalis are on average 3% Semetic and 97% Cushitic. We're not Arab. We don't want to be Arab. We're Somali.

Revisionism at its best.

MJs or Darods are mullatos at best a mix of Somalis and Arabs. Our skin tone is much lighter than Hawiyes and Isaaqs.

Daarod existed, his grave is still here, there are documentation about him and our heritage.

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

You are misguided. Even in the Americas, a white Mexican at the end of the day knows their heritage and feels far closer to a Spaniard than they do to a Mestizo Mexican, even if they share a culture, language, and hundreds of years of history. In the Somali dhaqan this is even more relevant, since your abtirsi alone determines your "kind".

How have your attempts at forgoing your heritage to form a stable nation with other groups you share nothing with but only a language and some customs gone for you so far? Has it not resulted in the death and destruction of countless of your people? Perhaps it is time to consider establishing an independent Darod state and forging close ties with your Yemeni kin. Those are your real people. Your attempts at uniting with people who have nothing to do with you has failed for the past 26+ years and will continue to keep failing.

I must say at the very least you are an educated person, which is refreshing. Most of the MJs on here deny Darod even existed and call your abtirsi and heritage "fairytales". You might want to knock some sense into them sxb.

Somalia is a nation of different ethnicities, Reer-Xamar, Mixed (Somali-European), Arab and Arab mixed.

We need to stay united until we are prosperous enough to go our seperate ways but to leave during harsh times is ignorant.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Revisionism at its best.

MJs or Darods are mullatos at best a mix of Somalis and Arabs. Our skin tone is much lighter than Hawiyes and Isaaqs.

Daarod existed, his grave is still here, there are documentation about him and our heritage.

Sheikh Darood was a Somali man. MJs are mulattoes kulaha. Nice trolling.

 

[Jubba_Man]

Somalia is a nation of different ethnicities, Reer-Xamar, Mixed (Somali-European), Arab and Arab mixed.

Agreed.

We need to stay united until we are prosperous enough to go our seperate ways but to leave during harsh times is ignorant.

How has that worked for the past 26+ years? Death, poverty, destruction, and chaos. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

Sheikh Darood was a Somali man. MJs are mulattoes kulaha. Nice trolling.

Haye and where exactly do Somalis come from because we look nothing like Madow. The Ethiopians are from Jews, Sudanis from Arabs and Hutu and Tutsi from the former two as well as Islanders. Now where are Somalis from??

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

I inherently believe Somalis either came from a mix of Madow and Amhara or Madow and Arab and kept interbreeding into oblivion. Daarod have had more Arabs interbreeding than most tribes due to its proximity to Yemen et al.

 

[Jubba_Man]

Sheikh Darood was a Somali man. MJs are mulattoes kulaha. Nice trolling.

How is he trolling when this is what most MJs actually believe in the real world? Its you and the other charlatans who are trolling by propagating ideas that the majority of people find extremely controversial and would beat you if you tried telling them their heritage is a "fairytale".