This is probably why women are much better at coalition building and are more socially obedient than men, they have more to worry about as theyâre more vulnerable in general.
While I agree that the guy is Islamophobic and I donât like him at all you canât deny that he isnât lying when talking about women tending to have worse mental health outcomes than men, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/Men are more likely to die by suicide and less likely to engage in help-seeking behaviour. Women have more and stronger social support networks than men, irrespective of marital status. Men have a harder time articulating their emotions and are more likely to suffer from subclinical levels of emotional blindness.
Jordan Peterson is a pop psychologist and has been slammed for his Islamophobic takes. My advice is for him to take care of his mental and physical health rather than dispensing his hackneyed soundbites.
Well didnât he just not say that also he is still a renowned psychologist. Women tend to be more emotionally expressive and undergo greater emotional fluctuations, contrasting with men who tend to internalize their feelings. Suicide is perceived as an act of violence and a response to overwhelming despair, representing a form of self-harm. Despite these considerations, it is notable that 75% of divorces are initiated by women, reflecting their inclination to express and act upon their current emotional states.Men are more likely to die by suicide and less likely to engage in help-seeking behaviour. Women have more and stronger social support networks than men, irrespective of marital status. Men have a harder time articulating their emotions and are more likely to suffer from subclinical levels of emotional blindness.
Jordan Peterson is a pop psychologist and has been slammed for his Islamophobic takes. My advice is for him to take care of his mental and physical health rather than dispensing his hackneyed soundbites.
Oi, why'd you quote my post here and then remove it immediately? Say whatever it is you want to say with your chest.Well didnât he just not say that also he is still a renowned psychologist. Women tend to be more emotionally expressive and undergo greater emotional fluctuations, contrasting with men who tend to internalize their feelings. Suicide is perceived as an act of violence and a response to overwhelming despair, representing a form of self-harm. Despite these considerations, it is notable that 75% of divorces are initiated by women, reflecting their inclination to express and act upon their current emotional states.
Undoubtedly this is proven by reality. Historically and even In Islam Via our Prophet only men are fit for leadership, because women by nature are more emotional and more easily swayed by their feelings and compassion. These qualities have been created in women to enable them to carry out their most important duty, which is that of motherhood and nurturing children. Men, on the other hand, are not usually swayed by their emotions as women are. Their way is usually one of logic and deliberation, which form the essence of responsibility and leadership.
It is also clearly indicated by the hadith of Abu Bakrah who said that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) heard that the Persians had appointed the daughter of Chosroes as their queen, he said, âNo people who appoint a woman as their leader will ever prosper.â (Reported by al-Bukhari, 13/53).
That was an accident I already reacted to yours but tried to quote hers but yours got attached.Oi, why'd you quote my post here and then remove it immediately? Say whatever it is you want to say with your chest.
Actually it is men I know it's crazy and example is that women use their tears on a man to make him feel obligated to her idk I saw some science stuff behind woman's tears and it's effect on men and how men always fall for it.
That is Just dirty Manipulation tactic and can work on anyone, proof those women are just emotional children and proves the point even further.Actually it is men I know it's crazy and example is that women use their tears on a man to make him feel obligated to her idk I saw some science stuff behind woman's tears and it's effect on men and how men always fall for it.
The divorce comment isnât exactly accurate since before divorce women tend to seek outside help via the use of therapists and family intervention more so than men. The same studies that say women file for divorce more note that women donât do this on a whim and tend to try and find solutions for a broken marriage more so than men. The same studies also show that men have higher tendencies to engage in anti-social and marriage breaking actions more than women such as fidelity, abuse and drug issues overwhelming more so than women.Well didnât he just not say that also he is still a renowned psychologist. Women tend to be more emotionally expressive and undergo greater emotional fluctuations, contrasting with men who tend to internalize their feelings. Suicide is perceived as an act of violence and a response to overwhelming despair, representing a form of self-harm. Despite these considerations, it is notable that 75% of divorces are initiated by women, reflecting their inclination to express and act upon their current emotional states.
Undoubtedly this is proven by reality. Historically and even In Islam Via our Prophet only men are fit for leadership, because women by nature are more emotional and more easily swayed by their feelings and compassion. These qualities have been created in women to enable them to carry out their most important duty, which is that of motherhood and nurturing children. Men, on the other hand, are not usually swayed by their emotions as women are. Their way is usually one of logic and deliberation, which form the essence of responsibility and leadership.
It is also clearly indicated by the hadith of Abu Bakrah who said that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) heard that the Persians had appointed the daughter of Chosroes as their queen, he said, âNo people who appoint a woman as their leader will ever prosper.â (Reported by al-Bukhari, 13/53).
Don't try pressure me Malawah or else am cancelling my ticket to Australia
We're talking about 75 percent, don't you think that staggering percentage is Mostly the result of whims and emotionally motivated choices, and that it's all the man's fault and abuse? Then, the males in the western 75% had to be the worst of the worst. There is a reason why Only men are granted the authority to declare divorce three times in Islam.The divorce comment isnât exactly accurate since before divorce women tend to sick outside help via the use of therapist and family intervention more so than men. The same studies that say women file for divorce more note that women donât do this on a whim and tend to try and find solutions for a broken marriage more so than men. The same studies also show that men have higher tendencies to engage in anti-social and marriage breaking actions more then women such as fidelity, abuse and drug issue overwhelming more so than women.
My issue with your take is, if youâre going to use studies about women filing for divorce more, then you also need to acknowledge the other literatures with regards to marriage which also illustrates that women hardly file on a whim.
I see where youâre coming from, but if youâre going to add in studies, you also need to add in the full picture. You canât pick and choose and create your own argument.We're talking about 75 percent, don't you think that staggering percentage is Mostly the result of whims and emotionally motivated choices, and that it's all the man's fault and abuse? Then, the males in the western 75% had to be the worst of the worst. There is a reason why Only men are granted the authority to declare divorce three times in Islam.
What about men cheating more, abusing more? Are people meant to stay in dead in end marriages with cheating and abuse?There is simply no denying it â that staggering 75% statistic stands as a driving force behind the surge in single-parent households and fractured families.
Youâre using your own anecdotes. Weâre talking about the 75% women divorce more study.I've witnessed and personally experienced the rapidity with which women can resort to divorce, impulsively fuelled by emotions in the heat of the moment. It's disheartening to observe, even within my own family and extended circles, how swiftly these decisions are made, only for the realization to dawn later that it was perhaps unnecessary, often over trivial matters.
Yes but you have no proof what so ever that the 75% of those women who divorced are all due to abuse and cheating do you know how wild 75% is , According to recent data gathered from the General Social Survey, 20% of married men and 13% of married women admitted to having sex with someone other than their spouse.I see where youâre coming from, but if youâre going to add in studies, you also need to add in the full picture. You canât pick and choose and create your own argument.
The exact same studies show, men cheat more, abuse more, take part in risk taking in behaviors more and abuse drugs more.
The same studies also show women are much more likely to try and save the marriage more before divorcing via trying out therapy and family intervention.
Hence, how can we come to the conclusion that women do so because theyâre more emotional if youâre using the 75% study
What about men cheating more, abusing more? Are people meant to stay in dead in end marriages with cheating and abuse?
Youâre using your own anecdotes. Weâre talking about the 75% women divorce more study.
Letâs stick to statistics. Iâll send you these statistics as well btw. Just trying to find them.
I never said that is all due to abuse. Iâm saying that on the other end of the coin, more men cheat, abuse and cause more marriage breakdowns. Also, why is it that studies show more women seek solutions for bad marriages than men? Why is it that women are much more likely to try and get couples therapy?Yes but you have no proof what so ever that the 75% of those women who divorced are all due to abuse and cheating do you know how wild 75%is , According to recent data gathered from the General Social Survey, 20% of married men and 13% of married women admitted to having sex with someone other than their spouse.
the 75% is like saying Majority and way more then half of the men in the west Are abusers and cheaters so everyone is walking past a men in the street who abuse and cheat.
I've already refuted the Somalia statistics you speculated on, dismissing them as unreliable. In the Muslim world, even in the past, there were no instances of women being single mothers, and children did not experience broken single homes. This is a factual observation, given that women were reliant on men and didn't subscribe to liberal ideologies, leading them to either remarry or remain continuously married. Throughout history, there hasn't been any precedent of single-parent households producing children with criminal tendencies until now. The perplexity arises when considering that in times when men exclusively held the power to divorce, such issues were notably absent. Yet, with the advent of equal rights, we're now confronted with the perplexing statistic of 75%.I never said that is all due to abuse. Iâm saying that on the other end of the coin, more men cheat, abuse and cause more marriage breakdowns. Also, why is it that studies show more women seek solutions for bad marriages than men? Why is it that women are much more likely to try and get couples therapy?
Also, using high divorce rates as an example of women being xyz doesnât sit well with me since it feels a little bit hypocritical. Itâs funny how now divorce is whatâs causing the breakdown of the West when women can now divorce, but it was okay when the Islamic world in the past also had very high divorce rates in which men would marry and divorce when they wanted to. But thatâs fine right? During the Mamluk era, divorce was at an all high. In fact 1 in 4 Egyptian women would be divorced and this was during the time of full sharia.
Also, Somalia in the 1800s and early 1900s and had high divorce rates as well and even the locals as well as anthropologists noted that as well.
Iâve had enough of hypocritical men who seem pro divorce when itâs men marrying and divorcing women like theyâre objects.
They were in broken homes since their birth parents were no longer raising them in the same house. Youâre trying to change the goal post. So your point is, if women were filling for divorce but were able to remarry easily that makes it okay? Thatâs literally the only difference as in todays modern world, at least 40% end in divorce and in Muslim world around 30 to 40% also ended in divorce?I've already refuted the Somalia statistics you speculated on, dismissing them as unreliable. In the Muslim world, even in the past, there were no instances of women being single mothers, and children did not experience broken single homes.
Thatâs besides the point. It doesnât change that at least 30-40% of marriages ended in divorce and kids werenât raised in twoThis is a factual observation, given that women were reliant on men and didn't subscribe to liberal ideologies, leading them to either remarry or remain continuously married.
75% of marriages donât end in divorce. Only 40% do which is the pretty much the same as the Mamluk divorce rates. You donât even understand statistics. It isnât that 75% of marriages end in divorce itâs that 75% of the time itâs women who file. The 75% isnât about the overall divorce rate LOOOL .Throughout history, there hasn't been any precedent of single-parent households producing children with criminal tendencies until now. The perplexity arises when considering that in times when men exclusively held the power to divorce, such issues were notably absent. Yet, with the advent of equal rights, we're now confronted with the perplexing statistic of 75%.
It proves that women clearly on average arenât doing it on a whim since theyâre trying to find avenues to save the marriage. Bringing in family, therapy ect. Itâs women who are more proactive in saving a marriage and many file when everything as been exhausted.Most couples therapy is attended byâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ..COUPLES. Why would it be couple therapy if both did not agree to needing it, also it does not prove anything therapists cannot change their outcome nor what they already made up in their mind.
No so called study can even say with accuracy or even if it is possible that every couple therapy session it was a women who dragged her husband to come its just pure fallacy and bs.